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Title: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 06:05:12 PM
Race 1   Rhoades gets # 7 for the first time....

My choice would be a bomb

# 4  Hoosier horse can surprise
#1 and #2 are the logical choices

dd  124/4
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 06:11:34 PM
Race 1   Rhoades gets # 7 for the first time....

My choice would be a bomb

# 4  Hoosier horse can surprise
#1 and #2 are the logical choices

dd  124/4
dead last
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 06:13:57 PM
dead last
No surprise
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 06:18:33 PM
p4 4/124/349/147

Race 2
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 06:20:47 PM
Race 1   Rhoades gets # 7 for the first time....

My choice would be a bomb

# 4  Hoosier horse can surprise
#1 and #2 are the logical choices

dd  124/4

4 second at 18-1 far in front of the rest. Beats this field easily next time, but no 18-1 im sure

Race 2  Rhoades is 9-5 ML with the #1

I'll go the the #4. Loney Kentucky snake veevom better when colder

p4  4/14/3/14
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 06:42:15 PM
In race 2 Rhoades distant 3rd at 6-5

In racee 3 Rhoades has #6   5-2 ML

Lets toss him again   4 win box 14
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on November 28, 2023, 07:01:09 PM
And another Rhoades favorite backs up through the field. This is a really bad look.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 07:06:54 PM
And another Rhoades favorite backs up through the field. This is a really bad look.

Yep...and it really makes Northfield impossible. Merriman leaves and the hoses stop and take out 1/2 the field. Like the 4 in the last race.

In race 4 he has the 8  5-2 ML

I'll toss   p3  3/14/23

Lets bring home the p3 pigland
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 07:11:56 PM
Yep...and it really makes Northfield impossible. Merriman leaves and the hoses stop and take out 1/2 the field. Like the 4 in the last race.

In race 4 he has the 8  5-2 ML

I'll toss   p3  3/14/23

Lets bring home the p3 pigland
P3

349/147/37
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 07:20:44 PM
Resita rac 4   5-2   dead lame breaks.

Hey Petrelli....I know you know about Rhoades. I hope you are tuning in
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 07:22:33 PM
 tmbz1
Resita rac 4   5-2   dead lame breaks.

Hey Petrelli....I know you know about Rhoades. I hope you are tuning in
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 07:44:51 PM
p4 4/124/349/147

Race 2

Was rooting for the 4 or 7 for big balloons
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 07:55:35 PM
In race 6  Billy has #4 Triumphirants Chip for VIP Internet Stable
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:08:44 PM
In race 6  Billy has #4 Triumphirants Chip for VIP Internet Stable

Guess what...last again gimpng past finish line
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:12:34 PM
Yep...and it really makes Northfield impossible. Merriman leaves and the hoses stop and take out 1/2 the field. Like the 4 in the last race.

In race 4 he has the 8  5-2 ML

I'll toss   p3  3/14/23

Lets bring home the p3 pigland

312 p3  $50
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:18:01 PM
Race 7   Billy Has as  #3  Mink street  7-5  ML...I'll pass and go with #4
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
Race 7   Billy Has as  #3  Mink street  7-5  ML...I'll pass and go with #4
nice
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:37:41 PM
Rhodes 1-1 race 7   loser

Inn race 8 rhoades has #6  Manofmanymuscles   6-5 ML   I'll take the 5
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:51:25 PM
Rhodes 1-1 race 7   loser

Inn race 8 rhoades has #6  Manofmanymuscles   6-5 ML   I'll take the 5
'

Race 8   Rhoades off  the board. 5 jogs
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: onabrake on November 28, 2023, 08:53:20 PM
When has Merriman ever been on a Rhoades 6-5 morning line and taken ZERO late money to go off at 4-1, sit a perfect trip and have ZERO animal in the lane. This whole charade is TOO FUNNY. DEAD GAME LADDIES and dead Rhoades.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 08:58:25 PM
So in race 10 I have a dilemma.  Rhiades is picking up the #1 from weak training David Zito.

If Rhoades has any real training acumen and it has not all a facade of PEDS, this one would improve ans win. No bet in this race.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 28, 2023, 09:12:44 PM
Bello- Skyline in the 9th?
Knew it was going down the road, when Leah owns it. Lmao
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 09:13:55 PM
So in race 10 I have a dilemma.  Rhiades is picking up the #1 from weak training David Zito.

If Rhoades has any real training acumen and it has not all a facade of PEDS, this one would improve ans win. No bet in this race.

Much the best winner. As he should have been

Need to run


Just some selections going forward

Northfield Race 11   p3  3/159/13/1

Race 14  dd  1/13

Rosecroft

race 7  p3  8/16/25

Race 9  p  25/26/13/89

Race 12 89/8/2
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 28, 2023, 09:16:35 PM
So in race 10 I have a dilemma.  Rhiades is picking up the #1 from weak training David Zito.

