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		General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on August 20, 2023, 01:41:29 PM
		
			
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				If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday. 
			
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				If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday.
 
 
 Well I wouldn't give Ake a pacer
 
 
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				Jimmy 
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 It’s not even close
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				If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday.
 
 
 AKE if AKE doesnt drive the horse.
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				Just as a TRAINER........a top driver would drive the horse.
			
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				Ake Svandstet and ne can drive a Hambo winner...Ray Schnittker, Mal Burroughs and Roger Hammer all have.
 
 Marcus Melander will train a Hambo winner one day too
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				Takter, smart enough to put right person up to drive. Ake is more of an egotist than Jimmy ever was. 
			
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				Yeah, but's OK  A lot of ego in this business
			
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				Has to be Ake.  Yimmy retired 
			
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				Nancy or Sarah
			
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				Both sitting on me please    Sarah fore, Nancy aft
			
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				Jimmy all the way!!
			
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				AKE if AKE doesnt drive the horse.
 
 
 Right on!!
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				Right on!!
 
 
 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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				Ake an amzing trainer. If he just trained and used a top-level catch driver, his numbers would be way better. 
 
 His horses never use trotting hobbles, no lasix, and can all leave the gate. They also rarely break stride. Has produced some world-class totters and now sires. Plus you never see him pay crazy money for one ( more than $500,000) that turns out to be a dud. Taxter and his daughter can't say that.
 He's Truly a master!!!
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				YIMMY,YIMMY,YIMMY! tmbz1
			
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				Ake, if Sarah is available for  :1
			
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				Ake Svandstet and ne can drive a Hambo winner...Ray Schnittker, Mal Burroughs and Roger Hammer all have.
 
 Marcus Melander will train a Hambo winner one day too
 
 
 Melander will be crawling back to Sweden with his tail between his legs shortly.
 
 Think he had 1 win at meadowlands from June on.
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				His horses earned like 6 million dollars last year and he just missed winning the Hambletonian THIS year...
			
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				Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3
			
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				Fuguzzi, have you ever been employed where you work directly with the general public? There is some goofy dudes out there. 
			
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				Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3
 
 
 
 His rail in between legs all right, them hot Swedish legs the help provide
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				Fuguzzi, have you ever been employed where you work directly with the general public? There is some goofy dudes out there.
 
 Sure did. Gave up training for 7 years as I saw some of the handwriting on the wall concerning NY ,metro area racing. Did corporate training and management at the food . hospitality level.  I know exactly what you are talking about!
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				Sure did. Gave up training for 7 years as I saw some of the handwriting on the wall concerning NY ,metro area racing. Did corporate training and management at the food . hospitality level.  I know exactly what you are talking about!
 
 
 MacDonald's grill or Walmart greeter?
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				Say what you want. Melander has come a long way since 2013, when he was jogging horses for Takter.
			
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				 MacDonald's grill or Walmart greeter?
 
 You have demonstrated yourself to pretty much be an ass and contribute garbage opinions on here. No need to address you further.
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				You have demonstrated yourself to pretty much be an ass and contribute garbage opinions on here. No need to address you further.
 
 
 You know who it is dont you?
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				I don't care if it's John Campbell, but if you wanna share go ahead. I have never abused anyone on here and stand firm with my facts and opinions.
			
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				I don't care if it's John Campbell, but if you wanna share go ahead. I have never abused anyone on here and stand firm with my facts and opinions.
 
 
 Look at the date they came on line a day or so after the Senator went off line.
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				figured that's where you were going? Ok then tmbz1 ngc3  he's just busting balls.
			
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				figured that's where you were going? Ok then tmbz1 ngc3  he's just busting balls.
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 I could be wrong. But awful coincidental. And I really dont believe in coincidence
 
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				Schnittker did   he used to race Koinkydink
			
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				Schnittker did   he used to race Koinkydink
 
 
 Great line! Actually, there was a trotter up in Maine about 10 years ago named Coincidence.
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				Great line! Actually, there was a trotter up in Maine about 10 years ago named Coincidence.
 
