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Title: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: CMJAnew on November 09, 2023, 07:29:36 AM
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Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: White Rabbit on November 09, 2023, 08:30:54 AM
Clarke and Reynolds’s barn total loss of everything, all horses. Let’s hope Gural steps up
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 09, 2023, 08:32:57 AM
Horrific news to hear. Awful. Lets hope Gural is more expeditious on his execution of helping these folks.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dingus on November 09, 2023, 08:57:37 AM
Clarke and Reynolds’s barn total loss of everything, all horses. Let’s hope Gural steps up

Randy Taft said at least 30 horses
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: London on November 09, 2023, 09:07:02 AM
WTF...how awful....😥
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dingus on November 09, 2023, 09:18:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/466020752029481/permalink/746009167363970/?mibextid=I6gGtw
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on November 09, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/466020752029481/permalink/746009167363970/?mibextid=I6gGtw

This is horrible to watch. Don't
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 09, 2023, 09:26:02 AM
Sad News
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Gaagoots on November 09, 2023, 09:36:04 AM
Prayers for the horses🙏🙏
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: London on November 09, 2023, 10:10:17 AM
Rumor has it they arrested someone..only a rumor...
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 09, 2023, 10:39:46 AM
This is heartbreaking, for the horses that perished,the owners,trainers, grooms.
Prayers to all affected, and those who are in the Hospital from trying to save horses.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: wiseowl on November 09, 2023, 10:59:39 AM
Feel very bad for any one who has lost horses and there life by a fire if you do not have insurance to cover your losses it is very hard to go on none of this is Jeff Gural fault I am sure if he can help in some way he will for the people who think prayer will help it never helped any one in history.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on November 09, 2023, 12:25:30 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lee-kayla-morris?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&fbclid=IwAR2qzHGbw_oaudTh6qnrHfClYzPikbX2CHlIAozfmEzz03yBOjPZ1vjwsDA


https://www.gofundme.com/f/nr8faj?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 09, 2023, 12:54:23 PM
Several trainers have said, an arrest was made. Arson
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: London on November 09, 2023, 01:20:43 PM
Several trainers have said, an arrest was made. Arson
is there no security on the back stretch.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MCR on November 09, 2023, 01:26:03 PM
That's God awful! Thoughts and prayers to all involved.  My heart breaks for them poor horses.  If it's truly arson they should burn that son of a bitch alive.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 09, 2023, 01:52:33 PM
HAKU- SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIEHOLE!!!
NYSP have put out a press release,  it WAS Arson, Arrest has been made. Name has not been released yet.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Low Groove on November 09, 2023, 02:45:14 PM
Just awful.

Saw on Twitter aka X that at least 40 horses died.

Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Stan durbread on November 09, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
is there no security on the back stretch.
I heard it was a disgruntled groom
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Haku on November 09, 2023, 03:11:06 PM
Guys I would never want to upset anyone. This is a disaster. You are correct someone is in custody. I'm sorry if I came off wrong. My heart is broken like everyone else's. How evil like this could exist is beyond me. God bless us all 
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: jupiter on November 09, 2023, 03:49:52 PM
Who all were stabled in that barn?
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on November 09, 2023, 03:52:04 PM
Who all were stabled in that barn?

https://harnesslink.com/usa/tioga-downs-barn-fire/?fbclid=IwAR1SB2vbcGivuCsgtPaLl8JlV3zIs9D08vNId90K-F3z7mQJmB-SYQ7Oqkc
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 09, 2023, 04:14:09 PM
WAS IT A HORSEMANS REVENGE?
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: rainman2 on November 09, 2023, 04:19:45 PM
is there no security on the back stretch.