If Rhoades has any real training acumen and it has not all a facade of PEDS, this one would improve ans win. No bet in this race.
Thi was meant to read the 9 th...Yep Swank...Made the difference
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 28, 2023, 09:25:38 PM
Did Sammy get popped? Noticed several weeks ago, Jodi is listed and Sam isn't
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 28, 2023, 09:27:52 PM
exposing aaron also as now we know he dont win without gas?
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: dinkadoo on November 29, 2023, 08:20:16 AM
because of this topic, i followed the early pick 4 yesterday

race 2   at 6-5 and with a good trip, finished 3rd beaten 9 behind the even money favortie

race 3  at 5-2, made an easy lead --- STOPPED, finished last beaten 30

Race 4  at 5-2, made a break in first turn  --- last

Race 6   at 15-1, beat one horse to finish 6th

Race 7   at Even , finished 2nd beaten a nose on the wire

Race 8   at 4-1, got a two hole trip and wound up 4th

Race 9, at Even, wired field from the rail

Race 11,   at 13-1, trailed the field and finished last

Race 15,   at 60-1, trailed field and finished 8th

Busy night with 9 starters     9 - 1 - 1 -1

Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on November 29, 2023, 09:26:57 AM
Thanks for the recap dink.  Been burning lots of $$$$ on those betting his horses.

I also noticed the drivers pulling early to maKE A move so they wont be backed up as these horses quit early.

Lets see if Merriman abandons him.

But in reality he will find a "remedy" sooner or later
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: PIGLAND on November 29, 2023, 11:29:57 AM
aaron stinks without drug trainers .
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: Harness racer on November 29, 2023, 12:04:21 PM
Clearly just laying low for now.  He will still hit in certain spots and eventually go back to business as usual.   tmbz1
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: seen2much on November 29, 2023, 12:11:39 PM
This is interesting how a top cheat goes dead. In my opinion no driver looks good on an empty horse. Just the same as many look good on a loaded piece. I like to see how the driver is doing on his drives from other stables before forming an opinion.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: seriously on November 29, 2023, 12:29:43 PM
When has Merriman ever been on a Rhoades 6-5 morning line and taken ZERO late money to go off at 4-1, sit a perfect trip and have ZERO animal in the lane. This whole charade is TOO FUNNY. DEAD GAME LADDIES and dead Rhoades.

It just takes a few more people to contact state legislators with this type of suspicion to nudge them the direction of decoupling. 

I'm sorry for the few good eggs, but blowing up the whole carton is my preferred method for avoiding bad eggs. 
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 29, 2023, 04:10:14 PM
Anyone else Remember last year when Cory Kreiser claimed PCs Expresso, horse looked rough on paper, breaking often... 1st start off the claim, new lifetime mark. The following 3 weeks, the horse beat his lifetime mark...Haven't seen him race in awhile
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: rainman2 on November 29, 2023, 04:40:06 PM
This is interesting how a top cheat goes dead. In my opinion no driver looks good on an empty horse. Just the same as many look good on a loaded piece. I like to see how the driver is doing on his drives from other stables before forming an opinion.

PIGLAND made a great observation on the previous issue (see previous Rhoades post here on horseplop.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: rainman2 on November 30, 2023, 06:18:11 PM
When is the next thread on the Rhodes horses coming out. I enjoy reading the names of the horses, the morning lines, and who is driving them, and they enjoy reading the results afterwards and the comments associated with the respective races. Everyone can also watch the replays too!!
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: seriously on December 03, 2023, 08:57:01 PM
I'm missing it too.

That horse in the 8th tonight (Sunday) looked awful. 

Everyone involved is complicit in this.

Just remember to remind Ohio legislators of the evils of things like this. 

I'm giving it under 5 years before serious talk of decoupling/reduction takes place.

Maybe like a certain group, horsemen will cry for reparations for the wrongs done to them. 

I love the people that think "permission" was necessary for expanding gambling.  That just cracks me the fuck up. 
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: Mailbox Money on December 04, 2023, 04:02:25 PM
aaron stinks without drug trainers .
  tmbz1 BINGO! We have a winner!
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: Brown jug on December 04, 2023, 06:35:20 PM
just so you know the nonsense/bullshit/cheating that goes on in harness racing has nothing to do with casinos wanting decoupling, they would want it even if it was squeaky clean
and yes the "permission/rebate/cost of entry" was absolutely necessary for casinos to gain access and a gambling license
if it wasn't do you think they would have done that deal
they have enough lawyers to find a loop hole and they couldn't and wanted it fast tracked so did the deal with horseman groups
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 07:31:58 PM
Off the board race 1 at 6-5. I scored out on the winner.

