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Title: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: winky on September 26, 2023, 03:54:14 PM
Alot of ideas have been set forth about how to save Harness Racing

and here is a possiblity...alth ough a longshot...


To bring the younger crowd in....how about....


A  "Cannabis Bar"  offered  high quality  Pre Rolled Marijuana

cigs along with an upscale bar with a DJ?

At Monticello "The Purple Room" was a big hit wat back when..

You have to change with the times...and this would be cutting edge.

And of course betting windows in the "enclosed area" so

the rest of the crowd (if any) don't get super stoned.

Whadeya think?

At least I am out there swingin the bat.....No?
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 26, 2023, 04:10:31 PM
Alot of ideas have been set forth about how to save Harness Racing

and here is a possiblity...alth ough a longshot...


To bring the younger crowd in....how about....


A  "Cannabis Bar"  offered  high quality  Pre Rolled Marijuana

cigs along with an upscale bar with a DJ?

At Monticello "The Purple Room" was a big hit wat back when..

You have to change with the times...and this would be cutting edge.

And of course betting windows in the "enclosed area" so

the rest of the crowd (if any) don't get super stoned.

Whadeya think?

At least I am out there swingin the bat.....No?

Why not. Thinking outside the box can only help. It is worth a try.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: winky on September 26, 2023, 04:14:53 PM
and right next door ...a food court..so when they get hungry

they are covered...

and free food with every say $100 bucks worth of losing tix


$500 losing tix gets a nice dinner..


sort of ala Las Vegas...

The PR that the tracks offer was for the 1960's..

This is 2023       new ballgame....
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: theokodjak26 on September 26, 2023, 04:25:02 PM
Forgive me for peeing in my pants from laughter and here is why…

1. I don’t totally dislike the let’s smoke some pot idea but it is not legal in many states. However a lot going on in harness racing is illegal so what the heck.

2. Have you been to Monticello Shitway in recent years? They barely have a bathroom no less a special purple room. No grandstand, no food, no people but occasionally toilet paper just off their disgraceful simulcast room.

I wish I had your enthusiasm to save harness racing. It has been in the gutter for so many years I fear the sport is on death’s door.When the basic ingredients of honesty and fair play are regularly violated and published on a the Internet, why would young people have any interest?
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 04:25:21 PM
Ok, so drag queens and drugs. Perfect.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: winky on September 26, 2023, 04:31:27 PM
If say 30 years ago they told you there would be gambling casinos

all over the east coast and pot would be legal...

what would you have said...?


I know I said ..No way....

and here we are..

so ..never say never..as outlandish as it may seem.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 04:35:12 PM
No gambling value left anymore, 98% of the press is negative, the rest doesn't exist, myriad ways for the young gambler to get his bang for the buck with action that is quicker, holds better value, is easier to understand, has participants that people can identify with and wear their jerseys, archaic marketing, the appearance that the drivers "hold back " or there isn't enough room for the sulkies even when they are trying as in boxed, shuffled, etc. programs that a novice cant make sense of. Many horrible facilities. Forget national coverage, virtually no local coverage anymore, as in city papers that devote about 4 square inches to entries and results. No lobbying agents for the sport at the national level. Conflicting schedules track to track. See Chester on HOF day. And worst of all a dying demographic. Show me how Cannabis and drag queens help these problems.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 04:39:15 PM
If say 30 years ago they told you there would be gambling casinos

all over the east coast and pot would be legal...

what would you have said...?


I know I said ..No way....

and here we are..

so ..never say never..as outlandish as it may seem.
As for pot, who cares. that shit is for losers. As for casinos, in the early 90s I was saying to anyone who would listen the tracks have to get casinos or we will be gone in a decade. We ( horsepeople/industry ) went about it in all the wrong ways.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: bello on September 26, 2023, 04:43:06 PM
I had a cannabis room at Monti. It was behind the old iron grandstands, long since removeed.. And believe me, I was not the only one..