Minimum security.  No live racing.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: bodnarcny on November 09, 2023, 05:21:04 PM
My condolences go out to the owners, trainers and especially those poor horses in the Tioga Downs fire. To the person that started the fire (please Lord forgive me for saying this) "I hope you rot in hell". Not only did you kill 31 horses -- you ruined the livelihood of so many.  Lord, please be with everyone suffering from this terrible tragedy, keep them safe, and bring help to them. God, bless each and every person affected by this fire and surround them with Your love, protection, and angels. Let them know there are millions of us out here praying for them. AMEN.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Ungelded on November 09, 2023, 06:08:35 PM
Name has been released…Boyd Fenton was arrested
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 09, 2023, 06:08:44 PM
My condolences go out to the owners, trainers and especially those poor horses in the Tioga Downs fire. To the person that started the fire (please Lord forgive me for saying this) "I hope you rot in hell". Not only did you kill 31 horses -- you ruined the livelihood of so many.  Lord, please be with everyone suffering from this terrible tragedy, keep them safe, and bring help to them. God, bless each and every person affected by this fire and surround them with Your love, protection, and angels. Let them know there are millions of us out here praying for them. AMEN.
well said
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 09, 2023, 06:09:06 PM
Name has been released…Boyd Fenton was arrested
ty
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 09, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
Name has been released…Boyd Fenton was arrested
looks like Gilligan,says he is a mechanic
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 09, 2023, 06:22:04 PM
https://www.nyspnews.com/nysp-investigates-arson-at-tioga-downs-casino-complex.htm
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on November 09, 2023, 06:35:00 PM
https://www.nyspnews.com/nysp-investigates-arson-at-tioga-downs-casino-complex.htm
lets put him in a cage and light it on fire since he likes fire so much
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 09, 2023, 06:50:00 PM
lets put him in a cage and light it on fire since he likes fire so much
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Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 09, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
lets put him in a cage and light it on fire since he likes fire so much


Love this idea, but I need to pluck all his fingernails, toenails, and partially skin the sick fuck first.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: hoosierboy on November 09, 2023, 07:31:16 PM
Absolutely awful prayers for everyone
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dave Yarock on November 09, 2023, 08:48:09 PM
With deep sadness my trainer and friend Lee Morris lost all of his horses and equipment. I personally lost my horse It’s Rigged and my close friend Tom Reynolds lost his horse SD watch me mow. We along with the others who lost horses are carrying heavy hearts. This is any horseman’s true nightmare.  Thanks for the support of our fellow horsemen which we need and appreciate.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: hoosierboy on November 09, 2023, 08:54:41 PM
With deep sadness my trainer and friend Lee Morris lost all of his horses and equipment. I personally lost my horse It’s Rigged and my close friend Tom Reynolds lost his horse SD watch me mow. We along with the others who lost horses are carrying heavy hearts. This is any horseman’s true nightmare.  Thanks for the support of our fellow horsemen which we need and appreciate.

I am so sorry to hear this
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 09, 2023, 09:03:30 PM
With deep sadness my trainer and friend Lee Morris lost all of his horses and equipment. I personally lost my horse It’s Rigged and my close friend Tom Reynolds lost his horse SD watch me mow. We along with the others who lost horses are carrying heavy hearts. This is any horseman’s true nightmare.  Thanks for the support of our fellow horsemen which we need and appreciate.


Dave, I'm so sorry for your loss, as well as everyone else's losses.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Mailbox Money on November 09, 2023, 09:26:39 PM
Ditto here Dave! I hope that the happenstances from earlier in the season had no bearing on this tragic event!🙏
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: LUCPARK on November 09, 2023, 09:52:58 PM
lets put him in a cage and light it on fire since he likes fire so much

 tmbz1

Burn the motherfucker in a stall

Tie him down

No amount of jail time is  enuff

For this piece of shit
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Jctoronto on November 09, 2023, 09:58:40 PM
An horrific day there. Gawd awful.

Anybody know this scum?
Who's groom?

Im so sorry for all horsemen, owners, grooms and families and others affected, including Mr. Clarke's injuries.

And as the horse names come out, strictly from fan point of view, we know them well. Their abilities and their courage and their will to compete, and to win unmatched. Horses are so very unique and provide so much joy. All those gone are thankfully now out of pain.

