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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Generation XYZ on August 21, 2023, 09:16:18 PM
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Sadly 2023 is a slipping into the books as one of the worst TB meets in Saratoga history. Are we seeing this great summer venue sliding into the abyss like many other cherished venues? Its concerning to see won of the summers long time great venues host dare I say hesitantly, bad season. Agreeably you cant control the weather, but you CAN plan on better track surface management that was evident in years past.
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Arent they breaking attendance records still. I thought i heard some nyra shrill claiming that on local sports talk radio show.
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I agree this meet is not one of their best so far. Constant short fields especially on the turf. Too many incidents where one has to believe the track conditions aren’t always as they should be. The NYRA judges are inconsistent and have made some big errors in my opinion. Although both Ortiz boys have finally been suspended the judges waited way too long to act. The weather is the weather. It has been bad everywhere this summer. Unless you enjoy betting with very little information, the track has so many Maiden Special Weight 2 year old races it turns me off. I am probably in the minority on this comment but betting seems to be about inside information not anything you can read on the racing form.
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I agree this meet is not one of their best so far. Constant short fields especially on the turf. Too many incidents where one has to believe the track conditions aren’t always as they should be. The NYRA judges are inconsistent and have made some big errors in my opinion. Although both Ortiz boys have finally been suspended the judges waited way too long to act. The weather is the weather. It has been bad everywhere this summer. Unless you enjoy betting with very little information, the track has so many Maiden Special Weight 2 year old races it turns me off. I am probably in the minority on this comment but betting seems to be about inside information not anything you can read on the racing form.
But the people who own those 2 yr old special weight maidens love it! They get a chance to get some return on their investments!
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But the people who own those 2 yr old special weight maidens love it! They get a chance to get some return on their investments!
East Coast Bias much?
Saratoga 2 yo's as highly important is fake news. Very fake.
The last Kentucky Derby winner to break its maiden at Saratoga was Big Brown in 2008.
The last Derby winner to RUN at Saratoga was Always Dreaming in 2017.
Between the short fields, washed out turf races, horses dropping dead, whatever the fuck they let Linda Rice and Irad get away with for the first 4 weeks and the weather... awful meet.
Some of it, you can't help. But 5 horse $30k claiming races is just bad management.
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Never been there but the NYRA broadcast proclaims the place is Heavan on earth!
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It’s true the track is a very nice place to visit. The backyard and picnic area is a big summer party. I believe most fans in the back the track rarely go to the front apron to watch the races. There are tv monitors everywhere to watch the races. Although it is not cheap there are plenty of eating and drinking options. The are lots of wagering options and unless it is a monster day like The Travers it is very hard to be shut out. The backyard can get quite warm and if it rains you have to run for cover indoors. If you opt to sit in the grandstand there is very little air circulating but the views are good. If you have never been to Saratoga do put it on your Bucket List. Stay in a B&B in the area and enjoy downtown Saratoga Springs.
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But the people who own those 2 yr old special weight maidens love it! They get a chance to get some return on their investments!
Money definitely good... I have a share in a filly to be entered on the turf for Saturday on Travers Day... MSW going Mile 1/16th.
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Hope she’s a muddier.
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East Coast Bias much?
Saratoga 2 yo's as highly important is fake news. Very fake.
The last Kentucky Derby winner to break its maiden at Saratoga was Big Brown in 2008.
The last Derby winner to RUN at Saratoga was Always Dreaming in 2017.
Between the short fields, washed out turf races, horses dropping dead, whatever the fuck they let Linda Rice and Irad get away with for the first 4 weeks and the weather... awful meet.
Some of it, you can't help. But 5 horse $30k claiming races is just bad management.
It's not my fault that Saratoga is on the east coast. You are racing at one of the handful and most prestigious racetracks in the world! If you have the money and a decent horse, you can trek to Saratoga from anywhere in the country/world, pay the bills and race there! Also, if you are extremely lucky you can stable your horse at Saratoga Raceway right across the street from the mecca too!
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Not sure if stabling your horse at Saratoga Raceway would be considered getting lucky. Barns haven't even been painted since I was a groom there 40+ years ago. Forget about anything being repaired. At least NYRA occasionally does some work on their barns. I really think the harness track would love for the barn area to be abandoned like the Meadowlands. They already removed the training track.
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Not sure if stabling your horse at Saratoga Raceway would be considered getting lucky. Barns haven't even been painted since I was a groom there 40+ years ago. Forget about anything being repaired. At least NYRA occasionally does some work on their barns. I really think the harness track would love for the barn area to be abandoned like the Meadowlands. They already removed the training track.
I was being sarcastic if you owned a thoroughbred! I have one standardbred horse currently racing there and another standardbred horse making periodic visits there. Agreed on the barns being that bad. Probably been longer than 40 years---seriously!
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Bring in jai alai
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I have a standardbred currently stabled there as well. Its sad how much they neglect the grounds. I think they get good money for stall rent from the thoroughbreds. They should put some of that money into the barns.
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If ur going to the Travers, phish is in town so traffic will be a mess between the two. Stay home, bet the winner (Mage) and watch on tv.
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Phish and Travers in one small town the same night. Party time! Cops and generation XYZ will be busy this weekend
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If ur going to the Travers, phish is in town so traffic will be a mess between the two. Stay home, bet the winner (Mage) and watch on tv.
Just getting ready out on the town. Like fish in barrel tonight... tmbz1
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I can smell the weed from spac down in albany.
Ill give phish credit, its a benefit concert for vermont and upstate comnuinities that suffered from flooding a short time ago. Not a fan if their sound myself but apparently some like it.
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I can smell the weed from spac down in albany.
Ill give phish credit, its a benefit concert for vermont and upstate comnuinities that suffered from flooding a short time ago. Not a fan if their sound myself but apparently some like it.
Just head to shakedown st and buy some boomers. You'll love the music.
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Whaaat a night. Went to the SoundBar (night club), in Saratoga. Needless to say, just getting in. Have to shower and get ready fro Travers Day.
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Whewww what a Travers Weekend, and not referring to the action on the track! Leaving the town with a little less bourbon, and a few bow legged woman behind. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Whewww what a Travers Weekend, and not referring to the action on the track! Leaving the town with a little less bourbon, and a few bow legged woman behind. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Now we know XYZ went home a big, big winner 73cv.2
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Now we know XYZ went home a big, big winner 73cv.2
ngc3 Maybe not cash flush. But rich on 2023 SPA Memories... ngc3