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Title: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Jctoronto on August 30, 2023, 08:59:48 AM
Northfield tonight.

Logan Ebersole
drives in 2 8 11 races. trains 2

For some reason, known in program lines as L Ebersole

Yes, its a problem.

What will it take for USTA and Canada harness tracks and program liners to properly ENSURE we know which family member drove or trained a horse the week(s) before, SO WE CAN WAGER WITH SOME SEMBLANCE OF CONFIDENCE!

Here let me help:
Capable vet Luke: L Ebersole
Greenhorn young man: Lo Ebersole

Now, was that so hard?
DO IT.
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 30, 2023, 09:04:57 AM
Thank you for solving a monumental problem. Now you can wager confidently.
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:14:50 AM
Shouldn't happen..
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Frank the Zipper on August 30, 2023, 09:17:35 AM
amazing what "o" can do
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: wiseowl on August 30, 2023, 09:27:25 AM
It is crazy what some people bitch about get a life you stupid jerk.
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:31:56 AM
Crazy...so are you saying who drove the horse don't matter...lol wtf ngc3
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:34:13 AM
And he's the stupid jerk... 73cv.2 and to you it don't matter who drove the horse
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:37:33 AM
J.Cambell..lets say there was a John and a Joe...Johns batting 370...Joe 123....so what your saying you wouldn't care what J.Cambell been driving horse to you there all the same ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 30, 2023, 09:40:51 AM
I would know who was who looking at them when they are on the track as you should. I also dont bet horses I can't see.
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 30, 2023, 09:53:48 AM
If you are going to bet Luke, save the aggravation and just toss your money into the trash can! ngc3
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:54:32 AM
J.C said program lines..Sure he knew who was driving horse that night but in the pps there's not indicator as to which is was
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:58:13 AM
If you are going to bet Luke, save the aggravation and just toss your money into the trash can! ngc3
Luke "Skywalker"=Capable Vet
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 09:58:43 AM
At least to J.C ngc3
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: old guy on August 30, 2023, 11:21:08 AM
J.Cambell..lets say there was a John and a Joe...Johns batting 370...Joe 123....so what your saying you wouldn't care what J.Cambell been driving horse to you there all the same ngc3 ngc3

John Campbell would be better than either
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: SwankToliverA on August 30, 2023, 12:13:45 PM
Northfield used to have Jr, in the program when it was Keith Kash Jr- now he and his father are both listed as Keith Kash.
If one doesn't look at the driver's starts for the year, you'd have no idea which one is on the horse..and Sr is a no 100% of the time for me. Jr is a no, about 80%😂
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: HornbyDuke on August 30, 2023, 12:13:55 PM
Jc - i appreciate ur fustration. The minutiae in programs can sometimes be a difference maker. Its probably skipped over by the vast percentage of betting public while for you it can be a valuable variable.

I see mistake after mistake in program but appreciate that this isnt a product being produced that is a financial bonanza to business interests. Usta and the tracks have bigger headaches these days so you and i are stuck with what we get.  Sometimes the same trainer is listed as a new claim etc.

Besides, im aging but it appears to me everything fucked up these days. Cant complain about it all or your whole day is full of angst. Id turn the page with the satisfaction that you can distinguish the ebersols. I see the name and all i think of is the sports annoucer i listened to for yrs.

Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 12:29:21 PM
I think he's gotta shot at resolving this issue if he and others reach out to the right people...Alls he's asking for is to buy a vowel..
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 12:36:14 PM
I want to see batting average next to drivers b4 the one driving that night... especially horses shipping in from other tracks that I don't usually bet and it happens if I'm betting a track that say I don't bet everyday that a driver drove the horse I'm looking at and he's not racing that night there..so I gotta dig and search what this guy's batting average is...
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: EPM on August 30, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
We gotta rock the boat and get these issues resolved..we're not asking for blood ..just a letter here and there and some numbers...I say we protest and riot..If not for ourselves but for the children ..future handicappers
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: HornbyDuke on August 30, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
Have at it. A good riot requires some guy fawkes masks though. Usta appears to be pretty receptive to constructive criticism and the two tracks involved couldnt be more customer friendly especially to handicappers. See if you can latch onto someone on the casino side at the tracks. Bring the northfield program with some red marker changes.
 
Im with you guys 100 % in spirit.
Title: Re: Whats in a name? Chapter 4
Post by: Jctoronto on August 30, 2023, 11:02:03 PM
Sticking w/ Northfield

trainers
BILL RHOADES         listed as: B Rhoades
BRAIDEN RHOADES listed as: B Rhoades

 'does it matter' blah blah.
Of course, it matters.
We NEED to know who is in charge that night and does it differ who was in charge 4 pgm lines ago.
Come on Ohio.

FIX IT!
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