God bless all of you there.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: CMJAnew on November 09, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
An horrific day there. Gawd awful.

Anybody know this scum?
Who's groom?

Not for certain....but pretty sure he has no connection to the horses or horsemen. An interloper of sorts. More details should be forthcoming. Though I don't know the ins and outs of the judicial system, the initial charges seem light.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: hoosierboy on November 09, 2023, 10:50:19 PM
tmbz1

Burn the motherfucker in a stall

Tie him down

No amount of jail time is  enuff

For this piece of shit

I agree luc
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: harnessplop on November 09, 2023, 11:04:55 PM
Looks like arson
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dingus on November 10, 2023, 12:54:30 AM
I have 1 of my horses stabled there at a different barn on the grounds, so it hit close to home. 
Hopefully, some of you will help out with the go fund me that is set up.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/nr8faj?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SeattleSlew on November 10, 2023, 02:26:11 AM
I have 1 of my horses stabled there at a different barn on the grounds, so it hit close to home. 
Hopefully, some of you will help out with the go fund me that is set up.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/nr8faj?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

In!
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 10, 2023, 07:37:22 AM
sad
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: dinkadoo on November 10, 2023, 09:37:46 AM
Update:
On November 9, 2023, New York State Police Bureau of Criminal Investigation arrested Boyd H. Fenton, age 32 of Athens, P.A. after a fire at a barn structure at the Tioga Downs Casino complex.  Over two-dozen racehorses died in the fire.

So what's the real story ? Doubt it's just a random guy who lives near the border of New York travels to the racetrack and randomly selects a barn to set afire.   
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 10, 2023, 11:07:49 AM
Update:
On November 9, 2023, New York State Police Bureau of Criminal Investigation arrested Boyd H. Fenton, age 32 of Athens, P.A. after a fire at a barn structure at the Tioga Downs Casino complex.  Over two-dozen racehorses died in the fire.

So what's the real story ? Doubt it's just a random guy who lives near the border of New York travels to the racetrack and randomly selects a barn to set afire.   
im thinking crack head
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Jctoronto on November 10, 2023, 08:43:36 PM
TOUGH SEEING VERNON SCRATCHES TONIGHT:
LEE MORRIS HORSES
SCR. PSN. (nothing more 'personal' than that)

Dale Gilmour multiple scratches there
too tonight. Also reason 'PSN'.
If fire victims as well, I missed it. If so, Mr Gilmour i'm very very sorry to hear this news.

..and condolences to all others suffering such a cruel fate.

Prayers from Canada
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SDST2009 on November 10, 2023, 08:49:57 PM
tmbz1

Burn the motherfucker in a stall

Tie him down

No amount of jail time is  enuff

For this piece of shit

100% agree. A deplorable human being.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: SDST2009 on November 10, 2023, 08:53:46 PM
With deep sadness my trainer and friend Lee Morris lost all of his horses and equipment. I personally lost my horse It’s Rigged and my close friend Tom Reynolds lost his horse SD watch me mow. We along with the others who lost horses are carrying heavy hearts. This is any horseman’s true nightmare.  Thanks for the support of our fellow horsemen which we need and appreciate.

My sincerest condolences for you and your friends' loss.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Mailbox Money on November 10, 2023, 08:54:37 PM
Just saw a national print story that states Thoroughbreds were killed by this tragic event! The Standardbreds can't even get a fair mention in a crime report! SMH
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: onabrake on November 10, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
tmbz1

Burn the motherfucker in a stall

Tie him down

No amount of jail time is  enuff

For this piece of shit


That's funny, Nick Surick also "eliminated" a number of horses and he was a good Christian in your eyes and should not have gotten jail time. Fucking hypocrite.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 10, 2023, 09:50:46 PM

That's funny, Nick Surick also "eliminated" a number of horses and he was a good Christian in your eyes and should not have gotten jail time. Fucking hypocrite.
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Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Village Idiot on November 10, 2023, 10:05:54 PM
I know Northville Downs is having a Red Out for Saturday's card as memorial and taking donations for everyone affected by the Tioga Downs Fire.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: HoppleBurns on November 10, 2023, 10:20:51 PM
Update:
On November 9, 2023, New York State Police Bureau of Criminal Investigation arrested Boyd H. Fenton, age 32 of Athens, P.A. after a fire at a barn structure at the Tioga Downs Casino complex.  Over two-dozen racehorses died in the fire.

