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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LAW AND ORDER on December 19, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
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A FEW OF THESE GUYS ONLY GOT TWO OR THREE YEARS SO WHAT WILL THEY DO WHEN THEY GET OUT? RACE AGAIN OR STAY AWAY AND TRY THEIR LUCK AT A DIFFERENT TRADE. GUYS LIKE GRASSO AND BANCA ARE OLD SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT NEW PROFESSION THEY CAN LEARN.
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100% they will race if not upfront then under beards
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100% they will race if not upfront then under beards
Absolutely they will be back, racing is a sewer and these scumbags fit right in
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A FEW OF THESE GUYS ONLY GOT TWO OR THREE YEARS SO WHAT WILL THEY DO WHEN THEY GET OUT? RACE AGAIN OR STAY AWAY AND TRY THEIR LUCK AT A DIFFERENT TRADE. GUYS LIKE GRASSO AND BANCA ARE OLD SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT NEW PROFESSION THEY CAN LEARN.
Huh? Banca is 48
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Huh? Banca is 48
Did you see the pic of Bianca that someone posted after they took him into custody. Omg he looked like he was a 75 year old man with cancer.
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A FEW OF THESE GUYS ONLY GOT TWO OR THREE YEARS SO WHAT WILL THEY DO WHEN THEY GET OUT? RACE AGAIN OR STAY AWAY AND TRY THEIR LUCK AT A DIFFERENT TRADE. GUYS LIKE GRASSO AND BANCA ARE OLD SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT NEW PROFESSION THEY CAN LEARN.
Nick can return to his role as CEO of his landscaping business.
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I hope neither are ever allowed near a horse again. But I'm sure that will not be the case. Might not be in their names, but they will probably be calling the shots from somewhere.
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Allard never stopped racing.
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I’m sure if you asked Allard… he would love to blow Nicky boy
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Allard never stopped racing.
Correct
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Allard isn't running anything where he is, including his mouth. when he comes back , He'll be on probation. He won't be able to shit without them knowing about it. My wish is that they deport his ass back to Canada the day he's released,
caught back here it's 10 yrs super max.
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Nick can return to his role as CEO of his landscaping business.
He can cut the grass in the infield at Freehold Raceway.
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Allard isn't running anything where he is, including his mouth. when he comes back , He'll be on probation. He won't be able to shit without them knowing about it. My wish is that they deport his ass back to Canada the day he's released,
caught back here it's 10 yrs super max.
And take his pedophile brother with him.
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Absolutely they will be back, racing is a sewer and these scumbags fit right in
100% correct. And to be honest, what the fuck else could they do? Best they could hope for would be minimum wage and I doubt either one really likes to work for a living.
Maybe they both die in prison and we are all blessed.
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I hope if he is getting used to the nice clothes and shoes they've provided for his use. He gets to spend a nice enjoyable Christmas surrounded by inmates and guards. Some of his friends from racing are also enjoying the same thing. I hope they enjoy every holiday like that. They deserve so many more great things to happen, bed checks, cavity searches. I wish them to be caught with contraband, and loose every minute of good time, spend some time in special housing. Enjoying the fruits of their work.
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Let's be serious..... everyone in harness racing has done what these guys did..........Ther e are very few angels out there...also....B anca's father is a multimillionaire real estate investor .....
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Let's be serious..... everyone in harness racing has done what these guys did..........Ther e are very few angels out there...also....B anca's father is a multimillionaire real estate investor .....
BANCAS DAD SPENT A BOATLOAD OF MONEY TRYING TO GET THEM TO BACK OFF BUT THERE WAS AND STILL IS JUST WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THAT FISHMAN LIST WHO ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO GO DOWN ONE YEAR AT A TIME. WHY DO YOU THINK ERV IS LAYING SO LOW. YOU HARDLY HEAR HIS NAME. HE IS SCREWED BUT DON'T EXPECT LUCPARK TO TELL YOU.
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Could you imagine being denied your liberty? I'm not sure I could name a person that has spent an hour in a cell.
I guess if it is all you know, it is not a big deal. But for so many normal people, that would be unimaginable.
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They haven't stopped 🤣
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Poconos has already planned a welcome home party!
Free food and drinks after the races!
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Anyone who has spent 1 minute behind a cell door will tell you it's intimidating, to say the least. There have been a number of prominent horseman who have been incarcerated. and a lot of not very important people.
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Anyone who has spent 1 minute behind a cell door will tell you it's intimidating, to say the least. There have been a number of prominent horseman who have been incarcerated. and a lot of not very important people.
SO YOU THINK THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO RACE WHEN THEY GET RELEASED? THATS THE QUESTION
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Let them race to pay off their debts. Oh ya, nothing back on the income tax return ngc3
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They should not be allowed to race. They all plead guilty, haven't seen any remorse. Should have been part of sentence.
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Interested to see the who the first jurisdiction to license one of these scumbags.
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Allard will swoop in the B.R. barn at NFLD and hang his plaque on the stalls he has there!
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Allard will swoop in the B.R. barn at NFLD and hang his plaque on the stalls he has there!
You think so? Will he reunite with Soulsby and Steck his other Ohio Beard?
