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Title: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on August 24, 2023, 09:37:44 AM
East Rutherford, NJ — On July 14 at The Meadowlands, the horse Classic Landing collapsed soon after the finish and died within moments. There was no catastrophic breakdown, his fatality was the result of an internal event.

A necropsy was performed, as is policy at The Meadowlands, and the results were recently filed with the New Jersey Racing Commission. A copy was requested by The Meadowlands so those results might be made available.

The summary of the necropsy reported by the New Jersey Animal Health Diagnostic Lab reads as follows:

“The cause of sudden collapse and death in this horse was hypovolemic shock and hypoxemia secondary to hemorrhage from rupture of the left pulmonary artery. The subcutaneous and skeletal muscle hemorrhages are consistent with trauma related to perimortem collapse.”

Classic Landing was a trotter, competing in the 2-year-old New Jersey Sires Stakes program for trainer Ron Burke and owners Burke Racing Stable, Knox Services, Larry Karr, and J&T Silva-Purnell & Libby. He had won his only previous start, a Kindergarten Series leg, in 1:54.4.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: shotgunner on August 24, 2023, 10:00:35 AM
East Rutherford, NJ — On July 14 at The Meadowlands, the horse Classic Landing collapsed soon after the finish and died within moments. There was no catastrophic breakdown, his fatality was the result of an internal event.

A necropsy was performed, as is policy at The Meadowlands, and the results were recently filed with the New Jersey Racing Commission. A copy was requested by The Meadowlands so those results might be made available.

The summary of the necropsy reported by the New Jersey Animal Health Diagnostic Lab reads as follows:

“The cause of sudden collapse and death in this horse was hypovolemic shock and hypoxemia secondary to hemorrhage from rupture of the left pulmonary artery. The subcutaneous and skeletal muscle hemorrhages are consistent with trauma related to perimortem collapse.”

Classic Landing was a trotter, competing in the 2-year-old New Jersey Sires Stakes program for trainer Ron Burke and owners Burke Racing Stable, Knox Services, Larry Karr, and J&T Silva-Purnell & Libby. He had won his only previous start, a Kindergarten Series leg, in 1:54.4.

That crank Tim Finley was crowing all about how he could tell the horse was lame and that’s what happened to the horse. Fucking POS
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 24, 2023, 10:32:31 AM
Finley should problem become a stall mucker and take the course over again before assessing lameness issues.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 24, 2023, 11:02:10 AM
The Hematologic and CBC reports on findings are probably being secured like classified documents!
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: dinkadoo on August 24, 2023, 11:52:44 AM
I found it interesting that this was released by the USTA. Lot of issues happen that seem to go silent. This one --- lets make it a press release.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: captain morgan on August 24, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
That crank Tim Finley was crowing all about how he could tell the horse was lame and that’s what happened to the horse. Fucking POS

Don't forget Loveda saw it also 😂😀😂😀😂😀
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: wiggles44 on August 24, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
Heart exploded
But dont investigate why
 :1
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 24, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
Sadly from here on out, this will be known as the "Colt that was born with a heart problem " if Burkes refer to him in conversation.   11.wp
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: okdfool on August 24, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
Blown heart from drugs, several have done it in the last 2 years and Hypoeximia is low oxygen,  low blood oxygen, all this affects the red blood cells, what ever their new super gas is is gonna keep killing their horses stupid greedy A- holes!
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Here they come on August 24, 2023, 06:03:22 PM
Finley is correct. The horse did not look right on track in post parade.  I was waiting for judges to scratch. I’m sure it was connected to issues stated in report.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: SDST2009 on August 24, 2023, 06:59:50 PM
Finley is correct. The horse did not look right on track in post parade.  I was waiting for judges to scratch. I’m sure it was connected to issues stated in report.

100% correct. I saw the same you did. I fully understand it wasn't a catastrophic breakdown of the musculoskeletal nature, but I have eyes and that horse was not right in the post parade. I, like you, was waiting for the late scratch that never came.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Here they come on August 24, 2023, 08:06:21 PM
OKD FOOL, you sound like one. Horse obviously had genetic defect that caused his demise. There was an autopsy. If there was any drugs involved, that would have been detected.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: seen2much on August 24, 2023, 08:08:39 PM
Tim Finley is a drama queen. I don't know him. His Facebook posts are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: White Rabbit on August 24, 2023, 08:51:55 PM
OKD FOOL, you sound like one. Horse obviously had genetic defect that caused his demise. There was an autopsy. If there was any drugs involved, that would have been detected.

