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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MIKE CAMPBELL on April 28, 2024, 02:39:07 AM
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
says coming from a complete retarded asshole
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says coming from a complete retarded asshole
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
I agree, I said last fall on here when he raced at Lexington if Nancy could figure out that slight hitch he had he would be unbeatable
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says coming from a complete retarded asshole
The shit I just took this morning is smarter than you.
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
I think so too.
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
Nevele Pride won 57 out of 67
Mack Lobell won 71 out of 94
Karl wont even come close to half that amount of wins
your fast times mean nothing
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..."fastest times mean nothing"... Why is it when racing a $5K claimer or a world class stakes horse, if someone says, "my horse won at the Red Mile yesterday", the very next thing out of everyone's mouth is, "how fast did they go"?
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..."fastest times mean nothing"... Why is it when racing a $5K claimer or a world class stakes horse, if someone says, "my horse won at the Red Mile yesterday", the very next thing out of everyone's mouth is, "how fast did they go"?
the reason is an antiquated thinking, aging fan base who remember the races in the 70s insist they do
5k claimers go 1:48 at Lexington these days
was anyone obsessed with how fast Niatross or Albatross paced ?
and if time is such a revered stat--why still time them in 1/5 of a second and not 1/110 of a second like the tbreds did years ago?
aging, dying sport like pinochle
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I never realized pinochle was a sport. Learned something new today. Thanks.
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Great. More Nancy interviews in the winners circle.
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Don't want to interrupt the personal hatred and animosity here, but getting back to Karl...I watched this Q closely yesterday. The entire crop has a lot of catching up to do to get up to where this colt is. Sure, it's May 1, but he is so far ahead of the rest in where he is at and what he's doing -- and he makes it look easy. Whew. If yesterday's qualifier is his best, and this is where he stays, he still might be the best. He just makes a 26 and change quarter look easy, does it so effortless, etc. Even his third quarter where he opened up, he simply does what he does in what seems to be little to no effort. The road to the Hambo always has horses turning the corner quickly, coming on from the middle of the pack, and so on. This time, any of them, have a long way to go.
Also, Linda Toscano's horse It's My Show also won his Q in 1:49 and 3.
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Does anyone look at the equipment he wears? The driving bit is usually on horses that lock on a line. I wish Karl nothing but good luck,but that bit is a cause of concern for me.
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to be clear i have a feeling nacny didnt get rid of that hitch in his gait but jimy might of
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The burst of insane speed he showed half way down the lane to leave TCI in his wake was unbelievable and he still have about 5 gears.
If he stays healthy he could be the best ever like Mike says.
He's got a long way to go but TCI looked like a maiden against him. TCI should come back better as well so it will be interesting watching them compete.
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He may well turn out to be one of the greatest ever, but a 1:52 qualifier in April made no sense. We will see how long he can survive moronic handling like that.
Don't want to interrupt the personal hatred and animosity here, but getting back to Karl...I watched this Q closely yesterday. The entire crop has a lot of catching up to do to get up to where this colt is. Sure, it's May 1, but he is so far ahead of the rest in where he is at and what he's doing -- and he makes it look easy. Whew. If yesterday's qualifier is his best, and this is where he stays, he still might be the best. He just makes a 26 and change quarter look easy, does it so effortless, etc. Even his third quarter where he opened up, he simply does what he does in what seems to be little to no effort. The road to the Hambo always has horses turning the corner quickly, coming on from the middle of the pack, and so on. This time, any of them, have a long way to go.
Also, Linda Toscano's horse It's My Show also won his Q in 1:49 and 3.
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He won't even be close to being the greatest. He's lame and Yannick can't drive him. He's a passenger. He can't even follow with the horse because he's not manageable. My guess is he is lame behind and running from the pain. Time will tell but it seems way to early to be going that fast.
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Looked manageable to me ; 29.3 58.0 (28.2) 1:25.3 (27.3) 1:52.1 (26.3) Granted he was on the engine doing it his way. But a first half in .58 and home in 54.1 in hand is not the work of a horse that can't be driven and is lame. But, you may know something I don't.