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You think so? Will he reunite with Soulsby and Steck his other Ohio Beard?
Allard should never be allowed within a mile of a horse--anywhere. From the transcripts- when they raided his barn--he had a pharmacy present in his "Vet Room". He employed a Vet-Grasso-who apparently just obeyed whatever Allard wanted. Grasso as we heard had a serious Gambling addiction--which made him putty in Allards hands.If it wasnt for Grasso getting in trouble with the Feds--he was also in Trouble with the Casinos!.
All the indicted are in the right place--hopefully racing never sees them again.
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Seriously, they should all be banned for life.
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1. No jurisdiction will grant a racing license to any of the convicted felons upon release.
2. Upon release each will serve their probation period with an assigned probation officer. The court will require financial statements monthly as long as they are on probation and every penny earned will be required to be reported on a monthly basis.
3. Currently each of the incarcerated have already begun to repay the restitution from their prison wages which are very low. Federal law requires a minimum of $25/quarter of payments from their prison salary.
4. Upon completion of probation each will be forced to continue monthly payments in restitution until 100% of all restitution is repaid. Although, at the end of probation the restitution judgment becomes a civil case and is out of the criminal docket.
5. Until restitution is repaid in full no one will receive a tax refund from federal taxes.
6. Probation officers can visit the homes of the convicted felons at their discretion.
7. Most likely the federal government has already investigated assets of each and most will be levied on and sold including joint property owned by wives---usually the percentage owned by wife is returned to wife if there is equity in the home, car, etc.
8. Many foreign countries will not let a convicted felon enter their country---ie. Canada.
9. The US government will not issue passports to those owing over $50,000 in restitution.
10. Upon completion of probation the criminal judgment is converted to a civil judgment and is collected for 20 years or death. It does not go away---it remains for 20 years or death.
11. Most companies will not hire a convicted felon----there may be jobs out there but few.
12. Many credit issuers will deny credit or cancel credit cards already issued if you become or are a convicted felon----even after probation ends.
13. Many banks will not open checking/savings for convicted felon.
14. Lifetime ban to own any guns or for anyone in your household to have possession of any firearm. Immediate violation and ex will be sent back to prison from where they were released
15.Everyone works in prison.
16. Can you recover from being a convicted felon-----very few do and it is nearly impossible for most to earn what they truly could earn
17. Most spouses file for divorce within 12 months of the conviction due to their laws that can in fact penalize the other spouse and innocent children.
Truthfully, few if any recover----these folks will never race and if there is hidden ownership --it will be discovered. This is not a game--this is the real thing There is no such thing as CLUB FED---it is prison. Most tracks would deny access to the track if known they were convicted felons.
It is a long and rocky road to recovery. Recall the restitution remains for 20 years or death.
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A long and truthful explanation of what it means to be a convicted felon. Those are the rules and law. But, criminals in most part don't follow the rules and law. They make up their own code of behavior.
Does anyone think Allard will be getting a job at the local Piggly Wiggly , stocking shelves on the overnight shift and giving half his wages to satisfy his restitution and fines?
Also, I thought the FEDs would deport him, once the sentence is maxed out. How do you collect from a foreign citizen?
Merry Christmas, Counselor. I enjoy your posts.
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In a perfect world all that would happen…. Does anyone believe if a felon shows up at a bank or casino with cash in their hand to deposit or wager that they will be turned away ???
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If that was so, many casinos would be closed, today. If every truck driver who has a felony conviction stopped his truck right now, there would be a jam-up from Boston to San Fran .
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I'm sure Harrahs Philadelphia will welcome them with open arms.
Listen to this cast of abusers and chemists racing there today.
Dean Eckley
Jack Pelling
Garreth Dowse
Hunter Oakes
Darren Tanneyhill
Marc Mosher
Scott Dimenico
Jen Bongiorno
HAVE NEEDLE WILL TRAVEL to Chester PA.
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I'm sure Harrahs Philadelphia will welcome them with open arms.
Listen to this cast of abusers and chemists racing there today.
Dean Eckley
Jack Pelling
Garreth Dowse
Hunter Oakes
Darren Tanneyhill
Marc Mosher
Scott Dimenico
Jen Bongiorno
HAVE NEEDLE WILL TRAVEL to Chester PA.
Only a matter of time for these perpetual abusers.
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We see the same thing year in and year out! This cast of characters should have been eradicated years ago. The judges,commission and the rest of the people who are able to end it,won't do what it takes to rectify the situation! Too many of the enforcement employees are only involved for a paycheck! It will take a dedicated effort to make sure the people are wagering on a honest game! Instead of giving discounts for appeal rights,let's give 72hrs to pay or the penalties are DOUBLED!
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These pos will be back at some farm sticking needles in a horses neck racing under a fake trainers name.
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These pos will be back at some farm sticking needles in a horses neck racing under a fake trainers name.
If the feds get a sniff of that, they will regret it. Who knows, maybe they will be so fucked up from the time they did, that they will never risk it.
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As long as they're dealing with probation I think they'd be nuts to even try. If they didn't learn they're lesson, send them back to Jail. I can't imagine any state giving them a license of any kind.
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AGREED!!