So what's the real story ? Doubt it's just a random guy who lives near the border of New York travels to the racetrack and randomly selects a barn to set afire.   

From what I've heard (not proven fact yet)  he was thrown out of the casino for some reason or another and the angry piece of walking shit he is lit a barn on fire in retaliation
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Jctoronto on November 10, 2023, 11:05:01 PM
Hopple Burns said
**From what I've heard (not proven fact yet)  he was thrown out of the casino for some reason or another and the angry piece of walking shit he is lit a barn on fire in retaliation


if indeed the case, just un-f'ing believable.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: bond on November 11, 2023, 11:50:23 AM

That's funny, Nick Surick also "eliminated" a number of horses and he was a good Christian in your eyes and should not have gotten jail time. Fucking hypocrite.


 I cried after seeing what humans are capable of-like this POS at Tioga.

This excuse for a human being--should get the chair for his actions---burning innocent animals is a crime that is unconceivable and depraved--doesn't deserve to breathe air.

As for Surick--not only did he "get rid of" 6 horses--he also abused them by drugging them -thereby cheating fellow horsemen, gamblers and owners--lucky I'm not a judge because he wouldn't be out of jail till he was an old man.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: harnessplop on November 11, 2023, 12:15:08 PM
Unfortunately,  the grooms are often defenerates..drug gies...apcoholics ...you know who doesn't do that the grooms at belmont. The Mexicans are quiet people and not the pieces crap like harness has.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: tumbleweed on November 11, 2023, 12:18:19 PM
Unfortunately,  the grooms are often defenerates..drug gies...apcoholics ...you know who doesn't do that the grooms at belmont. The Mexicans are quiet people and not the pieces crap like harness has.
I dont think he was a groom
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: jupiter on November 11, 2023, 12:55:17 PM
I guess when not racing, just winter training they don't have security. Sounds strange that someone from the casino could just walk in and nobody asked who he was.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 11, 2023, 01:46:30 PM

 I cried after seeing what humans are capable of-like this POS at Tioga.

This excuse for a human being--should get the chair for his actions---burning innocent animals is a crime that is unconceivable and depraved--doesn't deserve to breathe air.

As for Surick--not only did he "get rid of" 6 horses--he also abused them by drugging them -thereby cheating fellow horsemen, gamblers and owners--lucky I'm not a judge because he wouldn't be out of jail till he was an old man.
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Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 11, 2023, 03:44:56 PM

 I cried after seeing what humans are capable of-like this POS at Tioga.

This excuse for a human being--should get the chair for his actions---burning innocent animals is a crime that is unconceivable and depraved--doesn't deserve to breathe air.

As for Surick--not only did he "get rid of" 6 horses--he also abused them by drugging them -thereby cheating fellow horsemen, gamblers and owners--lucky I'm not a judge because he wouldn't be out of jail till he was an old man.

You can rest easy knowing Surick will get out after having and extensive allotment of Male Anatomy lessons.  :1 11.tb 11.a
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Jctoronto on November 11, 2023, 07:06:11 PM
When I saw three more Lee Morris and connections horses scratch out tonight at Vernon due to PSN (personal) in races 9, 10, 11 inc their Open winner from last week, it hits so hard.
Awful and very sad times.

