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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: TimTimTimbo on September 08, 2023, 11:13:09 PM
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For winning with Tactical Mounds.
Some people wondered why he bought a shitload of Tactical Landing's. They are doing what daddy did and getting better with age. Many morons thought that because Big sister Mission Brief was a rocket at two than he would light it up as a stud at two. She was built like a thoroughbred and him like a tank and he got better and better as a late 3yo.
Tactical Mounds won from the 10 hole Hambo day and again today. Scotty has no problem drawing out there as hje knows how to drive when the money is up.
AMAC had a good day, I think 3 of the 8 he had running won and Austral Hanover who he sold to Paul Kelley won a $40,000 race at The Meadows with Twaddle Still training and AMAC driving
Ron Burke won with one of them owned by the Stable, He has won like 3 with J K Victory after AMAC sent him back to Burke stable from where they purchased him from.
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So, Burke has the half brother who hasn't done much yet by Swan for All ( Mounds for All), He has the other Swan for All that The Stable has in Mel Gibswan (10,000 yearling) who has won over 80,000 with only 1 win, 3 2nds, and 3 3rds, both racing in Indiana and according to AMAC on a video i was watching, he said Burke likes the half brother to her quite a bit. Time will tell.
Might have to stick some $$$ on the nose soon and take a gamble.
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please report back on some of the 50 yearlings that have not made $10,000 yet
not wishing anyone any ill will but you seem to be cherry picking the high spots
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please report back on some of the 50 yearlings that have not made $10,000 yet
not wishing anyone any ill will but you seem to be cherry picking the high spots
First off, I don't have any shares of any horses there. I just like to see people in fractional ownership do well. Yeah, I am sure many have not made it yet. I know at least 35 of them have had at least one race and many have earned a check
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timbo, thanks for clarifying
and yes i want to see as many people do well as possible, especially fractional groups as hopefully many of those people will get more involved and support the industry
however making a start or taking a maiden win does not qualify as a success from a financial perspective
and that does not just apply to fractional groups but the industry as a whole
however we know that for many deep pocket owners it is just a hobby and the $ are not critical
however in fractional groups if people go a few horses and or a few years with no success they generally bail
just my thoughts
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timbo, thanks for clarifying
and yes i want to see as many people do well as possible, especially fractional groups as hopefully many of those people will get more involved and support the industry
however making a start or taking a maiden win does not qualify as a success from a financial perspective
and that does not just apply to fractional groups but the industry as a whole
however we know that for many deep pocket owners it is just a hobby and the $ are not critical
however in fractional groups if people go a few horses and or a few years with no success they generally bail
just my thoughts
I agree with everything you said. It is hard to make money but if people own a small p[art and they get a few wins here and there, I am sure most would give up a few $$$ to get the thrill.
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Stable had a number of horses in OH sires finals tonight. The ones entered racing for 1.1Mln in those purses cashed in on a 4th going for 100k and 5th for 300k. 27,500 minus 10% and assuming starting fees for those 7 horses he is lucky he can start his video to the owners with a NJ classic win over the weekend. Thing about horse racing with the highs and lows. When does Jason McGinnis start his suspension or is it under a stay?
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Anybody notice that when any of the stables horses do anything in a big race Amac is in a different area code. Also does any one care to mention how any of those purchases over $50K from Ongait are doing. invest 1% and get to pay for 100% of Amac's retirement fund.
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Anybody notice that when any of the stables horses do anything in a big race Amac is in a different area code. Also does any one care to mention how any of those purchases over $50K from Ongait are doing. invest 1% and get to pay for 100% of Amac's retirement fund.
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I don’t care for AMac at all but he is exposing a ton of people to the sport. Again tell me how many of you are willing to work 60+ hours a week and travel constantly for free??? Owning racehorses is a hobby not an investment. Use what $$ you can and enjoy. 20 years from now those people will look at the win pics and remember that day. I guarantee 99% won’t be able to tell you what they did with the purse money
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Has he moved his family to Cleveland.
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actually he has been winning at the meadows and had a big few days at delaware
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Has he moved his family to Cleveland.
He rents a house just south of Northfield. At times other guys from Canada use the place when they're in the area if he's not using it. Actually, he's had overall a very good year of racing.
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He rents a house just south of Northfield. At times other guys from Canada use the place when they're in the area if he's not using it. Actually, he's had overall a very good year of racing.
If you mean Amac when you say he's having a good year you are right...he has a good year every year as long as the 1% sheep stay involved. Did you ever notice $$$$ are never discussed but Amac's own admission it costs $35K-$40K per year for each horse and with about 150 horses you do the math. He charges his 1%ers for everything and I do mean everything including his daily Starbucks (buried under other expenses.
Amac could be in trouble if and when they pass that only the person that owns the highest % of ownership in a horse can be the corresponding officer and have complete say. Also there is a movement that even if you own 1% of a horse you must get a license for each state the horse races in. The feeling is if you own, you are an owner and will be treated like any other owner, not someone who wants to brag they own part of a horse and get your picture taken in the winners circle.
Ever notice how Amac has never mentioned the positive McGinnis got or how his $50K and over purchases do and there are many. His house of cards may soon start to crumble but by then he probably has stashed away enough money. He should change the name for The Stable.ca to OPM stable..Other peoples money.
He must have something up his sleeve since the majority of the horses he bought in Ohio were signed by The Stable International Racing Group or something like that but as PT Barnum said a sucker is born every minute!!
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That project is built on a sink hole! It's just a matter of time before a dissatisfied member with a sizable interest and a sharp Attorney get a court order to audit the books. 11.wp 11.wp
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I think the majority just wish to have a pleasant time
owning a racehorse.