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You two have absolutely opposite posts but damn one of you are right and I could go with either. I'm going with the latter since 26.3 and his connections make it very hard to believe this horse is out of control or ever going to be tired.
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No matter how good or bad he is, come Hambo day Yannick will get him beat…
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For those of you that say he blew right by TCI. You gotta admit TCI wasn’t right that day. Maybe sick or maybe just tired frustrated m a long season of shipping and racing all over NA. Karl was managed carefully last year. Maybe by plan or maybe because there is something to that hitch behind. We will see. This is a new strategy by Takter qualifying this early on one he thinks is Hambo quality
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For those of you that say he blew right by TCI. You gotta admit TCI wasn’t right that day. Maybe sick or maybe just tired frustrated m a long season of shipping and racing all over NA. Karl was managed carefully last year. Maybe by plan or maybe because there is something to that hitch behind. We will see. This is a new strategy by Takter qualifying this early on one he thinks is Hambo quality
Shouldn’t it be what SHE thinks?
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What she says is what he thinks !!!
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Anyone who doesn't think Jimmy still runs the show is crazy. Maybe he is ready early and there trying to do a Walner and blast him a hige mile then he mysteriously has broken down and never races in Hambo? Can't lose if you don't race. Something is not right with him. He was hitchy last yr and he's not right this yr. Look at how he is rigged and you will see. When they trained him at Meadowlands early this yr before Qua he couldn't stay flat. Known FACT that everyone seen when he galloped the entire mile.
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hmm, interesting
thanks for the update behind the scenes
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Shouldn’t it be what SHE thinks?
Nope. Nancy handles the day to day operations but Jimmy is still calling the shots. Not even going with the conspiracy theories about Jimmy retiring, if you got access to someone that was that successful you use them to your full advantage.
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
Nice Pony for sure!
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I wouldn’t throw him out of the barn. But he got a lot to prove before I’ll say he is greatest of all time
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I wouldn’t throw him out of the barn. But he got a lot to prove before I’ll say he is greatest of all time
Agree. But he looks wicked when they set him free. He also looks as if he loves to go.
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Nice Pony for sure!
tmbz1 tmbz1
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Lot of good points made here.
I may eat my words at the end of the year, but IMO Karl is in another zip code talent-wise than the rest of the 3yos we've seen this year, as well as the 2yos he went up against last year. No hate on TCI, who is a really nice horse, but I would be surprised if he is much better this year. They raced the shit out of that horse last year. They're not machines (though if someone can turn one into a robot, it's the Burkes).
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yes time will tell
tci , we will see, raced hard at 2 and burke takes the money when its there and worries about next year next year
karl looks very impressive, you really do need to be much the best if you plan on winning on the front every week, but it has been done before so we shall see
lets hope they both stay healthy and have some competitive races
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Horrible call by the judges last year at the Red Mile.
Karl held off TCI and the judges blew it. I believe it was corruption
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Karl will end up being known as the greatest trotter ever.
He is powerful; however a long way to go to put up the race career that Muscle Hill obtained and the raw talent that Walner showed (Stanley Dancer jogburger in 1:50.2 with last 3/4 in 1:22.4!)
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Listen, this has to be a discussion of how he looked training down all winter -- if you had the opportunity to see him -- and it has nothing to do with being on the GOAT list. Come on, unless he doesn't come back at all, why go into the GOAT discussion. He hasn't done anywhere near enough to enter into that discussion. Absent the internet and armchair trainers here, I saw him train over the winter a few times, when they brought him to the Meadowlands, and more, his qualifier. He looked good, very good! I am in the bet against camp, but he still looked very good, LOL.
I have no idea how many starts they planned on before the Hambo, but the calendar does seem like they are early to the party. I wouldn't question Takter on this. By design or little to no choice, who knows. But next time you see either Jimmy or Nancy----ask them. I am sure some reporter will.
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Latest interview with Nancy and Wendy about Karl just released an hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jzj51XngPU