I have also been to scores of tracks in my lifetime, and I walked into 90%  stoned. And I am an old timer.

Handle will surely increase and if the Cannabis Room bring in the young ladies, I will be there in a heartbeat!

Great idea Winky.. Much better than drag queens.

HeY Dougie....get John Manzi out of retirement for one last promotion. An Old Timers Day for us old Monti stoners.

Fugazzi or Generation XYZ can bring the women!

Now I need to go back and root for the 4 to complete my Cold Punch  24 DD

Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 04:49:19 PM
My wife will be the one with the pineapple in her hand. Good Luck buddy!
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: bello on September 26, 2023, 04:56:58 PM
Pineapple Express Good Shit
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Kirbys Ace on September 26, 2023, 05:14:37 PM
Bottom line is this younger crowd want fast-paced excitement, not boring line up racing that has a reputation for drugs and cheats.

One reason sports betting is up, and video game sales/downloads are in.

It's doomed my friend doomed..The lottery and the casinos with action everywhere alone with sports betting have taken the fans out of the stands and they're not coming back!

But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: bello on September 26, 2023, 05:31:12 PM
If you get people through the door they will bet. And I don't mean getting them into the casino.

A few years ago Colonial Downs had live music and a micrro brew day. The place was packed with young people and dyes, they ere drunk and betting. Vices go hand in hand.

I was also at Houston Race track on a Saturday Night and they had a somewhat famous country bad there for a concert. Place was packed, people drinking, gambling and listening to music.

The reason it doesn't occur anymore is racing is a red haired unwanted step child the racino owners would prefer go away.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: SwankToliverA on September 26, 2023, 05:34:50 PM
Fug- a little swing action there? 😜
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: SwankToliverA on September 26, 2023, 05:40:09 PM
Winky, I like the idea. I do believe that it would draw in new bettors. It's like the EZ bet location's for OTB- a lot of ppl at the bar who don't bet horses, do bet while they are there. (At least where I'm at)
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Frank the Zipper on September 26, 2023, 05:57:39 PM
Live music & concerts draw the younger crowd. I've seen it at many tracks.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: okdfool on September 26, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
Alot of ideas have been set forth about how to save Harness Racing

and here is a possiblity...alth ough a longshot...


To bring the younger crowd in....how about....


A  "Cannabis Bar"  offered  high quality  Pre Rolled Marijuana

cigs along with an upscale bar with a DJ?

At Monticello "The Purple Room" was a big hit wat back when..

You have to change with the times...and this would be cutting edge.

And of course betting windows in the "enclosed area" so

the rest of the crowd (if any) don't get super stoned.

Whadeya think?

At least I am out there swingin the bat.....No?


WEED BAR!?  Now thats a great idea, every tine a horse gets a CBD pisitive it an beblamed on the spectarers gettingtgeir free dinner! I hearcit now, 'they spit on the track' they pissed on the track' 🙄🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Harness Stats on September 26, 2023, 08:03:59 PM
CBD positive ?  I think you mean THC.  Is CBD even illegal and on a list for horses? What would they use it for? Don't do shit to humans unless you have epilepsy or want to go to sleep.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 26, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
Alot of ideas have been set forth about how to save Harness Racing

and here is a possiblity...alth ough a longshot...


To bring the younger crowd in....how about....


A  "Cannabis Bar"  offered  high quality  Pre Rolled Marijuana

cigs along with an upscale bar with a DJ?

At Monticello "The Purple Room" was a big hit wat back when..

You have to change with the times...and this would be cutting edge.

And of course betting windows in the "enclosed area" so

the rest of the crowd (if any) don't get super stoned.

Whadeya think?

At least I am out there swingin the bat.....No?

