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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: bello on October 05, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
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Don't worry. Not posting selections today.
Just an observation that I am taking full advantage. Someone is betting a shitload of $$$$ on Joe Chindano on horses with no shot. And on top of that the boys are not being nice to him on the track. Is he giving fase tips on himself. Or real tips because he rally thinks he has a shot with these horses?
In any event. Making Monti very lucrative.
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And again Chindano bet to 3-5 race 4 and loser
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He did go DTR from the rail with the mare/heavy favorite Sowers a couple days ago. I have no idea what's up, but I have watched him drive/he cant. May as well have Shane Taggart on your horse. Could catch on your part.
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He did go DTR from the rail with the mare/heavy favorite Sowers a couple days ago. I have no idea what's up, but I have watched him drive/he cant. May as well have Shane Taggart on your horse. Could catch on your part.
He rocks like Gagoots must have rode those women on that old screwing table at Monti...Bizzare style....talking about Chindano. Never saw Gaoggots fucking anyone other than SCM.
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And when Kyle wins 3 of first 5 you know things are weird.
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And Thanks Joe Chindano for losing on another favorite in race 6. Not sure who is betting these horses but I don't blame you. They are way overbet. Maybe you have family at the track
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He rocks like Gagoots must have rode those women on that old screwing table at Monti...Bizzare style....talking about Chindano. Never saw Gaoggots fucking anyone other than SCM.
those were the days.. Hummm I think we need another post about SCM!
I could’ve come back with a derogatory statement but I won’t.
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Don't worry. Not posting selections today.
Just an observation that I am taking full advantage. Someone is betting a shitload of $$$$ on Joe Chindano on horses with no shot. And on top of that the boys are not being nice to him on the track. Is he giving fase tips on himself. Or real tips because he rally thinks he has a shot with these horses?
In any event. Making Monti very lucrative.
ITS CALLED MONEY LAUNDERING. THEY ARE DOING IT AT EVERY TRACK.
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LAW AND ORDER..
can you describe the money laundering thing again...where you deliberately lose on a big wager.
Is this something someone who lists his admitted taxform occupation as: 'professional gamber' does???
Or something else?
Thanks in advance.
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LAW AND ORDER..
can you describe the money laundering thing again...where you deliberately lose on a big wager.
Is this something someone who lists his admitted taxform occupation as: 'professional gamber' does???
Or something else?
Thanks in advance.
THE STARTING MONEY IS ILLEGALLY OBTAIN POSSIBLY THROUGH DRUG SALES OR SOME OTHER UNDER THE TABLE TYPE OF WAY. THEY TAKE THE ILLEGAL MONEY TO A CASINO/RACETRACK OR WHEREVER THEY CAN WASH IT EVEN IF THEY LOSE, IT JUST DOEDSNT MATTER. IF THEY WIN, THEY WILL NOW HAVE CLEAN CASH. ALMOST LIKE TAKING COUNTERFIET MONEY AND BUYING SOMETHING AT A GROCERY STORE AND GETTING BACK REAL MONEY FOR YOUR CHANGE. I HOPE YOU NOW UNDERSTAND. AS THEY ALWAYS SAY JUSR FOLLOW THE MONEY............ .................
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LAW AND ORDER..
can you describe the money laundering thing again...where you deliberately lose on a big wager.
Is this something someone who lists his admitted taxform occupation as: 'professional gamber' does???
Or something else?
Thanks in advance.
Well money laundering is by its very description when you make bad money good, like when a caporegime like Michael Franzese owned several legitimate and profitable car dealerships and restaurants. Seems bizarre to make big best in racing into small pools to "launder money", doesn't it? I guess anything is possible.
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Well money laundering is by its very description when you make bad money good, like when a caporegime like Michael Franzese owned several legitimate and profitable car dealerships and restaurants. Seems bizarre to make big best in racing into small pools to "launder money", doesn't it? I guess anything is possible.
