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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on December 17, 2023, 07:14:36 AM

Title: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 17, 2023, 07:14:36 AM
Interested in Breeding to Lazarus N? 2024 Stud Fee - $5,000---reduced 50% over 2023!
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Brown jug on December 17, 2023, 07:47:51 AM
he was never mighty
one decent horse
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Harness Stats on December 17, 2023, 12:26:21 PM
He was mighty down under.  By the time he got here he was lame, never fully recovered from his injury there.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 17, 2023, 12:53:58 PM
There has  been a few overly hyped horses coming from down under

Auckland Reactor was supposedly a super horse and was beaten by Lou Pena's properly named horse named
Real Joke at Chester

San Simeon around 1980 was also talked of being great. He came here and his first start @ M1 he was 1-9 vs regular Open types and was beaten soundly

it happens

again here with Lazarus
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Brown jug on December 17, 2023, 03:21:18 PM
i was speaking about him as a sire not a race horse
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: TimTimTimbo on December 17, 2023, 07:32:16 PM
IMO, his offspring are like him, they get better with age and haven't cut it as 2yolds. Most trainers don't have the time to show much patience.

If I recall, They raced him sick (jimmy did) when he got here, he was not at his best
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Foalin at 4 on December 17, 2023, 08:36:34 PM
Down under sires, will always be at the bottom. They have no breeding!
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: rainman2 on December 19, 2023, 04:35:17 AM
Interested in Breeding to Lazarus N? 2024 Stud Fee - $5,000---reduced 50% over 2023!

Christian Cullen stood for a $ 10000 stud fee in Pennsylvania circa 2010.  Was this a better value??
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Lance on December 19, 2023, 06:42:25 AM
I can recall a few decent studs from down under.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Manny on December 19, 2023, 07:52:07 AM
Ernie Martinez did a good bull shitting job on this horse as a stallion.  Im sure he still filled his pockets.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: augustaandy on December 19, 2023, 01:41:02 PM
mighty, Lazarus?

are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Generation XYZ on December 19, 2023, 05:28:02 PM
Ernie Martinez did a good bull shitting job on this horse as a stallion.  Im sure he still filled his pockets.

Yeah but don't forget the big money spent on the stallion was the good folks at Taylor Made, in Lexington.  The were significant ownership interest. They see guys like Martinez coming a mile away. I think there was to have been some desirable outcross possibilities but American breeding program is breed as close to together as possible and hope for freaks.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 19, 2023, 07:51:17 PM
has Auckland Reactor sired any good horses?
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Brown jug on December 19, 2023, 09:31:01 PM
correct xyz, called stacking and it works
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 20, 2023, 05:05:55 PM
mighty, Lazarus?

are you kidding me?
I was referring to the "mighty" STUD fee they charged and now has fallen.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 21, 2023, 02:38:26 PM
Never very attractive to any commercial breeder. A lot of hype and marketing simply for the backyard breeders. Ernie is good at that, and that's OK, that's his business. I never considered him a legit stallion prospect for commercial breeding. Sure, excellent horse down under, was NZ HOTY twice, pacer of the year, three or four times, and so on and so on. So he comes here and wins the Dan Patch and the Hoosier Park Derby. None of that made him attractive as a stallion to a commercial breeder.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: wiseowl on December 21, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
You jerks talk like your losing money here when you have no interest in any stud just knock some ones horse bunch of losers.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty stud fees have fallen for---LAZARUS N!
Post by: Lance on December 21, 2023, 03:19:22 PM
Down under sires, will always be at the bottom. They have no breeding!

 Speak for yourself. Although I agree...they are always on the bottom.
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