You can absolutely rule out genetic defect. The horse would have never made the races, that would have shown up when he was training down. The horse would have never been able to go a 40 mile. The necropsy did not shown and genetic abnormalities. But is for some odd unknown reason the blood is to thick then cardiac resistance gets so high that the arteries rupture from the increase in resistance. Again if this was a genetic abnormality this horse would have never went fast enough to qualify. That is and absolute medical fact.
The reason for posting the necropsy, just and observation not a fact is to present the case of , fill in the blank
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: SDST2009 on August 24, 2023, 09:04:05 PM
OKD FOOL, you sound like one. Horse obviously had genetic defect that caused his demise. There was an autopsy. If there was any drugs involved, that would have been detected.

i am curious; are all drugs detectable/tested for? I am wondering if the necropsy would catch things beyond those that are typically tested for in day-to-day race testing.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 24, 2023, 09:13:49 PM
Well that didn't take long! On the 1st day the Heart Defect card has already hit the table!  9z.lg
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: White Rabbit on August 24, 2023, 09:32:28 PM
State Drug detection is so far behind . There are so many peptides that are being used at such a small amount, .025 mcgs as and example,that are almost impossible to detect by state labs. Unless they get WADA involved it’s free rein. If anyone questions this then just take a look at how many of the drugs Fishmen was selling. His painkiller was a peptide that was 100x stronger then morphine and they only used.05 mcgs. Not one of his drugs ever showed up on a positive test.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Superfecta on August 24, 2023, 11:47:27 PM
The Burke apologists are in the house.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 25, 2023, 12:04:06 AM
Correct,however it didn't have to be a pharmaceutical! It could have been a "CONCOCTION " of some sort. Something like a Mineral, Herbal, or Vitamin. Both of which are used in Drenches and Boluses. I have seen my share of both types of applications. If the colt had a birth defect one would have to think that it would have surfaced sooner in the Burkes preparation process. When something like this happens, we can only hope to learn enough from it to prevent it from happening again!


Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: wiseowl on August 25, 2023, 11:21:43 AM
Sadly horses die why do we have to think some thing bad happened here why do stupid people think this way they gave the reason why he die end of story.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: shotgunner on August 25, 2023, 11:34:47 AM
OKD FOOL, you sound like one. Horse obviously had genetic defect that caused his demise. There was an autopsy. If there was any drugs involved, that would have been detected.

You can absolutely rule out genetic defect. The horse would have never made the races, that would have shown up when he was training down. The horse would have never been able to go a 40 mile. The necropsy did not shown and genetic abnormalities. But is for some odd unknown reason the blood is to thick then cardiac resistance gets so high that the arteries rupture from the increase in resistance. Again if this was a genetic abnormality this horse would have never went fast enough to qualify. That is and absolute medical fact.
The reason for posting the necropsy, just and observation not a fact is to present the case of , fill in the blank

Horses with undetected heart issues race all the time. And they are fine until they aren’t, whether it’s an a fib or they have a heart attack or an aneurysm. Some horses are ticking time bombs just like people. Now sometimes there’s signs but a horse looking off in his hocks is pretty far down the fucking list as being connected to a heart issue.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: dinkadoo on August 25, 2023, 12:17:22 PM
OKD FOOL, you sound like one. Horse obviously had genetic defect that caused his demise. There was an autopsy. If there was any drugs involved, that would have been detected.

1) genetic defect - i don't have the inside information you must know of the genetic defects of this horse.

2) Drugs ? -- I have no idea if they played a part -- but you assuming that testing would have caught that  ngc3 ngc3
        Like the testing that caught all the guys in jail now --- oooops  I mean no test caught what they were using.....                                                     
        Testing  ngc3  Catching drugs  ngc3
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: HornbyDuke on August 25, 2023, 12:53:28 PM
Many cases where high school and college athletes have died well after they started playing. This was the second or third start for this horse.

Burke Derangement Syndrome

Yes. Lenny bias tragic example. Young humans and animals die. Sometimes related to drugs, sometimes not.

I do find it worthy of comment that the pedalled spin is always "nothing here pay no attention to the wizard behind the curtain."

Too much has transpired unfortunately for the knowledgable public not to have suspicions aroused.

My guess would be nothing untorward involved here but id be an idiot to accept the harness industry insider angle that no reason for asking was drugs a factor.
Title: Re: Classic Landing - Death at Meadowlands 07/14
Post by: White Rabbit on August 25, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Again,
If this was a congenital defect it the horse would have shown some signs or symptom in the 7 months of training, with going miles 2 times a week.
Not just a catastrophic event. As with human athletes, the ones who have these events and survive , say they had signs n symptoms prior but ignored them.
Question why if the authorities knew about Fishmens PEDS was there never a single Standardbreed or Thoroughbred that tested positive. The amount of these peptides is so small its almost impossible to catch them unless you get WADA involved.
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