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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Jctoronto on May 05, 2024, 10:04:59 AM

Title: Losing the whip.
Post by: Jctoronto on May 05, 2024, 10:04:59 AM
Yesterday's Ky. Derby, a whip went flying just before 1/16th pole in the battle for second between Forever Young and Sierra Leone. Alot of rough housing and grabbing.

Harness-wise...Would losing a whip somewhere along the mile journey have serious consequences to get home safely?(or is it wrapped so tightly around wrist u cant lose it.). Trying to remember last time a harness driver lost whip in-race. Does it happen more often than we think?
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: ferdinand the bull on May 05, 2024, 12:19:50 PM
Rideau Carleton had a whiplash night 8 horses took new marks
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 05, 2024, 05:48:36 PM
I'd like to know why they can't card a race or two each night with no whips allowed and see how the public responds in wagering each one. And be fair and not make it nw's ham sandwich either! Or give the trainer a say if they want or not for the driver to carry a whip in the race at entry and note it in the program. What would it hurt to try?

 11.wp
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Stan durbread on May 05, 2024, 08:50:59 PM
The bettors on here already cry every time a driver gets beat. Can imagine how much they would cry the race was set up if stuttered not whipping and slashing
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: diggin up dirt on May 06, 2024, 07:39:46 AM
back when i was involved in racing,i lost the whip at the top of the stretch on the front end.luckily the horse was tons the best and still one by open lengths.i can remember the phone call after the race from a drunk chris oakes giving me shit.
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: thedoctor on May 06, 2024, 08:08:30 AM
yep, i lost the whip halfway through the stretch while on the front end and got beat a head. Figures, as I would have gotten IT ALL had I won, but if I had a whip I might have gotten beat more (LOL!) 
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 06, 2024, 06:12:08 PM
yep, i lost the whip halfway through the stretch while on the front end and got beat a head. Figures, as I would have gotten IT ALL had I won, but if I had a whip I might have gotten beat more (LOL!)

Beating a horse is just telling them they are tired! Thats why you will not see a top driver brutalized one! They use their hands to keep them alive!
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: rainman2 on May 06, 2024, 06:19:40 PM
yep, i lost the whip halfway through the stretch while on the front end and got beat a head. Figures, as I would have gotten IT ALL had I won, but if I had a whip I might have gotten beat more (LOL!)

How did Stanley Dancer’s horses keep going forward when he was continually whipping hard in the day??
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Jctoronto on May 06, 2024, 07:56:02 PM
Whip, a ribshot, coming in on opponent, actually grabbing an opponent to stay ahead at wire for second..
Tyler Gaffalione has to pay the authorities a visit.

https://youtu.be/hKkEaZOKdVI?si=CvWrG4hqeAgKT73E
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Jazzman on May 06, 2024, 10:29:42 PM
best whip drop of all time billy o on nialator at meadowlands
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Mrpick5 on May 07, 2024, 01:06:00 AM
Beating a horse is just telling them they are tired! Thats why you will not see a top driver brutalized one! They use their hands to keep them alive!
Have you ever seen Mike LaChance keep one alive? The guy needed rotator cuff surgery every 6 months due to his absolute perverse pleasure of using the whip. Before just about all driving jurisdictions implemented whipping rules where you can’t raise your whip above your shoulder and each hand must have a hand hold at all times. Some guys like Trevor Henry in Canada looked like they were fly fishing for brook trout.
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: cornishcommish on May 07, 2024, 09:21:42 AM
Back in the 70s at Freehold,  Herve Filion was fined  $ 100 , for loaning his whip to another driver who had lost his whip

Sounds pretty tough......but he loaned his whip to another driver in the same race, at the top of the stretch.
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 07, 2024, 09:36:42 AM
 11.wp Whip the shit out of'em  11.wp
Title: Re: Losing the whip.
Post by: Meadow Ford on May 07, 2024, 10:20:17 AM
"Just The Facts Ma'am Just The Facts"
A sports coach needs a whistle.
A Family Medical Doctor needs a stethoscope.
A harness horse driver needs a whip.
A harness horse driver needs to whisper (not holler) to his horse in a language it can better understand.
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