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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on December 20, 2023, 06:16:27 PM
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https://harnesslink.com/usa/shetler-vs-indiana-racing-commission-not-a-pretty-story/
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My immediate reaction is to side with Shetler but I've heard this denial stuff before from dear friends who were guilty as sin.
And if you listen to me I've always been innocent.
So does anyone know the truth of this? Is it really a malicious fabrication?
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My immediate reaction is to side with Shetler but I've heard this denial stuff before from dear friends who were guilty as sin.
And if you listen to me I've always been innocent.
So does anyone know the truth of this? Is it really a malicious fabrication?
Years back, my wife taught at a public school and she had hundreds of stories about kids denying actions right in front of her. So, yeah, people lie.
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right or wrong i have no idea in this instance
however i wish associations etc would be this diligent in proving and following up on all cases
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look park ,has hooser gone bad?
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With out knowing Shelter or being there it's a tough one to commit on. Iam not heartless but I know today it's the best chemist not the best trainer who wins the most races. My lawyers told me deny,deny,deny and you're not guilty until you run out of money.
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Anyone see the video? If i was him i would demand to get it and make it public if it shows a dose syringe 🤷♀️
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I found this quote from the article very interesting.
"EPO (All-natural blood builder to supercharge speed, strength and endurance)"
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I have no idea what side to trust/believe but what I do find interesting is this
Shelter explained. “All they found in their search was two empty bottles that had plunger ends on them that you could stick a needle in them, but they were not horse related. They found them in my cooler in the back of my truck and they had been there for six to eight months. I had forgotten about them when I used them in Florida during the winter.”
How damn long does a normal person carry a cooler around in the back of a truck and never open it up? I personally don’t keep a damn cooler in my truck for 6-8 months
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I CALL BULLSHIT. THE DENY DENY DENY, ONLY WORKS FOR HOWARD TAYLOR. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Right or wrong, the commission has decided that Andy is not a credit to the industry....they will continue to haunt him.
Life is not always fair. this is an opportunity for Mr. Shetler to choose a new career path.
Turn the page.....only Andy knows the truth...obviously the gods of Indiana harness racing have an intense hard on for the guy.
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Indiana is a no win state. They will bury him and anyone he's associated with. His best option is to get a trailer and move to Mark Ford's farm. They let anyone in there.
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Indiana is a no win state. They will bury him and anyone he's associated with. His best option is to get a trailer and move to Mark Ford's farm. They let anyone in there.
Well expect for one...
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Well expect for one...
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All the more reason that harness racing needs HISA. I don’t know Andy very well but this is a clear cut case of them nailing a little guy to the cross and turning a blind eye to people like Tyler George and Erv Miller and people they like. Andy will never be able to beat them. Look what they did to Brandon bates for having a gun in his parked car in the parking lot. When joe Morris, Rick Moore and the commission have it in for you, that’s it. This is why I Hope HISA or we get one large racing commission that oversees the sport on a national level. One set of rules that apply across the board.
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A.S. will not gain any backing unless he can get the videos on a public site! If the claims are debunked, the case will become a different story! Right now it appears to be a lost cause unless A.S. goes on the offensive.
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I have no doubt the guy is guilty of something...but not what he has gotten. Seems crazy to be able to have your livelihood taken away because someone doesn't like you. When others who have done the same get far less. Could he file a civil suit against them?
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I have no doubt the guy is guilty of something...but not what he has gotten. Seems crazy to be able to have your livelihood taken away because someone doesn't like you. When others who have done the same get far less. Could he file a civil suit against them?
The Law suit route is the only route. Once you take it away from the Racing officials and place it in a real court left up to real judges. The whole objective changes.
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Don’t really know if he’s lying or not, if I had to bet I would say he is lying. Known many, many trainers and owners over the years. It’s all good until you get busted and they will lie right to your face and give you every excuse there is about it wasn’t their fault or some other BS. And then they will blow everyone else in also that’s doing illegal crap to the horses. Camera footage and photos don’t lie !
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Don’t really know if he’s lying or not, if I had to bet I would say he is lying. Known many, many trainers and owners over the years. It’s all good until you get busted and they will lie right to your face and give you every excuse there is about it wasn’t their fault or some other BS. And then they will blow everyone else in also that’s doing illegal crap to the horses. Camera footage and photos don’t lie !
Its the lies which resulted in the cameras...
