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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Kirbys Ace on January 19, 2024, 12:49:52 PM
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NEILL, DREW D DELAWARE, OH YOB 1999
Nfld on 12/28/2023 FINED: $500
DRIVING - 5 DAYS, 1/22/2024 THRU 1/26/2024
While driving #3 Bombay Bobby in race 3 on 12/28/23 he engaged in a speed duel in the
first half and failed to take advantage of racing opportunities that may have helped his horse
obtain a winning performance. His action was against the best interest of racing. Mr. Neill had
a hearing with the judges on 1/1/24. He is hereby fined $1000 and suspended from driving for
10 days. The penalty will be reduced to a fine of $500 and 5 days driving suspension if not
appealed. O.S.R.C.-3769-12-26(A)(10) 17-11 The fine must be paid by 1/21/24
So did the other driver get a fine as well or was this a fine for rolling one down the road.
1st time in 40 years, I have seen this fine!
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NEILL, DREW D DELAWARE, OH YOB 1999
Nfld on 12/28/2023 FINED: $500
DRIVING - 5 DAYS, 1/22/2024 THRU 1/26/2024
While driving #3 Bombay Bobby in race 3 on 12/28/23 he engaged in a speed duel in the
first half and failed to take advantage of racing opportunities that may have helped his horse
obtain a winning performance. His action was against the best interest of racing. Mr. Neill had
a hearing with the judges on 1/1/24. He is hereby fined $1000 and suspended from driving for
10 days. The penalty will be reduced to a fine of $500 and 5 days driving suspension if not
appealed. O.S.R.C.-3769-12-26(A)(10) 17-11 The fine must be paid by 1/21/24
So did the other driver get a fine as well or was this a fine for rolling one down the road.
1st time in 40 years, I have seen this fine!
That’s such BS. Yeah, he had a hole to drop in behind #1, the leader, but #1 was 40-1!
#1 should have let him go by and sit the pocket at 40-1.
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This is bullshit. How does the driver of the 1 not get days?
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The rail horse has no obligation to let the favorite by, though relinquishing to sit the pocket may have been the right thing to do. The penalty to Neil should reflect excessive use of the whip. He was punishing the horse for his poor decisions.
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Can someone please post a chart of this race so we can read it and judge for ourselves!
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RD RACE
Condition: 2023 CONDITIONED MINI SERIES HORSES & GELDINGS NON WINNERS $750 PER START IN 2023 (THROUGH 12/15). 1ST LEG - 2ND DIVISION
Gait: Pace Purse: $6,500 Class: 750PSLC Dis: 1 Mile Track Cond: SY Temp-Allow: 43-2 Off Time: 6:52 PM
HN HORSE MEDS PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 STR FIN TIME LAST Q ODDS DRIVER
7 DOUG'S JAXX 7 4-7 4o-3Q 3oo-2T 2-1T 1-1Q 1:58.3 30.4 2.80 Da Lake
5 U R DRIVINGME NUTZ L 5 7-14H 7-7 4o-3T 3-2H 2-1Q 1:58.4 30.4 8.00 Ju Irvine
9 VICTORY MOVE L [9 3-5 3o-1H 1oo-2H 1-1T 3-1Q 1:58.4 31.3 6.40 Jo Ciocca Jr. Jo Ciocca Jr.
6 TSM BATMAN 6 8-17 8-12 7o-6 6-9 4-5T 1:59.4 31.2 59.30 Th Tharps Jr. Ro Krenitsky Jr
2 ASCARYONE HANOVER L 2 5-9 5-5H 8-6Q 5-8T 5-6H 1:59.4 31.2 28.80 Lu Ebersole De Alexander
4 AUTHENTIC HANOVER L 4 6-12 6o-6 6oo-5 7-10 6-8H 2:00.1 32.0 3.00 Ku Sugg
3 BOMBAY BOBBY L 3 2o-NS 1o-T 2o-2H 4-7H 7-10Q 2:00.3 33.0 *1.50 Dr Neill
1 SAMMY SAID L 1 1-NS 2-T 5-4 8-12H 8-16H 2:01.4 33.4 40.90 Ti Deaton
Time-27.0; 56.2; 1:27.1; 1:58.3
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Absolutely absurd. In what rule book does it say you can't have a "speed duel" Never heard of such a thing and have seen hundreds if not thousands of those.
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Some one got their money run over ngc3
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Not just someone lost their money but someone who is in the booth lost money! ngc3
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That has happened a million times in harness racing. What a bunch of bullshit. Merriman has done the same thing hundreds of times and lost on the favorite. He thinks the others owe him the front and he's never been fined for it. So why now judges?
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Reminds me of the front end scorching that Grismore used to into at Nfld years ago!
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I've watched over 75,000 races (conservative estimate) and saw this hundreds of times. No fines I'm aware of. Once the gate opens, anything can happen. Neill had every right to expect the 40-1 to yield and take the pocket behind the chalk. He didn't. Shit happens. Crazy ass ruling which not only defies all logic, it seriously calls into question the integrity of the judges.
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The only crazy is that any track anywhere would let Mr. Cattleprod through the gate.
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This is a first for me
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The guy on the 40-1 from the rail should get something. Him yielding to a pocket trip wouldn't have been in his horse's best interest? No one should've been fined. Someone with some pull lost a little coin is all it amounts to. tmbz1
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40-1 from the rail in a cheap nw of 750 per start you would think you sit in and try for a check something not right and it was a series so money earned or finish position might matter
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Reminds me of the front end scorching that Grismore used to into at Nfld years ago!
Griz couldn't deal with the fact that Walter drove rings around him so he acted childish just like that.
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northfield use to fine drivers for this. not sure if they still do but i have seen that more than a few times.with that being said why should the favirote be given the front so easily uncontested. fuck it . boys wanna race let them race. better have that fishman fuel to take the heat the whole mile.
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Hell yeah!!!
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All these judges should be fined 500 dollars. Stupid stupid people. Now there going to tell the drivers how to drive their race. Usta should be ashamed of themselves giving these morons a license to judge
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Maybe the #1 cant sit in a hole and chokes and needs to be on the front. Maybe they were trying to see if he was any better on the front end. Maybe he was on go and their juice just sucks. Or maybe they were gambling and left the favirote off the ticket or maybe Tim deaton sucks as a driver and so does Neill and bob and both are brain dead.
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I’ve been watching and owning harness since the mid 1960’s. I thought I have seen and heard it all until I saw this ruling yesterday. I had to read it a few times to make sure I wasn’t dreaming. Then I pinched myself but it was still there. OMG!
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Maybe the #1 cant sit in a hole and chokes and needs to be on the front. Maybe they were trying to see if he was any better on the front end. Maybe he was on go and their juice just sucks. Or maybe they were gambling and left the favirote off the ticket or maybe Tim deaton sucks as a driver and so does Neill and bob and both are brain dead.
Maybe!
tmbz1
ngc3
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Remember watching this race I had a few bucks on Deaton's horse and cursed him upside down for not taking back. I could have clunked both of their heads together finishing up the track.
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Kids learning and has some ok hands but you see this and think what the hell is he thinking. Deaton that is.
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Kids learning and has some ok hands but you see this and think what the hell is he thinking. Deaton that is.
Deaton’s not the dude to try and punk on the track. Best guess is Neill fucked him at some point earlier in the card and Deaton let him know it was coming or Deaton was under strict orders to hang everyone.
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Driver of the 1 would rather get last then let anyone go,
he should've been fined too