On vacation this week so not spending much time here. He has a few droppers tonight that will lose but I do expect a winner later in the card. We shall see,
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 08:08:26 PM
Race 6  1 horse  2-1 ML   1-1 until post time and then may have  had $$$$ removed late and went off at 2-1. You guessed it. Done at 1/w and off the board.Betting patterns similar to Surick and Andy Miller at Freehold a few years back,
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 08:31:18 PM
Race 7  8-5 fave dh for second
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: seriously on December 04, 2023, 09:23:34 PM
just so you know the nonsense/bullshit/cheating that goes on in harness racing has nothing to do with casinos wanting decoupling, they would want it even if it was squeaky clean
and yes the "permission/rebate/cost of entry" was absolutely necessary for casinos to gain access and a gambling license
if it wasn't do you think they would have done that deal
they have enough lawyers to find a loop hole and they couldn't and wanted it fast tracked so did the deal with horseman groups

The key being "fast tracked".  Of course they had to do what they did when they did to expedite things, but to think that beyond a period harness racing is owed anything is insane.  It is only a matter of time before they "slowtrack" decoupling.

The horse racing world has had more then enough time to get their business on track.  So when decoupling comes, it will be nice to see failures finally fail. 

Shit, pot is legal most places.   Horse people should be on their knees thanking any god they believe in for the deals they've gotten.  It is obvious times and attitudes change. 

And of course gambling interests don't care about racing and its problems, but all the bad publicity will make it that much easier to get rid of it. 

Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: Brown jug on December 04, 2023, 09:49:36 PM
well actually harness racing is allowed some sort of payment based on what they gave the casinos
could horse racing do better, of course they could and  have to very soon
but to expect horse racing be at the same relative level it was years ago is insane
they allowed casinos to open on their property
their is legal sports betting everywhere
people cant bet on their phones and watch and bet races from home
remember 25 years ago horse racing was almost the only legal betting game in town
its a different world and racing needs to adapt and change

but yes it continues with casinos continuing to support it at some level
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: SwankToliverA on December 04, 2023, 10:00:08 PM
Bello- the DH for 2nd in the 7th was an early Christmas present, because the 1 got up, it wasn't even close...
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 10:36:01 PM
Bello- the DH for 2nd in the 7th was an early Christmas present, because the 1 got up, it wasn't even close...

Agree,,,,I was looking for an alternative race 14 and I simply cant find one,
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: seriously on December 04, 2023, 10:45:18 PM
well actually harness racing is allowed some sort of payment based on what they gave the casinos


I would just ask....for how long?   

Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 11:00:37 PM
OK, If this prick Rhoades loses this one ( race 14) he should be led from the track in handcuffs
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 11:06:35 PM
Race 14...Rhoades off the board at 1-1, Het Bianconi,,,its your old friend Bello. What are yu going to do about this guy.

Get a set of balls. Yeah right, as is that will really happen.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 11:08:41 PM
BILLY RHOADES...A POSTER BOY FOR DECOUPLING AND HORSE ABUSE.

PETRELLI, THIS SHOULD BE EASY PICKINGS!
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: bello on December 04, 2023, 11:27:25 PM
iN race 15  the Rhoades 6 horse was s lame he could not make the gate the race.

Reply #4 in this thread I gave out the winner in this race, Hammered from 8-1 to 5-2 late
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: rainman2 on December 04, 2023, 11:30:49 PM
Since Rhoades is crashing and burning at Northfield right now, where will he set up shop next?
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: SwankToliverA on December 04, 2023, 11:41:26 PM
One of 2 things is going on, imho-
Either Rhoades is waiting for a shipment or he knows/thinks he's being watched.

Bello- 5 should've jogged home in the 14th
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: shotgunner on December 06, 2023, 07:52:19 PM
Brookview Bolt pocketed up and held second today at the meadows. Almost jumped it off in the last turn trying to keep up with the leader.
Title: Re: Tuesday Billy Rhoades watch at Northfield
Post by: rainman2 on December 06, 2023, 10:35:56 PM
This is not true. That was how it was done to get it done quickly but slots and casino gambling have proliferated because the people wanted it. Racetrack were just a fast way to get started. It would have happened anyway. The big mistake racing made was not keeping control of the casinos. If racing interests owned the casinos they could make a conscious decision to subsidize racing. You can bet the bean counters at the casino companies put out regular reports showing the red ink generated by racing.

I don’t think any racetrack could afford the initial outlay to keep control of their own action. Even the Rooney’s sold out near the time New York State put in the VLT’S. Now if were talking about the 1960’s and 1970’s then it could have been done financially.
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