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Title: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 30, 2023, 09:39:57 PM
Jimmy in his prime doesn't hold a candle to this guy. He might drive like shit but they know how to train them.

Just my opinion but he even outdoes Melander
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: seen2much on September 30, 2023, 09:43:15 PM
Jimmy in his prime doesn't hold a candle to this guy. He might drive like shit but they know how to train them.

Just my opinion but he even outdoes Melander
I would agree with that. Randy Waples pointed out his horses don't wear much equipment.
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: The Thorn on September 30, 2023, 10:04:37 PM
Melander had one good year.  He underperforms considering how much money is thrown at him with high priced yearlings.  No one is a match for Ake.  Lucas Wallin is the next best thing other than Nancy, and Burke for older trotters
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: Brown jug on September 30, 2023, 10:10:01 PM
there can be no argument
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 30, 2023, 10:12:45 PM
It's amazing. A lot of his top trotters like Sebastian K, Ecurie D and Alrajah One have minimal action in front. I hate trotters with that high looping front action, it seems to me it's wasted. In yet Creatine as an example was high stepping and he could tramp a quarter from memory.

Sebastian K and Captain Corey even more so had that daisy cutter action. Alrajah One I think tramped a final Quarter last year at the Big M in like 25.3 from memory. They can fly.

Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: horses first on October 01, 2023, 12:05:06 AM
Jimmy in his prime doesn't hold a candle to this guy. He might drive like shit but they know how to train them.

Just my opinion but he even outdoes Melander

Totally agree
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: Mailbox Money on October 01, 2023, 12:23:25 AM
I would agree with that. Randy Waples pointed out his horses don't wear much equipment.
The trot is a natural gait,  but alot of trainers force them away from it by not understanding the physics involved. I saw a guy that had a young trotter with 5/8 half rounds, 3oz toe weights and 2pr.of ribbed bell boots and his head checked so high that if it rained,he would drown. He makes about 3 breaks going a mile in 25,comes off and wants to borrow ANOTHER set of bell boots!  ngc3
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: Locked in with pace on October 01, 2023, 06:41:08 AM
And do you know who Lucas Wallin worked for when he came to the States?  Yup! AKE
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: Fuguzzi on October 01, 2023, 08:05:26 AM
It's amazing. A lot of his top trotters like Sebastian K, Ecurie D and Alrajah One have minimal action in front. I hate trotters with that high looping front action, it seems to me it's wasted. In yet Creatine as an example was high stepping and he could tramp a quarter from memory.

Sebastian K and Captain Corey even more so had that daisy cutter action. Alrajah One I think tramped a final Quarter last year at the Big M in like 25.3 from memory. They can fly.
Trotters should "roll high" at the knee, but I agree that it should not be too high. Just at tip of shoulder, maybe 2 inches past is prime.
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt is a class above the others in training a trotter
Post by: hoosierboy on October 01, 2023, 08:30:05 AM
Melander had one good year.  He underperforms considering how much money is thrown at him with high priced yearlings.  No one is a match for Ake.  Lucas Wallin is the next best thing other than Nancy, and Burke for older trotters

Lucan wallin worked for Ake.  Let’s not forget about Jimmy Campbell
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