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Title: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: 2beblunt on February 19, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-driver-joe-bongiorno-eyeing-move-buckeye-state?fbclid=IwAR3hTavjOql4TzIpWLMxCz1hPdUiPa3nPdLJIPynVbL_FkpNXGCATh-RfdU
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 19, 2024, 01:14:04 PM
Actually a good move for Joe. Gets out from under the family shadow, and make his own destiny.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on February 19, 2024, 05:57:15 PM
Because the cost of living is lower?  The BonBon's live in Alpine if I'm not mistaken so somebody"s got some cash in that family
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Newt Lobell on February 19, 2024, 06:09:18 PM
Is it possible he was asked to leave Yonkers?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 19, 2024, 06:48:54 PM
Is it possible he was asked to leave Yonkers?

Or warned of things yet to come.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Dels Finest on February 19, 2024, 07:09:41 PM
Great move! Definitely a top 5 at all 3 southern tracks
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: stanetelman on February 19, 2024, 07:16:19 PM
"I do think I'll be able to fit in," said Bongiorno.
"I'm hoping that I can pick up some horses for the Ohio Sires Stakes," said Bongiorno. "I know Ron [Burke] has his regular guys, but there are lots of times he has most of the horses in a race."
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Bitter Truth on February 19, 2024, 07:45:07 PM
I follow those tracks. Frustrating that seldom do they hang anyone. Will Joey be afforded those same holes? Colony can't match Meadowlands obviously [when they are actually there] but a number of capable drivers. Page, B Miller, Noble, Sutton, Widger, three Smiths [trevor, Tyler, Jeremy] Kaufmann, Both Hanners, Trace Tetrick [for now] Wrenn and Merriman [at times] I look for him to hold his own but not a huge impact. He could be right about Burke and O.S.S. races though. Will he go to any fairs? Don't laugh. As good of purses as Monticello, Freehold often times.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Parked on February 19, 2024, 08:05:25 PM
Certainly not a step up.  Hard to understand.  Is he taking horses ? Who will Bob. Errrrr Jen get to drive. Will the horses race better without all the jumping around in the bike.  Who will the next beard be ?    In time we will know..
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on February 19, 2024, 08:25:46 PM
Like him or not, think he's a good driver or not...if Joe believed in himself, which he obviously does...AND he thought, felt, or was concerned, that something might, could possibly, even if it were a remote possibility, something could go down, with his sister, or his dad, or person or persons related (meaning involved, not familial)...do you think he wants to risk or potentially lose an entire career as a catch-driver...over that?

Joe has seen the way Scotty Zeron has come up and how he built a career, how and why he came to the Meadowlands. He's seen the way Doug McNair has come up and how his career has developed while staying in Ontario (forget about any comparison between Doug's father and Joe's father! Keith Waples bought yearlings and gave them to Gregg! Go wait for the day Keith Waples, or John Campbell for that matter, gives horses to Bob Bongiorno!). Doug is getting calls from American trainers who ship north of the border,, he's driving O'Brien Award winners, and not for his dad (one being an American trainer too!), and he's getting some top, grand-circuit mounts. Both these guys have top trainers giving them business. Not their own, not their sister, not somebody connected to their dad, and so on.

If nothing happens, so be it. OH, Indiana, PA, whatever. Doesn't matter. It won't be permanent. But leaving, may be the smartest thing he's ever done. 
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 19, 2024, 08:28:36 PM
As I already indicated Its a good move for Joe B. maybe not the rest of the family.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Parked on February 19, 2024, 09:06:39 PM
Joe will be chasing Scotty for the rest of his career and never come close to acquiring Scottys ability. 
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: LUCPARK on February 19, 2024, 09:11:00 PM
East coast fbi sweep coming again


In about eight months

Smart business move

The kid is smarter than he gets credit for

Big news coming out of Yonkers in late spring

Will spell trouble. For most of those red hot barns

Phones have been tapped.  Cameras everywhere unsuspected

Matter of time

Kid did the move.  Before the move  tmbz1

He’s going to do well in Ohio.  Three tracks yr round purses are great
Plus jug week

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Chips N Salsa on February 19, 2024, 09:36:30 PM
East coast fbi sweep coming again


In about eight months

Smart business move

The kid is smarter than he gets credit for

Big news coming out of Yonkers in late spring

Will spell trouble. For most of those red hot barns

Phones have been tapped.  Cameras everywhere unsuspected

Matter of time

Kid did the move.  Before the move  tmbz1

He’s going to do well in Ohio.  Three tracks yr round purses are great
Plus jug week

 tmbz1

He's no where close to the talent Zeron has and never will.  Joe has no brains and no class.  He will fit in with the Ohio hillbillies well.  Once he get's his ass beat for mouthing off he will come home with his head tucked.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: hoosierboy on February 19, 2024, 10:06:46 PM
I don’t see Joe getting quality unless the regulars out of town.  The same trainers have been using the same drivers for years.  Will Joe get drives yes will he get quality drives I don’t think so
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: harnessplop on February 19, 2024, 10:10:39 PM
Well if he was warned. He still is driving tonight.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Hay 4 sail on February 19, 2024, 10:13:36 PM
I don’t see Joe getting quality unless the regulars out of town.  The same trainers have been using the same drivers for years.  Will Joe get drives yes will he get quality drives I don’t think so
   I disagree Joe will get quality stock to drive. My guess Virgil's next full time driver. He has been using everybody lately.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: hoosierboy on February 20, 2024, 01:56:45 AM
   I disagree Joe will get quality stock to drive. My guess Virgil's next full time driver. He has been using everybody lately.