GREAT I DEA, except at Monti. try meadowlans where DRAG Queens and Settlemnoir hang...
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 09:49:06 PM
Fug- a little swing action there? 😜
For 26 happy years, bro! can't watch predetermined harness racing every night.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Gaagoots on September 26, 2023, 10:10:48 PM
As for pot, who cares. that shit is for losers. As for casinos, in the early 90s I was saying to anyone who would listen the tracks have to get casinos or we will be gone in a decade. We ( horsepeople/industry ) went about it in all the wrong ways.
I couldn’t agree more fug…. Drag queens and pot now they’re gonna do a lot of gambling!

I’m totally against cannabis never smoked a joint have no use for it. It’s a gateway drug. The drag queens should stick to themselves and suck one another’s cocks! I like to see the percentage of them that have aids!

The last time I was at that class facility it was a colored guy out in the parking lot taking a deuce in between cars! Lovely

Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 10:25:04 PM
I couldn’t agree more fug…. Drag queens and pot now they’re gonna do a lot of gambling!

I’m totally against cannabis never smoked a joint have no use for it. It’s a gateway drug. The drag queens should stick to themselves and suck one another’s cocks! I like to see the percentage of them that have aids!

The last time I was at that class facility it was a colored guy out in the parking lot taking a deuce in between cars! Lovely
We are peas in a pod, my friend. I never smoked a joint in my life and touched a serious drug in my life. Yes, it is a gateway drug. never understood the need to get high, Get high on life people.   

Parking lot thing turned my stomach. Good God
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: winky on September 26, 2023, 11:06:34 PM
Maybe thats it...

You guys should dump the booze and lite up a spliff...

and dont knock it if you havent tried it...

Cannibas has been around for 10,000 years..nothing new here.

Gateway Drug?   

Alcoholics 100x worse than midnite tokers.

Cannabas actually has tremendous medicinal properties.

Don't take my word for it..research it..

they have a new thing on the Internet....it's called Google.

thats your homework assignment..

test on Friday.

Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 26, 2023, 11:11:48 PM
Being a grown up can be fun. Join us. Btw, I do not drink either.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: winky on September 26, 2023, 11:45:17 PM
You donot drink or smoke reefer...


and this ...you are advertising?
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Gaagoots on September 26, 2023, 11:59:38 PM
Being a grown up can be fun. Join us. Btw, I do not drink either.
that makes 2 of us. No drugs or drinking. Now pussy that’s a whole different story.😂😂
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 27, 2023, 12:15:31 AM
that makes 2 of us. No drugs or drinking. Now pussy that’s a whole different story.😂😂
True!  Fun to go fishing for grapes in there.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 27, 2023, 06:22:30 AM
I’m in let’s fire one up
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: kooter for hipin on September 27, 2023, 10:21:46 PM
Pineapple Express Good Shit

Bello, remember you from "Lightenin' Lane".  Good handicapper if that is possible.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Mazola on September 27, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
I've been smoking weed for almost 55 years tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 27, 2023, 10:40:06 PM
I've been smoking weed for almost 55 years tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Cat scan of your brain might look like our cat's litterbox at this point....
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Mazola on September 27, 2023, 10:59:52 PM
Cat scan of your brain might look like our cat's litterbox at this point....

Scans are all good. tmbz1
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 27, 2023, 11:12:32 PM
Scans are all good. tmbz1
good. Happy for your health.  Most important thing tmbz1
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Bitter Truth on September 28, 2023, 09:33:34 AM
'Gateway drug'  ngc3 Thx Ronald and Nancy for that public service announcement tmbz1
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Harness Stats on September 28, 2023, 11:22:27 AM
Cannabis is not "the" gateway drug.  How about Nicotine and Alcohol? Not to mention mosts everybody's go to Caffiene. If cannabis is so bad for you then why does the human body have cannabinoid receptors all over the body?