I PARTIALLY AGREE WITH YOU BUT ITS HARDER AND HARDER TODAY TO LAUNDER MONEY. JUST THINK ABOUT THIS LOGICALLY. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MOND WHO HAS BIG MONEY LIKE THESE BETTORS AT MONTICELLO AND OTHER HARNESS TRACKS WOULD BET 10-20K TO SHOW KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THERE IS A MUCH SAFER WAY TO RISK MONEY LIKE THAT IF THE MONEY WAS CLEAN? THERE IS NOT ONE HUMAN BEING DUMB ENOUGH TO WANT TO BET THAT KIND OF MONEY ON HARNESS RACING TODAY FOR THAT TYPE OF RISK VERSUS REWARD. MOMMA ALWAYS TAUGHT ME THAT IF SOMETHING DOESNT SEEM RIGHT, THERE HAS TO BE SOME DECEPTION IN IT SOMEWHERE! TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN.
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I PARTIALLY AGREE WITH YOU BUT ITS HARDER AND HARDER TODAY TO LAUNDER MONEY. JUST THINK ABOUT THIS LOGICALLY. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MOND WHO HAS BIG MONEY LIKE THESE BETTORS AT MONTICELLO AND OTHER HARNESS TRACKS WOULD BET 10-20K TO SHOW KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THERE IS A MUCH SAFER WAY TO RISK MONEY LIKE THAT IF THE MONEY WAS CLEAN? THERE IS NOT ONE HUMAN BEING DUMB ENOUGH TO WANT TO BET THAT KIND OF MONEY ON HARNESS RACING TODAY FOR THAT TYPE OF RISK VERSUS REWARD
Certainly not arguing with you and i agree with what you said, whole thing is downright weird. Yes, lol, hard to imagine anyone in their right mind
Btw, do you remember at YR, there was a regular known to Rooney and Galterio who went on a spree of bridge jumping? Suddenly HUGE show bets were showing up nightly, Seriously like 50 and 100k. Racetrack regulars were calling him the Plunger for obvious reasons and he was betting the money on track. It was the 80s and he dressed like a guy in the 40s complete suit with fedora, looked like Bud Abbott.. Then suddenly it stopped as fast as it started. Hudson river maybe??
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I will make laundering money easy to understand..happe ns with sports betting alot...like tonight bears vs Washington..you come in and bet 110 k on Washington minds points to win 100 k..you also bet 110k on bears to win 100k...so on the bet you lose 10k....but you now can take the winning 100k and but it in bank....how did you get it...I won on game...money is now clean...
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I will make laundering money easy to understand..happe ns with sports betting alot...like tonight bears vs Washington..you come in and bet 110 k on Washington minds points to win 100 k..you also bet 110k on bears to win 100k...so on the bet you lose 10k....but you now can take the winning 100k and but it in bank....how did you get it...I won on game...money is now clean...
THANKS FOR THAT. WAY EASIER AND BETTER THAN MY EXPLANATION!! tmbz1
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OK. Some years ago my good friend was a marketin research expert. He had a close friend that worked with him. His buddy decided that there a better way to make moola. He moved to colorado and bought some remote acreas in the mountains. HE grew pot. So's one day he comes back to CHICAGO and wanted to wash $100.00 bills. He asked me buddy to help him. This was the PLAN. Go to track and all different OTB'S and make bets on different races for a hondo each about 10 minutes before each race. They was usin machines. Then with about 5 minutes to post go and cancel the bet and get a $100.00 voucher. At ARLINGTON race course this was easy as you had about 80 different tellers. But they did it for 2 days and ARLINGTON got wise and had them on camera. So on a MONDAY at downstaires trackside bar I'm sittin with me bud. In walks FBI, STATE POLICE and ARLINGTON HEIGHTS POLICE. They takes me bud away. They question me and say you know him. I say's never met him. Just enjoyin a brew and he happened to be sittin next to me. 2 days later me bud MATT shows uo at bar. I says what happened. He goes: I LIED MY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING. END OF STORY.
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I will make laundering money easy to understand..happe ns with sports betting alot...like tonight bears vs Washington..you come in and bet 110 k on Washington minds points to win 100 k..you also bet 110k on bears to win 100k...so on the bet you lose 10k....but you now can take the winning 100k and but it in bank....how did you get it...I won on game...money is now clean...