No way he is Virgil’s next full time driver in OH.  He never drove for him out east
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: The Exporter on February 20, 2024, 05:29:56 AM
It is a pretty simple formula. The more you win, the more drives you get. Like, dislike, big mouth, jerkoff, none of that matters.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Ramnap on February 20, 2024, 07:12:19 AM
I don’t see Joe getting quality unless the regulars out of town.  The same trainers have been using the same drivers for years.  Will Joe get drives yes will he get quality drives I don’t think so

Joe is a carbon copy of Hunter Myers, just what the driving colony needs another non intelligent slasher. I hear Joe can read and write though.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Stan durbread on February 20, 2024, 07:51:32 AM
Does this mean Joe & Jenn are getting divorced?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: The Exporter on February 20, 2024, 08:56:21 AM
Will they need to file in West Virginia?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: caddy on February 20, 2024, 09:08:49 AM
Will Joey be afforded those same holes? a number of capable drivers. Page, B Miller, Noble, Sutton, Widger, three Smiths [trevor, Tyler, Jeremy] Kaufmann, Both Hanners, Trace Tetrick [for now] Wrenn and Merriman [at times] I look for him to hold his own but not a huge impact.

The Ohio tracks have done fine w/ the longtime driving group.  Joe spouts out like he's just gonna drop in and be welcomed.  Admittedly, the owners and trainers will switch to him if he's as good as advertised.  But - smart guy would can the brash trash and show some humility.  Hard to imagine that Page, J. Smith, Ty Smith, Noble, Miller, Tetrick et al are worried about losing their seat.   BUT! the top winning drivers show little loyalty, so- could be he forces some of the current colony fellas to ally w/ some stables - other than Burke. 
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Parked on February 20, 2024, 09:50:20 AM
He will probably get most of Burke horses to drive ..
When does this relocation happen ?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: dinkadoo on February 20, 2024, 10:03:33 AM
he did alright in his short stint at Northfield a few years ago..... But then his driving style fits a Northfield.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: 7minuteAbz on February 20, 2024, 10:38:59 AM
The heat was getting intense, that's why this is happening.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: bello on February 20, 2024, 10:42:57 AM
He will probably get most of Burke horses to drive ..
When does this relocation happen ?
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Burke would be nuts to give Bongiorno first call over CHris Page ay the 5/8 ovals. Nor over Wrenn and the Meadows ( pa) . I do see him getting second call as Burke runs mant uncoupled entries all over the place.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: seen2much on February 20, 2024, 03:22:03 PM
This move does seem odd. It's possible there is more to come. I see many think that.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: onabrake on February 20, 2024, 03:30:17 PM
He may be a monkey in the bike far too much, but he is smart enough to know that there may be far more " trouble" ahead for Jen Jen and Daddy and a smart move would be to get far far away from said "trouble". Minus him doing all the work and then depending upon juice shipments only, Jen Jen is in really deep water considering she has no clue the head end from the hind end. Now one knows why mommy and daddy are not happy he's hitting the road.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: jupiter on February 20, 2024, 03:41:02 PM
Get a few Commissions away from NJ, tell the family to loose his number. Though the FBI probably have enough dirt, seems like he might be on to this. idea trying to beat the heat.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: SwankToliverA on February 20, 2024, 04:03:57 PM
He will probably get most of Burke horses to drive ..
When does this relocation happen ?

Supposed to be in March
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: hoosierboy on February 20, 2024, 04:23:05 PM
He will probably get most of Burke horses to drive ..
When does this relocation happen ?

Page is Burkes go to in Ohio.  Page won’t lose that account to Joey b
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: hoosierboy on February 20, 2024, 04:29:56 PM
He may be a monkey in the bike far too much, but he is smart enough to know that there may be far more " trouble" ahead for Jen Jen and Daddy and a smart move would be to get far far away from said "trouble". Minus him doing all the work and then depending upon juice shipments only, Jen Jen is in really deep water considering she has no clue the head end from the hind end. Now one knows why mommy and daddy are not happy he's hitting the road.