 Glad u like   thanks for the info  didnt know that
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				Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3
 
 
 Has he won a race since thus post?
 I see someone bought  call of the wild off him and won impressively right away....
 
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				Has he won a race since thus post?
 I see someone bought  call of the wild off him and won impressively right away....
 
 has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.
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				has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.
 
 was just embarressed in nw1 at pocono again
 i watch the races buddy
 what money returned on money in? isnt that important
 i see ake and jimmy win constantly
 dont hold your breath on MM its been a while.
 
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				has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.
 
 
 no comment on them selling one for 10 cents on the dollar that ran 4 times for them but wins first start for bob lafoon in 57.2 last quarter in 27?
 
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				no comment on them selling one for 10 cents on the dollar that ran 4 times for them but wins first start for bob lafoon in 57.2 last quarter in 27?
 [/quote   Why would I comment. Does getting beat with a marginal trotter at Pocono or somebody improving first out negate melander's career. Of course not. He has amassed almost 9 million in earning past 18 months and just missed winning this year's Hambo due to a miracle trip for Scotty. Melander remains in the top 3 of trotting trainers by every measure.
 
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				Date night hanover off the board as the favorite.
 Only 700k for her
 400k for Cadillac moon
 
 Are you Snyder in denile???
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				Marcus Melander so far in 2023    248 / 54  42  41  2.7 million earned   .367 batting average    among the sports highest
 
 
 Bur according to you, every horse has to "make it" or he is trash. Is that the point?
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				Marcus Melander so far in 2023    248 / 54  42  41  2.7 million earned   .367 batting average    among the sports highest
 
 
 Bur according to you, every horse has to "make it" or he is trash. Is that the point?
 
 
 my point is it MATTERS how much money youve put into gaining that return.
 he raced million dollar horses against nw1 all spring. so his udrs is high
 its about ROI. NO ONE not even AKE or JIMMY pays more for horse flesh
 they win races everyday.
 and you can go years without soomeone improving of these operations. yet in the time since this thread started MM hasnt won a race but the one horse he sold wins even though he couldnt keep him flat??
 
 start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
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				Gotcha   Well, I put my 50 years in and never had a half million dollar baby, so i never had these concerns. thanks for the education. Good luck with your string of baby trotters and your axe to grind against Melander.
			
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				2 to 1 with tetrick on a 300k yearling. makes a break
 3 to 1 in the last in the cheapest divison you can race. doesnt get a check
 
 watch the races
 
 you heard about it all here first
 
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				Gotcha   Well, I put my 50 years in and never had a half million dollar baby, so i never had these concerns. thanks for the education. Good luck with your string of baby trotters and your axe to grind against Melander.
 
 
 i dont like fakes and phonies and users of people
 
 watch the races
 dont let the skewed numbers fool you
 lemme know when you see him doing well with horses.
 i seee ake and takter win everyday
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				Interestingly if you look at average earnings per start and cumulative earnings given the number of starts each between Nancy Takter and Marcus Melander over the past 2 years, individually and combined, you may be startled. I didn't realize Melander was a fake, phony or user, but I take you at face value and I am sure you know the situation and him better than I do.  
 
 Of course Svanstedt is in his own league, but the two aforementioned are quite formidable
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				my point is it MATTERS how much money youve put into gaining that return.
 he raced million dollar horses against nw1 all spring. so his udrs is high
 its about ROI. NO ONE not even AKE or JIMMY pays more for horse flesh
 they win races everyday.
 and you can go years without soomeone improving of these operations. yet in the time since this thread started MM hasnt won a race but the one horse he sold wins even though he couldnt keep him flat??
 
 start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
 
 Accurate and factual
 Melander and Wallen were both kids waving their hands in the air for high priced yearlings both have huge money backers, they get on stage for the big performance but never land the leading role
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				But still Melander bangs out $6 million per year in earnings and if you look closely has a higher average earnings per start 9 a very important ) barometer than Nancy T over the last 3 years. He certainly is a top conditioner of trotters, has a high batting average, would have won the Hambo this year if not for a miracle trip for a rival, so the people that say he will be going to sweden soon with his "tail between his legs" sound foolish, at least to me. that's all. Not trying to fight.
			
