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Title: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 27, 2023, 10:34:01 PM
Way the best
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 27, 2023, 10:37:19 PM
Fuguzzi will never admit Dexter is still the best driver in the world.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 27, 2023, 10:39:46 PM
Fuguzzi will never admit Dexter is still the best driver in the world.

He is, Tetrick had to drive almost twice as many horses, and he has Confederate.

Scotty Z is still great in big races but Dex has had an off year until the last month or so
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: LUCPARK on October 27, 2023, 10:48:54 PM
He’s handing out driving lessons tonight

7 wins so far

Two track records and one division record

Crazy
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: LUCPARK on October 27, 2023, 10:49:54 PM
Why did Tim pull out of the two with geocentric


It’s unfortunate mistake
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: JIDGE on October 27, 2023, 10:57:31 PM
He was sitting third. It was either come early or wait and come first over.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 27, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
Anything i say in response will ignite a debate and probably an ugly debate.

Of course, Dexter Dunn is capable of an evening like this at any time. He is a top 5 driver.That was never questioned. But he did despite the earnings get off to a slow start and for many months it stayed that way. He also had very few "major wins" If I am wrong, name the majpors he won. I can name 2 dozen he lost. I still feel the top 2 drivers in the world are Tim Tetrick and Dave Miller. Tonight doesn't change that. Then you can toss a coin between Yannick, Dexter and Scotty.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 27, 2023, 11:17:50 PM
Like I said, He had an off year up until a month ago. Also he took more days off.  Yeah, he's had some bad drives like they all do. Dave Miller is great, better than Tetrick. Tetrick drove hundreds more races, He should be way ahead in purses.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 28, 2023, 12:13:49 AM
Can Yannick reach 14.5 million in purses this year? he has a real shot. What is all time purses by a driver in one year?
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 28, 2023, 12:23:36 AM
Can Yannick reach 14.5 million in purses this year? he has a real shot. What is all time purses by a driver in one year?

Yes he can.

I don't know, I was trying to look it up.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: onabrake on October 28, 2023, 12:26:21 AM
Tetrick did 15.6 million in 2019.

Leading driver..... Dunn was comotose all spring into early summer but as of tonight he is the highest money per drive earner in the country at  $ 7436 per drive, even besting Yannick at $7407 and most of his year can be classified as sleepwalking.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 28, 2023, 06:50:10 AM
Anything i say in response will ignite a debate and probably an ugly debate.

Of course, Dexter Dunn is capable of an evening like this at any time. He is a top 5 driver.That was never questioned. But he did despite the earnings get off to a slow start and for many months it stayed that way. He also had very few "major wins" If I am wrong, name the majpors he won. I can name 2 dozen he lost. I still feel the top 2 drivers in the world are Tim Tetrick and Dave Miller. Tonight doesn't change that. Then you can toss a coin between Yannick, Dexter and Scotty.





Isn't Todd McCarthy missing from your list ?
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 28, 2023, 08:53:40 AM
I have clearly stated that I continue to see Todd as a driver with upside still ahead of him. He is a 6 - 10 driver at this point.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 28, 2023, 09:01:39 AM
I have clearly stated that I continue to see Todd as a driver with upside still ahead of him. He is a 6 - 10 driver at this point.




When should we expect that "upside" to kick in?
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 28, 2023, 09:12:26 AM
." I can name 2 dozen he lost."



Idiotic epistemology.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 28, 2023, 09:19:54 AM
I think we are witnessing it now over the past several years. he certainly wasn't top ten even a few years ago. I see him as steadily improving as he continues to drive against the world's best. it's all about opportunity and there are only so many truly great or extremely good horses to drive. Most of the top ten drivers would do just as well as the next guy with all of the top horses. you could assign the list of a drivers at the very top level at random 5 minutes before the race and the results would be the same. You know that any of the top 7 or 8 would win with a Confederate, or a Karl, or a Twin b Joe Fresh, etc if they were to drive it and not the regular guy.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 28, 2023, 09:28:04 AM
You seem to be confused. Your favorite driver does not equate to the best driver. He is maybe top 30 in Norh America. Maybe. I despised John Campbell and Ron Pierce, but I acknowledge they were all time greats. I hope you surrender your condescending attitudes about Dexter simply because you don't like him.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 28, 2023, 10:13:13 AM
I have already acknowledged his talent and berth in the top 5. Isn't that acknowledging he ranks with the greats. Personally, i find him a bit distasteful in how he comes off. Many drivers have suffered from people's perceptions of them when it comes to personality. pierce for sure. Doesn't make them any less great. I understand his reasons for coming to America to drive, just a bit put off that he arrived right after being under a cloud of suspicion at home. Kinda like the way Jackie Mo and Luc suddenly "left " the business. I know Luc well and he has driven for me hundreds of times. Still not sure what the heck went on there. As for Jack, i couldn't care less.