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My bad, guess he’s guilty then. Just because he’s only been caught once in all those years doesn’t mean he’s never done it before. Just been getting away with it like 75 % of the trainers.
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The solution for these non-medically licensed 'trainers' is simple. There should be NO----ZERO-----syringes nor medications ANYWHERE in a trainer's barn, house, truck, etc. Why? They are NOT a licensed veterinary professional. Many cannot even pronounce the chemical names of the 'drugs' they are injecting into these innocent creatures. Can a non-professional prescribe medications to their own family or friends with a pharmacy? NO! They are NOT legally licensed to do that! These are all excuses once caught and it is tiresome to see this every single Friday on the USTA website with many of the same characters named.
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If anything the guy should be banned for having a pair of concrete hands. One of the worst drivers I have seen over the years.
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which is why I suggested he consider a career change...could not drive a hot nail in a snowbank.
auto-toss...unless it was a boat race.
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ANDY ISNT A BAD GUY, BUT HE GOT CAUGHT RED-HANDED. MEANWHILE HOOSIER IS MORE POLITICALLY CORUPT THEN THE CHICAGO TRACKS BACK IN THE DAY. FUNNY I WAS JUST THINKING HOW THEY BURY A GUY LIKE ANDY SHETLER WHO WAS A NON FACTOR AND ALLOW GUYS LIKE DYLAN DAVIS, HOWARD TAYLOR, RUCKER AND TYLER GEORGE JUST TO NAME A FEW. HOOSIER IS A B RACETRACK WITH FAKE WANNABE DRIVERS AND TRAINERS WHO ARE SELF-RIGHTEOUS MANAGEMENT KISS ASSES. 75% OF THE LEADING TRAINERS AND DRIVERS AT HOOSIER WOULDNT BE IN THE BUSINESS IF IT WASNT FOR THE SLOT WELFARE THEY GIVE AWAY. I MEAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR DRIVERS COLONY. MARVIN LUNA IS THEIR NEXT RISING SUPERSTAR. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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ANDY ISNT A BAD GUY, BUT HE GOT CAUGHT RED-HANDED. MEANWHILE HOOSIER IS MORE POLITICALLY CORUPT THEN THE CHICAGO TRACKS BACK IN THE DAY. FUNNY I WAS JUST THINKING HOW THEY BURY A GUY LIKE ANDY SHETLER WHO WAS A NON FACTOR AND ALLOW GUYS LIKE DYLAN DAVIS, HOWARD TAYLOR, RUCKER AND TYLER GEORGE JUST TO NAME A FEW. HOOSIER IS A B RACETRACK WITH FAKE WANNABE DRIVERS AND TRAINERS WHO ARE SELF-RIGHTEOUS MANAGEMENT KISS ASSES. 75% OF THE LEADING TRAINERS AND DRIVERS AT HOOSIER WOULDNT BE IN THE BUSINESS IF IT WASNT FOR THE SLOT WELFARE THEY GIVE AWAY. I MEAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR DRIVERS COLONY. MARVIN LUNA IS THEIR NEXT RISING SUPERSTAR. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
LAO, are you referring to Jay Hocky also? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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ANDY ISNT A BAD GUY, BUT HE GOT CAUGHT RED-HANDED. MEANWHILE HOOSIER IS MORE POLITICALLY CORUPT THEN THE CHICAGO TRACKS BACK IN THE DAY. FUNNY I WAS JUST THINKING HOW THEY BURY A GUY LIKE ANDY SHETLER WHO WAS A NON FACTOR AND ALLOW GUYS LIKE DYLAN DAVIS, HOWARD TAYLOR, RUCKER AND TYLER GEORGE JUST TO NAME A FEW. HOOSIER IS A B RACETRACK WITH FAKE WANNABE DRIVERS AND TRAINERS WHO ARE SELF-RIGHTEOUS MANAGEMENT KISS ASSES. 75% OF THE LEADING TRAINERS AND DRIVERS AT HOOSIER WOULDNT BE IN THE BUSINESS IF IT WASNT FOR THE SLOT WELFARE THEY GIVE AWAY. I MEAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR DRIVERS COLONY. MARVIN LUNA IS THEIR NEXT RISING SUPERSTAR. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Why are you always YELLING?
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Why are you always YELLING?
BECAUSE I'M FUCKING MAD AT MORONS LIKE YOU SENATOR BLOWHARDSKY