I've been audited alot, they always want to know where your original bet came from. If you can't claim where it was originating from TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE, and you are the one responsible for providing a clean money trail.
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I will make laundering money easy to understand..happe ns with sports betting alot...like tonight bears vs Washington..you come in and bet 110 k on Washington minds points to win 100 k..you also bet 110k on bears to win 100k...so on the bet you lose 10k....but you now can take the winning 100k and but it in bank....how did you get it...I won on game...money is now clean...
Respectfully, i dont see how your plan works so "easily" because ultimately you have to explain where the intial seed money came from, plus those kinds of wagers at a sportsbook immediately puts you on the radar of the casino and a half dozen more agencies including, NFL and MLB police/security.
Money laundering is usually done with dummy corporations. Still, you may be right this may be a form of that
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Ok. Gezz
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Respectfully, i dont see how your plan works so "easily" because ultimately you have to explain where the intial seed money came from, plus those kinds of wagers at a sportsbook immediately puts you on the radar of the casino and a half dozen more agencies including, NFL and MLB police/security.
Money laundering is usually done with dummy corporations. Still, you may be right this may be a form of that
NEVER EVER BET IN LARGE INCREMENTS AND ONLY CASH A LITTLE AT A TIME. ANY MOVES OVER A FEW THOUSAND TODAY DRAW UNWATED ATTENTION.
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NEVER EVER BET IN LARGE INCREMENTS AND ONLY CASH A LITTLE AT A TIME. ANY MOVES OVER A FEW THOUSAND TODAY DRAW UNWATED ATTENTION.
Gotcha! You are Smart! That's how you would avoid what I was saying.
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Appreciate all the feedback but I don't think laundering at Monti is in the cards here. Handle way too low.
Now there has been some board manipulation going on. Today at the meadows for instance in race 7 1,000 was in the win pool on two horses that had no shot. Came out just before post time.
I am thinking at Monti today it was likely Chindano telling a friend he felt he was live today. And you know how the telephone game works.
This is he did not have a horse with a shot. But he may very well be a bad handicapper. I just hope they keep it up next week.
There has also been a slew of really bad favorites in PA this week. Almost like someone hit the lottery and knows nothing about harness racing and is sending it in.
Who knows. I just hope it keeps up
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If you are smart there is no reason to launder money unless you are talking millions and you want to invest it in the stock market.
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Lets just say I know a guy who knows a guy and he told me the best way to launder money is through car dealerships. That is all I am saying about that.
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Agree that is a great way to do it.
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Lets just say I know a guy who knows a guy and he told me the best way to launder money is through car dealerships. That is all I am saying about that.
That's what I was saying about Michael Franzese. Lotsa mob affiliated dealerships in the Metro Ny area.
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I will make laundering money easy to understand..happe ns with sports betting alot...like tonight bears vs Washington..you come in and bet 110 k on Washington minds points to win 100 k..you also bet 110k on bears to win 100k...so on the bet you lose 10k....but you now can take the winning 100k and but it in bank....how did you get it...I won on game...money is now clean...
It goes on at the Meadowlands. Couple of those guys in the 1st floor teletheatre are obviously money laundering.
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Tell the FBI then. tmbz1
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I ain’t sure if it’s money laundering or not but something ain’t smelling right. Definitely some kind of scam going on just haven’t figured it out yet.
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Well money laundering is by its very description when you make bad money good, like when a caporegime like Michael Franzese owned several legitimate and profitable car dealerships and restaurants. Seems bizarre to make big best in racing into small pools to "launder money", doesn't it? I guess anything is possible.
Im with you, odd (though guess possible) way to launder money. Could be the three stooges mob family. I heard about that nyc mob family. Theres the gambinos, luchesses, genovese, colombos and bonnanos. Those are the infamous and justifiably feared nyc renowned families. Theres also a little known deranged wannaba 6th family - the three stooges. This could be that group's attempt at laundering $. Nyuk nyuk nyuk..Certainly.