The endocannabinoid system (ECS) comprises a vast network of chemical signals and cellular receptors that are densely packed throughout our brains and bodies. The “cannabinoid” receptors in the brain — the CB1 receptors — outnumber many of the other receptor types on the brain. They act like traffic cops to control the levels and activity of most of the other neurotransmitters . A second type of cannabinoid receptor, the CB2 receptor, exists mostly in our immune tissues. It’s important to note that these receptors are numerous and play significant roles in our bodily functions.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 28, 2023, 12:57:12 PM
Cannabis is not "the" gateway drug.  How about Nicotine and Alcohol? Not to mention mosts everybody's go to Caffiene. If cannabis is so bad for you then why does the human body have cannabinoid receptors all over the body?

The endocannabinoid system (ECS) comprises a vast network of chemical signals and cellular receptors that are densely packed throughout our brains and bodies. The “cannabinoid” receptors in the brain — the CB1 receptors — outnumber many of the other receptor types on the brain. They act like traffic cops to control the levels and activity of most of the other neurotransmitters . A second type of cannabinoid receptor, the CB2 receptor, exists mostly in our immune tissues. It’s important to note that these receptors are numerous and play significant roles in our bodily functions.
Goona start calling Thorn, The Chemist
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Harness Stats on September 28, 2023, 01:08:29 PM
Hell no, I never even had one of those Gilbert Chemistry Sets.  Just know a little about a lot of stuff.  Variety and all.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 28, 2023, 01:22:48 PM
 tmbz1
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: bello on September 28, 2023, 01:53:36 PM
Goona start calling Thorn, The Chemist

Must be a trainer!
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on September 28, 2023, 04:34:50 PM
I HAVE A GOOD IDEA AT HAWTHORNE THEY COULD SET UP A SHOOTING RANGE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE GRANDSTAND AND ALLOW THE 100 PEOPLE OR SO IN ATTENDANCE TO BRING THE THIER OWN FIREARM THEY ARE PACKING FOR TARGET PRACTICE. THEY CAN RE-DEMO THE ENTIRE GROUND FLOOR TO LOOK LIKE THE HOOD OUTSIDE ON CICERO AVENUE COMPLETE WITH THE MEXICANS AND BLACKS SELLING CRACK AND HOES SELLING THEIR ASSES. ITS A GREAT ATTRACTION FOR THE YOUNGER CROWD AND THEY CAN EVEN ALLOW PLAYERS CARDS WITH THE GANG MEMBERS LOGO ON IT AND USE PLAYER POINTS FOR FREE AMMUNITION AT THE GUN RANGE OR APPLY THE PLAYER POINTS TOWARD BLOW JOBS FROM THE HOOKERS IN THE CLUBHOUSE BATHROOM. FOR SURE YOU WOULD BRING IN THE OUTSIDE CROWD AT HAWTHORNE BACK INSIDE FOR A FUN EVENING AT THE RACES.
Title: Re: OK Maybe not a great idea but hear me out
Post by: Balmoral buzz on September 28, 2023, 07:00:28 PM
I HAVE A GOOD IDEA AT HAWTHORNE THEY COULD SET UP A SHOOTING RANGE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE GRANDSTAND AND ALLOW THE 100 PEOPLE OR SO IN ATTENDANCE TO BRING THE THIER OWN FIREARM THEY ARE PACKING FOR TARGET PRACTICE. THEY CAN RE-DEMO THE ENTIRE GROUND FLOOR TO LOOK LIKE THE HOOD OUTSIDE ON CICERO AVENUE COMPLETE WITH THE MEXICANS AND BLACKS SELLING CRACK AND HOES SELLING THEIR ASSES. ITS A GREAT ATTRACTION FOR THE YOUNGER CROWD AND THEY CAN EVEN ALLOW PLAYERS CARDS WITH THE GANG MEMBERS LOGO ON IT AND USE PLAYER POINTS FOR FREE AMMUNITION AT THE GUN RANGE OR APPLY THE PLAYER POINTS TOWARD BLOW JOBS FROM THE HOOKERS IN THE CLUBHOUSE BATHROOM. FOR SURE YOU WOULD BRING IN THE OUTSIDE CROWD AT HAWTHORNE BACK INSIDE FOR A FUN EVENING AT THE RACES.
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