If the fbi is truley doing another sting and joe is a part of it leaving doesn’t mean shit the will March right into scioto and arrest him just like they could in Yonkers
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: SDST2009 on February 20, 2024, 06:22:18 PM
He may be a monkey in the bike far too much, but he is smart enough to know that there may be far more " trouble" ahead for Jen Jen and Daddy and a smart move would be to get far far away from said "trouble". Minus him doing all the work and then depending upon juice shipments only, Jen Jen is in really deep water considering she has no clue the head end from the hind end. Now one knows why mommy and daddy are not happy he's hitting the road.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: harnessplop on February 20, 2024, 06:50:43 PM
Yonkers was gonna,ask him to leave? Cmon...per wins with 1 to9 2 to 3x night amd is staying cmon man
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: 7minuteAbz on February 20, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
Joe is a carbon copy of Hunter Myers, just what the driving colony needs another non intelligent slasher. I hear Joe can read and write though.

Joe raced at Yonkers against Jason and Brennan tooth and nail every night, don't underestimate him.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 20, 2024, 07:21:24 PM
He can float back and forth from MV to Northfield etc. Virgil and others will use him
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: LUCPARK on February 20, 2024, 09:10:14 PM
He comes to Hoosierpark he will do great also
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on February 20, 2024, 09:28:35 PM
Getting out of the training business before he winds up with Surick.  Oh that's right Jen was the trainer ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on February 20, 2024, 09:30:17 PM
Is it possible he was asked to leave Yonkers?

By who???  Yonkers doesn't care who cheats there.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 20, 2024, 10:28:11 PM
Getting out of the training business before he winds up with Surick.  Oh that's right Jen was the trainer ngc3  ngc3  ngc3

I always thought Jenn looked great with nut dripping from her chin  11.tb, or a load blown all over her ass and back  :1, But who am I to choose just one image? Always gave good head in the parking lot across from the American Hotel Freehold.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: SeattleSlew on February 20, 2024, 10:59:39 PM
I always thought Jenn looked great with nut dripping from her chin  11.tb, or a load blown all over her ass and back  :1, But who am I to choose just one image? Always gave good head in the parking lot across from the American Hotel Freehold.

Gheez, you just ruined my appetite for the great Mac & Cheese they had there.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Mailbox Money on February 20, 2024, 11:10:06 PM
Page is Burkes go to in Ohio.  Page won’t lose that account to Joey b
No shit Sherlock! Have you ever seen Burke have more than one horse in the Stake races? If so I will bet that R.B.would rather use Joey instead of the 10th best guy in that circuit! 73cv.2
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Mazola on February 20, 2024, 11:25:19 PM
Gheez, you just ruined my appetite for the great Mac & Cheese they had there.
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 21, 2024, 09:14:14 AM
Ohio gives him the opportunity to race KY as well. Quite a few going there after Florida to set up shop rather than the North East.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Calhoun on February 21, 2024, 09:32:15 AM
Also allows him to get away from the NY/NJ scene which has to be a nice change.  All that same old coked-out Italian and Hebrew cooze has to be a bore.

Time to slay some Midwestern pussy.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: The Exporter on February 21, 2024, 09:43:59 AM
Wait until he finds out Fazoli's is the best Italian food in the Midwest. Or when he goes to a Chinese joint and the blond hair blue eyed young girl says, "how 'yall doing". Joey will come home quicker than Christ leaving the Jews.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: makingit on February 21, 2024, 12:28:36 PM
Is Nicole going with him ?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Open bridle on February 21, 2024, 12:45:15 PM
As of now I can see only three I would consider above him of the regular drivers at MVG. Miller, Noble and Page. Might change my mind  after he starts driving there.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Chips N Salsa on February 21, 2024, 12:56:19 PM
As of now I can see only three I would consider above him of the regular drivers at MVG. Miller, Noble and Page. Might change my mind  after he starts driving there.

He will get destroyed there after he runs his mouth like the little pecker wood he is.  He won't be in top 5
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Open bridle on February 21, 2024, 02:52:07 PM
He will get destroyed there after he runs his mouth like the little pecker wood he is.  He won't be in top 5
Don't really follow him much, but sounds like how Sutton use to be. He was the main driver for Virgil Morgan until he kept on getting in trouble with his mouth. He went from the top to the bottom half of drivers after Morgan dumped him.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on February 21, 2024, 03:10:02 PM
He will fit in just fine out here . He was batting 325 at Northfield before he won his 1000th race he is way better now and his aggressive style fits well out here . His sister should stay out east with sears and the swingers.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 21, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
Also allows him to get away from the NY/NJ scene which has to be a nice change.  All that same old coked-out Italian and Hebrew cooze has to be a bore.

Time to slay some Midwestern pussy.

I cant argue with that! a few cornfed babes can change a man's perspective. ngc3
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 21, 2024, 07:03:14 PM
Most likely. Its his style. ngc3
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 21, 2024, 07:12:48 PM
Gheez, you just ruined my appetite for the great Mac & Cheese they had there.

Man that ass looked with a load on it.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: ferdinand the bull on February 26, 2024, 02:48:26 AM
Joey B and Simon Allard owe their driving careers to peds , neither had the talent to get where they are if it weren't for jumping on juiced up ponies
Title: Re: Bye Bye Joe Bon
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 26, 2024, 10:03:01 AM
Dosent matter Jenns ass is hot when the thong comes off.
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