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Title: Contaminated Samples
Post by: toothman on January 06, 2024, 11:19:25 AM
Can someone explain the chain of custody on post race samples
 how do recreational or prescripton drugs get into samples?
I read about grooms or others peeing in stalls?
How does that get in the samples?
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Gaagoots on January 06, 2024, 11:33:42 AM
I know a trainer that walked a ringer into the piss stall at Monti and got away with it.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: SwankToliverA on January 06, 2024, 03:06:41 PM
I know a trainer that walked a ringer into the piss stall at Monti and got away with it.

What trainer would that be, Gaag? Enlighten us all, please
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Kirby's Ace on January 06, 2024, 04:45:34 PM
I know a trainer that walked a ringer into the piss stall at Monti and got away with it.

FORD!

 73cv.2
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: talkstohisself on January 06, 2024, 04:57:03 PM
Can someone explain the chain of custody on post race samples
 how do recreational or prescripton drugs get into samples?
I read about grooms or others peeing in stalls?
How does that get in the samples?
this is how it happens very simple the under the influence groom pees in stall, The said horse ignores  the fe ed bucket, the flakes of hay, and gobbles up the tainted urine in the bedding  that they have shittin and pissin in, that ran through the human, result  ,,positive.    simple
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: SwankToliverA on January 06, 2024, 06:38:45 PM
FORD!

 73cv.2

You're probably not wrong, Kirby
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Gaagoots on January 06, 2024, 08:14:26 PM
this is how it happens very simple the under the influence groom pees in stall, The said horse ignores  the fe ed bucket, the flakes of hay, and gobbles up the tainted urine in the bedding  that they have shittin and pissin in, that ran through the human, result  ,,positive.    simple
A horse won't go near that contaminated bedding if they are properly fed.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: shamrock stable on January 06, 2024, 11:35:38 PM
It's not contamination. Unless the dirt ball groom is putting it in the horses mouth or Into their system somehow. But I'd have to think that Trainers are not that dumb to try meth. I hope they are smarter than that.
     Also could be someone in the test barn.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Mailbox Money on January 07, 2024, 11:39:01 PM
It's not the drug,it's the levels that are considered positive! Chances are that most anyone can test positive under the current system. When a horse is positive and the level is 1 or 2 pecograms, (it takes something like 3 trillion to fill a swimming pool). We live in a CONTAMINATED SOCIETY! At least hold off the hand slaps until someone has obtained a pharmacological effect from the presence of a drug. 💉💉💉🎯🤑
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Harness racer on January 07, 2024, 11:41:24 PM
How would this apply to meth positives?   ngc3
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: helpplease on January 08, 2024, 09:35:31 AM
It's not contamination. Unless the dirt ball groom is putting it in the horses mouth or Into their system somehow. But I'd have to think that Trainers are not that dumb to try meth. I hope they are smarter than that.
     Also could be someone in the test barn.

It was some time back but I read or heard that almost ALL paper money when swabbed tests positive for cocaine.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: tumbleweed on January 08, 2024, 12:26:09 PM
It was some time back but I read or heard that almost ALL paper money when swabbed tests positive for cocaine.
You are right. When you ion scan paper money itwill show traces of coke most always.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Parked on January 08, 2024, 01:42:34 PM
A horse won't go near that contaminated bedding if they are properly fed.
Don’t know about that as some trainers claimed the horses ate bushels of sawdust a day.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Gaagoots on January 08, 2024, 02:43:06 PM
Don’t know about that as some trainers claimed the horses ate bushels of sawdust a day.
Maybe if they were starving, I've been around horses my whole life I've never seen that.  I know in Alaska they feed cottonwood branches because there's nothing else to graze on in the dead of winter.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Generation XYZ on January 08, 2024, 09:19:28 PM
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Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Stan durbread on January 08, 2024, 10:47:43 PM
https://uknowledge.uky.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1033&context=gerc_facpub
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Stan durbread on January 08, 2024, 10:48:32 PM
This might help some of you understand environmental contamination.
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: toothman on January 09, 2024, 01:46:42 PM
Thats a great article.
Makes a good chunk of testing ridiculous
Title: Re: Contaminated Samples
Post by: Generation XYZ on January 10, 2024, 08:27:06 PM
Contaminated samples? we talking about paternity tests here? ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
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