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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: theokodjak26 on September 15, 2023, 05:24:06 PM
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Talk about an ancient USTA rule where drivers get fined for talking on the racetrack.Why is this perceived as a big enough violation to cost a driver $100? Do the judges think this looks bad in the public’s eyes? Nowadays I really doubt anyone cares. These guys talk to each other in the paddock. They travel together during stakes season. Does the USTA thinks the drivers are cheating and are first choreographing their bad deeds on the racetrack? Really? End this dumb violation or tell me what I am missing.
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Sometimes the script changes late...and sometimes you wanna make sure everybody knows Thier Role....
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Talk about an ancient USTA rule where drivers get fined for talking on the racetrack.Why is this perceived as a big enough violation to cost a driver $100? Do the judges think this looks bad in the public’s eyes? Nowadays I really doubt anyone cares. These guys talk to each other in the paddock. They travel together during stakes season. Does the USTA thinks the drivers are cheating and are first choreographing their bad deeds on the racetrack? Really? End this dumb violation or tell me what I am missing.
It should be ended. But I remember a time when it was enforced strictly, well pretty strictly. i remember fines for this infraction.
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I saw Brian Sears got fined in today’s listing on USTA. You think this multi-millionaire is fixing a race and talking about it on at Yonkers Raceway?
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No I don't LOL One of the best ever to grab a hold, but something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. Purely from a distance I admit. I never checked a horse up for him in my life.
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It's as stupid penalty! Believe me any serious talking was done way before they went out in post parade!
tmbz1
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i am sure their is nothing nefarious going on
however it is a bad look overall
as you say they see each other all the time so can they not go 5 minutes on the track without talking
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Reminds me of the days of Jimmy Marohn and Ted Wing signaling. Left leg down/right leg down.
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I mean it is so ridiculous that big purse successful drivers would be talking about fixing a race. They are probably asking each other their opinions on whether or not to sell their Microsoft or Tesla stocks or how they are playing their Cryptocurrency situations.
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It is like fining Rory Mcilroy for talking to Justin Thomas for talking while strolling down the fairway on their way to their next shots. Total stupidity.
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actually you would be amazed how little most golfers talk during a round
and even so they have no impact on one another , just playing their own ball
however you are not allowed to ask another golfer what club he hit just as a comparison , that would be seen as unfair to all the other golfer sin the field
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If you get close to where they are gathering before they go to the gate. You will learn they are talking about last night’s game or the blond in the paddock. But it does look bad on TV to the degenerate gamblers that blame everything else when they lose
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If you get close to where they are gathering before they go to the gate. You will learn they are talking about last night’s game or the blond in the paddock. But it does look bad on TV to the degenerate gamblers that blame everything else when they lose
Just remember, in the legendary triple race at YR that got many drivers long suspensions, got Lachance kicked out for good and effectively ended Leo Bauer's career. it was Henri Fion the ringleader, who drove alongside each driver telling him the triple including Leo who testified Henri told him to go down the road, told him the triple number straight and said he would be taken care of. A very and look for racing the judges will tell you a perfect example of why the rule should be in place. That was my hayday and while I had nothing to do with the race, I was in the paddock that night and lets just say when the the triple came back $197 for $3 it made for an interesting atmosphere. ngc3
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actually you would be amazed how little most golfers talk during a round
and even so they have no impact on one another , just playing their own ball
however you are not allowed to ask another golfer what club he hit just as a comparison , that would be seen as unfair to all the other golfer sin the field
To the contrary, I watch golf a lot & i'm amazed just how much they talk & how friendly these pro golfers are with one another during their rounds. As far as what club they are using, I'm guessing these pros can tell just by looking at the degree of the club what number is being used & is there not betting on pro golf on many gambling sites?
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I suppose what ai don’t understand is how much talking I see in warm-ups and fines are not handed out. Yet regularly they’re drivers that do get fined. Are the judges reading lips or is this another selective enforcement situation?
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I suppose what ai don’t understand is how much talking I see in warm-ups and fines are not handed out. Yet regularly they’re drivers that do get fined. Are the judges reading lips or is this another selective enforcement situation?
most of the chit-chat that I see is immediately after the finish line. It's just human nature to be revved up down the stretch and if you win ... being xcited and- if you lose, giving a buddy an atta-boy or a dagnabit.
now, some of the big time drivers likely believe it's not a big deal to flip a hundo for the fun of yik-yak ... on the other hand, some of the guys that rarely get a drive are perhaps caught up in the adrenaline of racing only once or twice a night. Likely not a good spend to pay a hundred dollars to say, 'Way to go'- to one of the big time drivers.
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I was told it was about the optics from the grandstand, when I got my 50.00 fine in the 60's. Maybe they noticed that nobody is in the grandstands anymore. Just tell the camera people not to film people talking.
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Sources found out that the Meadowlands is putting partitions up in the driver's lounge so there can be no planning for the later races. Plus talking on the racetrack fines will be doubled. management wants total integrity on and off the track
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Total integrity with partitions at the Meadowlands, really? I guess Jason and Jeff never heard of text messaging, runners, email or carrier pigeon for that matter? They should worry more about the optics their drag queen show will lead to. I’m sure a lot of parents will be keeping their younger kids away from the new “Birdcage”.