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Title: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shamrock stable on January 23, 2024, 09:43:01 PM
What do you think?
Harmer bike
Ufo
Spyder
Blackjack
Cone
Cheetah
What do guys use most now a days?
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Wild bull on January 23, 2024, 09:47:26 PM
By far the 🐆🐆🐆🐆
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Bitter Truth on January 23, 2024, 09:55:37 PM
I would defer to Lance for his expertise but how about the single shaft? ngc3
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Mailbox Money on January 23, 2024, 11:33:55 PM
Cheetah! And the Bike Bike with the stirrups directly behind the tail and the big cotterpin holding it on! This particular one was the root cause for the lay back style of driving! tmbz1
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: hoosierboy on January 24, 2024, 02:13:48 AM
Cheeta
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Hay 4 sail on January 24, 2024, 04:58:40 AM
  Why would we give a shit about a race bike? We would be like putting tire shine on a Prius
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Lance on January 24, 2024, 06:43:03 AM
I would defer to Lance for his expertise but how about the single shaft? ngc3
I always thought having two shafts was better than one.  You know…..for safety.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shamrock stable on January 24, 2024, 07:17:19 AM
Race bikes and wheels make a huge difference. Take your prius. I'll take the Cheetah. Seems like every bike  after the blackjack was based off of it. Donyoubthinkbguys would use the Cheetah if it were allowed?
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Lance on January 24, 2024, 07:50:32 AM
I remember the old Naussa Turf bike were a big innovation.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: old guy on January 24, 2024, 09:29:26 AM
Houghton and Jerald were popular when I was a pup. Then Wilform came along with the underslung wheels. I think Joe O'brien was involved with them. all of the previously mentioned bikes evolved over the years. I don't recall anyone mentioning the Tel-Star which I think was a well made sulky that can be considered closer to "old school" bikes and didn't encourage the ridiculous lean of today's drivers.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: firhill on January 24, 2024, 09:43:30 AM
Original Big Wheel
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: 7minuteAbz on January 24, 2024, 09:49:14 AM
The Equalizer was ahead of its time, long ago.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Way to go on January 24, 2024, 10:10:40 AM
The Chicago...The underslung....mid 70s
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Gaagoots on January 24, 2024, 10:34:50 AM
Cheetah

I wonder if Steve Wheels is still around.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: hoosierboy on January 24, 2024, 01:59:22 PM
Race bikes and wheels make a huge difference. Take your prius. I'll take the Cheetah. Seems like every bike  after the blackjack was based off of it. Donyoubthinkbguys would use the Cheetah if it were allowed?

The year cheeta was outlawed life sign won jug hitched to it.  Every horse in race was actually hitched to one
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shamrock stable on January 24, 2024, 02:05:20 PM
you had to have a cheetah. you were at a disadvantage if you didnt, then campbell fucked it up for everyone.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Mailbox Money on January 24, 2024, 02:13:00 PM
The Chicago...The underslung....mid 70s
Didn't Joe King come out with a "Underslung" also or was he from Chi-town?
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Jazzman on January 24, 2024, 02:16:33 PM
love the old tel stars still use them to train
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: jupiter on January 24, 2024, 03:04:05 PM
The King was first, I think then the Nassau. Not to far apart, if ya didn't have one you weren't going anywhere. The Cheetah was the fastest bike ever, rattled so much it scared the hell out of them. great for the boot. Love to see one on any of the good 3 yr olds and see what they'd do, with Steve's Wheels.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: ryansdad on January 24, 2024, 03:25:03 PM
     Curt Watson Cheetah was was greatest face bike by far
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shotgunner on January 24, 2024, 03:28:48 PM
The cheetah is probably the fastest bike of all time. UFO is probably the best going right now but a cheetah would still probably be faster.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Lance on January 24, 2024, 04:23:40 PM
It was a big move going to a metal bike....wood shafts used to get soft and warp...and nobody likes that.  Metal shafts stay hard for ever....and when you are staring at a big butt you want to make sure everything is hard.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shamrock stable on January 24, 2024, 05:00:03 PM
wasnt stein the guy behind the cheetah and the black jack?
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on January 24, 2024, 05:06:34 PM
Curt Watson
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Meadow Ford on January 24, 2024, 09:36:14 PM
IMHO
The Rolls-Royce of race bikes was The Houghton Faber circa Bret Hanover/ Frank Ervin.
All wood shafts, arch, and forks.
Put a padded cushion on the rattan seat and it was the most comfordable ride on the track. It just seemed to ride with you like a giant shock absorber.
The Houghton Faber went out of favor when Stanley Dancer started exclusively using the Jeralds with the wood shafts, and metal arch.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Harness Stats on January 24, 2024, 09:39:36 PM
It was a big move going to a metal bike....wood shafts used to get soft and warp...and nobody likes that.  Metal shafts stay hard for ever....and when you are staring at a big butt you want to make sure everything is hard.
The most appropriate thing you ever wrote.  ;D  tmbz1
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: kantseeback on January 24, 2024, 10:07:08 PM
Wasn't there a bike called the Watson around the time of the cheetah. Back in the early 90's a friend I had at YR told me some drivers at the Meadows were using a bike called the Watson.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: kantseeback on January 24, 2024, 10:14:29 PM
It was a big move going to a metal bike....wood shafts used to get soft and warp...and nobody likes that.  Metal shafts stay hard for ever....and when you are staring at a big butt you want to make sure everything is hard.
Way back in the day I saw one of those wooden shaft bikes get involved in a racing accident, a horse ran 2 laps around the track with no driver and kicked one of those bikes to smithereens, splintered wood everywhere.
I saw it happen live at Monticello.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: shamrock stable on January 24, 2024, 11:31:00 PM
There was a company called super sulky that was the Cheetah. Watson and Stein must of been partners. They really kinda got screwed.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: jupiter on January 25, 2024, 11:16:32 AM
How about the carbon fiber thing Campbell liked, didn't last long. When the Blackjack came out it was the had to have bike.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: Generation XYZ on January 25, 2024, 12:11:57 PM
UFO makes a solid product.
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: ryansdad on January 25, 2024, 02:45:04 PM
     ufo is another watson bike he has invented some of the greatest race bikes
Title: Re: Best race Bike Ever
Post by: RockingStretchDrive on February 07, 2024, 06:25:32 PM
Cheetah 🐆 fastest bike made
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