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				Accurate and factual
 Melander and Wallen were both kids waving their hands in the air for high priced yearlings both have huge money backers, they get on stage for the big performance but never land the leading role
 
 
 wallin is actually the one who gets the job done of the two
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				But still Melander bangs out $6 million per year in earnings and if you look closely has a higher average earnings per start 9 a very important ) barometer than Nancy T over the last 3 years. He certainly is a top conditioner of trotters, has a high batting average, would have won the Hambo this year if not for a miracle trip for a rival, so the people that say he will be going to sweden soon with his "tail between his legs" sound foolish, at least to me. that's all. Not trying to fight.
 
 smoke and mirrors work untill they dont
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				start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
 
 Come on now, Joshua.
 
 You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.
 
 You don't know anything about young horses.
 
 You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?
 
 You live in a condo your father owns.
 
 I'm still waiting to be impressed.
 
 
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				Come on now, Joshua. 
 
 You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.
 
 You don't know anything about young horses.
 
 You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?
 
 You live in a condo your father owns.
 
 I'm still waiting to be impressed.
 
 
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				Now this is interesting
 
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				Come on now, Joshua. 
 
 You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.
 
 You don't know anything about young horses.
 
 You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?
 
 You live in a condo your father owns.
 
 I'm still waiting to be impressed.
 
 
 Fortunately for me I don't have to worry about what uneducated losers like you think, I just worrry about my stable, which does just fine
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				I was in Lexington and bought broke and trained babies myself 2 years ago. 
 And worked for mm before that.
 
 Come say hi at any of the three tracks I'm racing at today or any other day.
 
 Take a lap in the meantime
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				I was in Lexington and bought broke and trained babies myself 2 years ago. 
 And worked for mm before that.
 
 Come say hi at any of the three tracks I'm racing at today or any other day.
 
 Take a lap in the meantime
 
 You are a very fortunate man. You are part of that less than 1% for whom the game is easy.
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				You are a very fortunate man. You are part of that less than 1% for whom the game is easy.
 
 I work my ass off
 It's not easy
 But having watched more than half of the harness races since 1993 gives me just a little idea
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				You have all missed the mark.  The Greatest Money Making Trainer of this thread should be Greg Peck.  Just ask him, he'll tell you so.
			
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				I work my ass off
 It's not easy
 But having watched more than half of the harness races since 1993 gives me just a little idea
 
 LOL   1993    Johnny Come Lately   You missed the greatest racetrack, backstretch and racing world that ever existed......Roos evelt Raceway   it's a shame too cause given your passion, you would have loved it.  Least you started watching in time to see as great a crop of 3 year old pacers as has ever existed
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				LOL   1993    Johnny Come Lately   You missed the greatest racetrack, backstretch and racing world that ever existed......Roos evelt Raceway   it's a shame too cause given your passion, you would have loved it.  Least you started watching in time to see as great a crop of 3 year old pacers as has ever existed
 
 Started with cams card shark amd Riyadh
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				Duh  That's 1993    I was at the LBJ that year and count myself fortunate to have done so. Saw the greatest Jug ever and the Greatest 3 year old field ever assembled in the Jug. it featured arguably the greatest performance still by a 3 year old on a half mile track. Life Sign and his mind boggling victory. As stated earlier i watch that race at least twice a week. Instant mood changer, at least for me.
			
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				i made a painiting of life sign in my middle school art classs lol
			
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				i made a painiting of life sign in my middle school art classs lol
 
 
 One of the greats!
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				if you look at his confirmation, he shouldn't even get around a half mile oval. looks like his knees are about 3 inches apart.. Amazing job by Riegle/Campbell
			
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				Who would I pick, Ake of Jimmy...hmmmm, I'll have to think about that.