Extending hope of a brighter day.
Strength.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Foalin at 4 on November 11, 2023, 07:25:47 PM
Please donate what you can!
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dingus on November 11, 2023, 08:43:29 PM

Hopefully, some of you will help out with the go fund me that is set up.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/nr8faj?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

BUMP
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: seen2much on November 11, 2023, 09:17:47 PM
A terrible tragedy that never should have happened. It's crazy how deranged individuals affect so many lives.
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 11, 2023, 09:19:16 PM
Does anyone have any idea what kind of prison term this guy is facing?
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Foalin at 4 on November 11, 2023, 10:01:48 PM
I'll say this much Hanover and Diamond Creek have gone over the top for donations to Tioga Downs Fire Relief Fund!
Hanover
Captaintreacherou s
Captain Corey
Stay Hungry
Papi Rob Hanover
Greenshoe
Volume Eight
Tall Dark Stranger

Diamond Creek
Always B Miki
Bettors Wish
Cannibal
Captain Crunch
CONFEDERATE
Creatine
Downbytheseaside
Gimpanzee
Marseille
Pebble Beach
Sweet Lou
Tactical Approach
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 12, 2023, 05:39:06 AM

That's funny, Nick Surick also "eliminated" a number of horses and he was a good Christian in your eyes and should not have gotten jail time. Fucking hypocrite.
A tribute should be made to those lost to the Allard and Surick death camps , neither are better then this Fenton pos
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: captain morgan on November 12, 2023, 07:05:17 AM
I'll say this much Hanover and Diamond Creek have gone over the top for donations to Tioga Downs Fire Relief Fund!
Hanover
Captaintreacherou s
Captain Corey
Stay Hungry
Papi Rob Hanover
Greenshoe
Volume Eight
Tall Dark Stranger

Diamond Creek
Always B Miki
Bettors Wish
Cannibal
Captain Crunch
CONFEDERATE
Creatine
Downbytheseaside
Gimpanzee
Marseille
Pebble Beach
Sweet Lou
Tactical Approach

These 2 farms donated a breeding to every sire they have. Bluechip left out the big guns, Chapter Seven and Back of the neck
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: CMJAnew on November 12, 2023, 07:51:46 AM
I guess when not racing, just winter training they don't have security. Sounds strange that someone from the casino could just walk in and nobody asked who he was.

What do you know that no-one else does?
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Dave Yarock on November 12, 2023, 08:58:43 AM
On behalf of the Morris family and mine ,we wish to thank everyone who has contributed both financially,emotionally and spiritually to the victims of this barbaric event at Tioga. It shows that when the chips are down and despite our differences  horsemen rise up and help their own. God bless you all and may he look over the souls of these poor horses who died so tragically
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: PIGLAND on November 12, 2023, 01:54:27 PM
On behalf of the Morris family and mine ,we wish to thank everyone who has contributed both financially,emotionally and spiritually to the victims of this barbaric event at Tioga. It shows that when the chips are down and despite our differences  horsemen rise up and help their own. God bless you all and may he look over the souls of these poor horses who died so tragically
well said my friend
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 12, 2023, 02:30:33 PM
On behalf of the Morris family and mine ,we wish to thank everyone who has contributed both financially,emotionally and spiritually to the victims of this barbaric event at Tioga. It shows that when the chips are down and despite our differences  horsemen rise up and help their own. God bless you all and may he look over the souls of these poor horses who died so tragically

 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Brown jug on November 12, 2023, 07:22:31 PM
huge congrats to diamond creek and hanover
awesome support
Title: Re: Barn Fire At Tioga
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on November 13, 2023, 01:27:21 AM
Groom, gambler, whatever, it doesn't matter. This guy should, and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and he will be. There are people, and I don't know how and wouldn't even waste a second on why, who somehow try to defend the Surick's, Navarro's, et al, of the world. Perhaps because they simply don't light a match and burn down a barn killing horses. However, they killed horses nonetheless. Intention doesn't matter. But this isn't about them.

This is a tragic, horrible event. For the true fans of the sport, and those in the business, remember, we step up. When tragedy strikes, we absolutely do take care of our own. Money, breedings, equipment, horses, and more; people are and will continue to step up. Our thoughts and prayers are with you...and we will be there for you!
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