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Title: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 02:11:19 PM
Only 1 horse in the entire history of Harness Racing in NY Metro area ever rose to be a top FFA/Levy/Pacing Derby type winning horse AFTER being in $10,000 claimers out of town. Who was it! He was as tough a customer as they came in those days.


Small hint - forget anything having to do with Chicago racing
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: comeonman on October 11, 2023, 02:18:15 PM
well FIGHT THE FOE was in for 4 claimers and won the open in ny
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Harness Stats on October 11, 2023, 02:40:24 PM
Sorry Fug,  I think I knew that a long time ago, but along with a crapload of other stuff I don't remember now.  I'll make a wild guess and say Nickawampus Leroy but that's just a guess.

I did find out that Dan Patch raced in claimers before no one would race against him, and he did only time trials at the end of his career.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Babinga on October 11, 2023, 02:57:06 PM
I remember FTF and Leroy well but I’ll go with Docs Fella!
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: old guy on October 11, 2023, 03:56:04 PM
I’ll go with Fight the Foe
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: JIDGE on October 11, 2023, 04:05:21 PM
To Ri Boy or Myakka Prince. Would have said Leroy but someone already did -- loved Leroy.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on October 11, 2023, 04:27:08 PM
PH Supercam did similar recently.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 05:00:26 PM
To all contestants, it was Fight The Foe   His last claiming line was in a 10 at Liberty Bell. Rose to crush a star studded Levy field of 11 horses at RR with Merit Dokey in 1982 among other triumphs. And yes he was in even cheaper claimers too.  Thanks to all who played.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: theokodjak26 on October 11, 2023, 05:24:12 PM
I have kind of a reverse question…what trotter won the Hambletonian and wound up at smaller tracks in low level claiming races?
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: JIDGE on October 11, 2023, 05:32:04 PM
Shiaway St. Pat.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Harness Stats on October 11, 2023, 05:43:46 PM
Spider Blue Chip won a Hambo Elimination, Breeders Crown, etc and ended up a 15 to 17,500 claimer.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: old guy on October 11, 2023, 06:00:37 PM
Shiaway St. Pat.

Correct
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: theokodjak26 on October 11, 2023, 06:11:57 PM
Phil Tully and Bob Boni bought St Pat for him to solely to get him off the track. They saved the champ from any more racing abuse. When he got real old he was sent to a Michigan farm to live his final days out.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on October 11, 2023, 06:13:35 PM
What 3 year old trotter was in a claimer with a tag of $52,500 just 27 days before winning the Hambo?
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: comeonman on October 11, 2023, 06:15:15 PM
just to let you know he was in for 4k claimers with phil tafone and he took him to the top
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: JIDGE on October 11, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
Flirth?
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 06:39:26 PM
Was Phil training him when he won Opens, A levy and races at the Big M? My crazy memories tell me Luca Derrico had him for a stretch
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 06:42:43 PM
I remember being a kid in 1979 at RR in the fall and he beat a stellar field including Nickylou and Wizrad Almahurst and Rambling Willie with John Campbell who was leading driver that year for the fall meet at RR   Thrills and chills for me   It was an open pace
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: comeonman on October 11, 2023, 07:09:43 PM
He lost him to either Dave or Steve Elliot I think at the pinicle...I think...long time ago....but Phil Def. Got him to top of mountain from 4 claimers ...
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: comeonman on October 11, 2023, 07:14:21 PM
I see Luca did have him in 82
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: old guy on October 11, 2023, 08:27:56 PM
What 3 year old trotter was in a claimer with a tag of $52,500 just 27 days before winning the Hambo?

Historic Freight
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 09:02:38 PM
I see Luca did have him in 82
whew, I can hold off on the memory pills a bit longer, TY   I liked Phil Tafone. He had other successes, of course.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on October 11, 2023, 09:47:48 PM
Historic Freight
Correct. There was a rumor back then that Dave Rovine put a claim in on him but the claim ended up being voided because one of the owners wasn't licensed. Less than a month later, he wins the Hambo for Skip and Benny.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
I remember Skip Lewis at the Meadowlands riding around in blue Caddy that said HAMBO84    His barn was right across from where I worked  I was in 13B
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on October 11, 2023, 09:54:23 PM
I remember Skip Lewis at the Meadowlands riding around in blue Caddy that said HAMBO84    His barn was right across from where I worked  I was in 13B
That was him. He wasn't the friendliest guy around, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 11, 2023, 10:23:39 PM
That was him. He wasn't the friendliest guy around, that is for sure.
Being 22 years old at the time, I also remember he had a series of adorable, Swedish looking, blonde grooms, each of which had bigger tits than the next one

Didn't know much of his personality, but he did seem to "swagger"   Seems like yesterday
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: comeonman on October 11, 2023, 10:33:08 PM
Always used Benny...had that sat nite open  horse..American???? Chance?
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Harness Stats on October 12, 2023, 02:47:49 PM
To all contestants, it was Fight The Foe   His last claiming line was in a 10 at Liberty Bell. Rose to crush a star studded Levy field of 11 horses at RR with Merit Dokey in 1982 among other triumphs. And yes he was in even cheaper claimers too.  Thanks to all who played.
I'm looking for other things and came across this just now.  It's the Levy race Fugs is talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azeXNyVYJfo
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 12, 2023, 02:51:48 PM
Just watched it OMG TY!   Had a tear and a twinkle in my eye. I am in the grandstand there somewhere....... Somebody owes us all 40 years.....
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 12, 2023, 02:54:37 PM
Oh.. this one is later   I was referring to his Levy win with JC when he came for the fall meet and won like 75 races It was 79  but I appreciate seeing this one too.   FTF stayed at a high level for years   remarkable   Went with my parents and grandparents  Nathans afterwards   a great night for a 16 year old suffering with harness fever.
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 12, 2023, 05:01:16 PM
Skip Lewis was a miserable prick
Title: Re: Attn. Thorn Oldguy, Remington, Theo and all others!
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 12, 2023, 06:33:44 PM
So I guess he wasn't fooling with his harem of grooms ;D
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