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Title: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: JL52 on February 26, 2024, 10:58:10 AM
Hmmm, questionable exacta payoff. 6-1 beats 40-1, first and second throughout, exacta pays only $ 106.00? Place horse driven by a trainer who rarely drives.  And, no, I didn’t bet the race.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Kirbys Ace on February 26, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
Sounds like you should of!
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Bitter Truth on February 26, 2024, 11:06:05 AM
 I thought it might have been for $1, it wasn't but it still would have been low. I'm with you, pretty shady. Some will say low pool but still, c'mon man.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Brown jug on February 26, 2024, 11:21:53 AM
they are racing at pocono ??
huh, who knew??
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: dinkadoo on February 26, 2024, 11:36:41 AM
they are racing at pocono ??
huh, who knew??
funny - i thought the same thing....

the number came back was 2-1,,,, lot of people bet numbers.  winner was 3rd choice from the two hole -- probably alot of people had the place horse since he had the rail and thru him on ticket.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: JL52 on February 26, 2024, 12:21:27 PM
funny - i thought the same thing....

the number came back was 2-1,,,, lot of people bet numbers.  winner was 3rd choice from the two hole -- probably alot of people had the place horse since he had the rail and thru him on ticket.
Good analysis. A more sinister explanation would be that the folks who are given the privilege of betting just after the race starts, saw who was leaving, and punched as many tickets as they could.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: theokodjak26 on February 26, 2024, 12:25:12 PM
I know PD has some shady stuff going on especially in the area of chemistry. But as was just pointed out a 1-2 box in harness racing will always return less than other combinations. Then there’s a pool of $11,800 before the take out. Not very much, about $9,450 net. Small pools, inside posts probably explains the low payout versus thinking Chris Temming was involved in some kind of fix with all the other drivers going along. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Parked on February 26, 2024, 01:00:18 PM
they are racing at pocono ??
huh, who knew??

No, just going around the track trying to  finish where they should.   
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: panhunter on February 26, 2024, 07:20:40 PM
I looked at the race thinking no money in the pool, but there was almost 12,000 so that's not bad, really suspect? Las year I had a pentafecta with a 40.00 horse on top that paid 207.00.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: harnessplop on February 27, 2024, 01:09:18 AM
Kakaley horse was much the best..shipper from Meadowlands. Fav was dead...maybe he wasnatiffed..doub t it.106.00 exacta isn't real short..as other have said..this isn't 6  8 exacta
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on February 27, 2024, 01:55:17 AM
Hmmm, questionable exacta payoff. 6-1 beats 40-1, first and second throughout, exacta pays only $ 106.00? Place horse driven by a trainer who rarely drives.  And, no, I didn’t bet the race.

Exacta pool only had $105 in it so price was an overlay.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on February 27, 2024, 02:04:34 AM
I know PD has some shady stuff going on especially in the area of chemistry. But as was just pointed out a 1-2 box in harness racing will always return less than other combinations. Then there’s a pool of $11,800 before the take out. Not very much, about $9,450 net. Small pools, inside posts probably explains the low payout versus thinking Chris Temming was involved in some kind of fix with all the other drivers going along. Just my opinion.

5900 $2 exacta wagers, approximately 85 winning tickets, More than there should have been but I was at Borgata Saturday and some jerk off was betting $100 3 horse boxes on longshots on just about every track running so he might have caught a piece of that. Dude probably wagered 20k in a few hours and I don't think he or his buddies knew anything about horse racing.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: wiseowl on February 27, 2024, 11:47:43 AM
They bet nothing there why would you care what it pays out of your control.
Title: Re: Pocono 9th race Saturday
Post by: Newt Lobell on February 27, 2024, 02:08:28 PM
funny - i thought the same thing....

the number came back was 2-1,,,, lot of people bet numbers.  winner was 3rd choice from the two hole -- probably alot of people had the place horse since he had the rail and thru him on ticket.

With the small pools and the 2-1 number, I’m of the opinion that it was people using the rail horse in the exacta. If I played the winner, I would have used the 1 for second.

I’m sure that 1-2, 2-1 are usually underlays in harness racing.
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