For a relatively small fee you can participate.
The conductor must make a reasonable profit.
Min 20% to 30% after the dust settles.
Like a casino or a restaurant...
for enjoyment and recreational purposes.
Have your credit card/check book ready.
and have a good time...win or lose.
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He appears to be having a lil tougher time this year selli
G hi s Lexington buckets. But I actually watched a video of him after the Ohio Sale and what set me back was he was talking about how much time he puts into a sale and says he bud on over 80 yearlings. What? That tells you all he’s doing is buying numbers, I’ve been to many sales buying and if you found 80 to bid on you are not doing your homework. Again proof he’s just making sure he comes out of a sale with a certain number not value.
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He appears to be having a lil tougher time this year selli
G hi s Lexington buckets. But I actually watched a video of him after the Ohio Sale and what set me back was he was talking about how much time he puts into a sale and says he bud on over 80 yearlings. What? That tells you all he’s doing is buying numbers, I’ve been to many sales buying and if you found 80 to bid on you are not doing your homework. Again proof he’s just making sure he comes out of a sale with a certain number not value.
Totally agree but I thought he said he had over 100 picked out and he also said that each one he bought was undervalued in his mind...if he paid $18K for a yearling he said he had it pegged at $25...the one he bought for $65 he thought was worth $85...These are both if memory serves me right. Two other things..in his videos did you notice that the comments section is always turned off and he never talks about total costs. I have been told that he is considering adding another $2600-$2800 per yearling for equipment purchases up front. Wonder where all the other equipment went with the sold horses?? The ice is starting to crack under his feet.
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A surcharge to apply for insurance as well as harness sets etc.
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That project is built on a sink hole! It's just a matter of time before a dissatisfied member with a sizable interest and a sharp Attorney get a court order to audit the books. 11.wp 11.wp
Surrre.... because im sure Anthony isn't using a Attorney to make sure of everything, he's just doing all this out of a whim, a bid idea, LOL LOL ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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If you mean Amac when you say he's having a good year you are right...he has a good year every year as long as the 1% sheep stay involved. Did you ever notice $$$$ are never discussed but Amac's own admission it costs $35K-$40K per year for each horse and with about 150 horses you do the math. He charges his 1%ers for everything and I do mean everything including his daily Starbucks (buried under other expenses.
Amac could be in trouble if and when they pass that only the person that owns the highest % of ownership in a horse can be the corresponding officer and have complete say. Also there is a movement that even if you own 1% of a horse you must get a license for each state the horse races in. The feeling is if you own, you are an owner and will be treated like any other owner, not someone who wants to brag they own part of a horse and get your picture taken in the winners circle.
Ever notice how Amac has never mentioned the positive McGinnis got or how his $50K and over purchases do and there are many. His house of cards may soon start to crumble but by then he probably has stashed away enough money. He should change the name for The Stable.ca to OPM stable..Other peoples money.
He must have something up his sleeve since the majority of the horses he bought in Ohio were signed by The Stable International Racing Group or something like that but as PT Barnum said a sucker is born every minute!!
he's not the only one running group ownerships, theres a couple out there followed his ideas so i doubt that will ever pass, and what Mc Ginnis positive? i haven't seen it? When was it so i can look it up? Probably a meds overage
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MCGINNIS, JASON D SAGAMORE HILLS, OH YOB 1979
Nfld on 3/1/2023 FINED: $1,000
FULL - 365 DAYS, 6/22/2023 THRU 6/20/2024
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
APPEALED - 6/21/2023
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Blood sample #908319 collected at Northfield Park on 3/1/23 from the horse HP Maestro
was found to contain D-Methamphetamine. All purse money ($5,000.00) must be returned
for redistribution. D-Methamphetamine is a Class 1 Category A offense. First offense in the
last 365 days. If you choose not to appeal this ruling the suspension will be reduced to 60
days (with 305 days stayed) pending no Class 1 or 2 positives within the next 365 days.
O.S.R.C.-3769-18-01(B)(10)&(13) 18-02 18-99 If the fine is not paid to the judges by 7/1/23
you shall be suspended. During his suspension Mr. McGinnis is barred from all grounds
governed by the OSRC. Any horses that he wants to transfer to another owner or trainer
must be approved by the judges.
Status as of 6/21/2023 - Appeal
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I think the majority just wish to have a pleasant time
owning a racehorse.
For a relatively small fee you can participate.
The conductor must make a reasonable profit.
Min 20% to 30% after the dust settles.
Like a casino or a restaurant...
for enjoyment and recreational purposes.
Have your credit card/check book ready.
and have a good time...win or lose.
Exactly. I've had horses with the stable for 3 years and overall it has been a rather good experience. It's a big undertaking and like any business they've had to adjust as they move along. You are responsible for choosing your own horses. Pick the wrong horse and you lose money-is this some new concept in racing?? I haven't had to pay any bills for close to 2 years and i've had on average 6 horses in ownership this year at any given time and they were almost entirely 2 yr olds so they didn't race until June. I choose to leave my money on a credit. I could take it out any time if i wanted to but i don't rely on it for income. Don't spend any more than you can afford to lose. It's entertainment. I'm assuming a lot of ploppers are losing money on racing or they wouldn't be complaining about other's peoples stables. Give A a break. This sport needs new blood.
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The sport needs new blood just like Dracula...Amac sucks the life out his sheep.
On their website here is the following statement..sure is a structure I would want to be part of....wonder what Amac has to hide:
Unfortunately, due to privacy restrictions, we cannot share or openly post all of the names of clients associated with each horse.