Not sure who you are referring to as "my favorite driver". At the top level, I like Miller and Yannick above all. Most of my true favorite drivers are not competing at this level. Wally H, Jim Morrill jr, Bruce Ranger, Tony Morgan, Brett Beckwith, Kevin Switzer jr. # have won a race for me in some capacity of my involvement, 3 have not. Need 3 more pics for my collection ;D
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Mailbox Money on October 28, 2023, 01:53:12 PM
Dex knows that he is approaching the end of his season. He's gathering every acorn he can find for his vacations!🤑🤑
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 28, 2023, 02:01:07 PM
#1, he does appear to come off that way, as a Kiwi I would describe it as coming off like an Australian, there is a streak of arrogance in there

#2, Him being under a cloud a of suspicion was all bullshit.  That whole thing was a bunch of bullshit by a disgruntled POS who was a huge bettor who lost and down there if you really wanted to fix a race, you could do it in your sleep back then.  With the size of the fields, you could easily bury your horse on the fence and never see daylight or many other subtle things if you are trying to run second


Speaking of trying to run 2nd. My trotter was in a handicap race, and he was starting the race from 35 meters behind. Even though he was in the top class, they ran these races whereby if you won, you got 10 meters for the 1st win and 5 meters for each win up to a maximum of 40m. If you lost one, you were given 5 meters back for the next one. My trainer and half owner in the horse wanted to run second so he could go back to 30 meters instead of 40 meters behind.

Turning for home (the stretch is only 250 meters long, so it was like two thirds of the Big M stretch), he let him run from the furlong and he finished way too fast and ended up winning the race. LOL. Backfired when trying to cheat, LOL

It was stupid to try and not win because of a cheap handicap and he could have started 80 yards behind them and still won. Considering he was at the time the only trotter in NZ to go faster than the FFA pacers went in a race. In that race he took 4 seconds off the trotters record and .2 off the pacers record.  He actually could have done well as a pacer as his father Great Evander was a pacer who left nearly all trotters, and several were double gaited. I think he left like 161 trotters that won and like 10 pacers but when you can trot that fast, why bother, LOL


Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 28, 2023, 11:34:37 PM
Dexter returns to Earth tonight highlighted by a couple Dex like drives in defeat.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: comeonman on October 29, 2023, 12:35:39 AM
There Is not one driver in the world better than dex...maybe his equal but No one today better....and on top of that a fantastic person.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 29, 2023, 02:08:16 AM
Miller and Tetrick remain in a slightly higher echelon. Yannick, Dunn and Scotty round out the top 5. I believe Dexter drove his own horse quite poorly tonight.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: harnessplop on October 29, 2023, 03:18:02 AM
Dunn is fantastic.
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Brown jug on October 29, 2023, 08:23:21 AM
going head to head with sylvia on twin b joe fresh was a mistake and paid for it by finishing right out of it
also got away far to back on el rey
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: lost cause on October 29, 2023, 11:15:02 AM
so brown jug what was dave miller's excuse on newsroom and tci? timmy's excuse on special way and geo? stop calling out 1 race.dexter is better then miller or timmy. timmy has been slipping for a few years now.he still better then most but not the best
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: Brown jug on October 29, 2023, 11:50:35 AM
not suggesting dexter is not top notch because he is
but folks seem to be suggesting he was superman and could do no wrong
just pointing out he is human and can on occasion make the wrong call
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: harnessplop on October 29, 2023, 01:29:19 PM
Did tetrick say Dunn was the best driver these days?
Title: Re: Dexter Dunn critics should hide themselves after tonight
Post by: harnessplop on October 29, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-dexter-dunn-best-driver-sport
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