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Title: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: wizardofoz on August 20, 2023, 01:41:29 PM
If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 20, 2023, 01:54:53 PM
If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday.

 Well I wouldn't give Ake a pacer

 
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: LUCPARK on August 20, 2023, 02:04:09 PM
Jimmy
And
It’s not even close
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 20, 2023, 02:05:51 PM
If you owned a Hambo contender, who would want to have it ready for this race, in their prime?  AKE won 4 trotting races at Pocono yesterday.

AKE if AKE doesnt drive the horse.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: wizardofoz on August 20, 2023, 02:15:56 PM
Just as a TRAINER........a top driver would drive the horse.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 20, 2023, 02:55:13 PM
Ake Svandstet and ne can drive a Hambo winner...Ray Schnittker, Mal Burroughs and Roger Hammer all have.

Marcus Melander will train a Hambo winner one day too
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: jupiter on August 20, 2023, 03:11:55 PM
Takter, smart enough to put right person up to drive. Ake is more of an egotist than Jimmy ever was.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 20, 2023, 03:56:57 PM
Yeah, but's OK  A lot of ego in this business
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: hoosierboy on August 20, 2023, 05:07:44 PM
Has to be Ake.  Yimmy retired
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Par Four on August 20, 2023, 05:40:13 PM
Nancy or Sarah
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 20, 2023, 06:21:57 PM
Both sitting on me please    Sarah fore, Nancy aft
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Under The STick on August 20, 2023, 09:03:26 PM
Jimmy all the way!!
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: SeattleSlew on August 20, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
AKE if AKE doesnt drive the horse.

Right on!!
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 20, 2023, 10:05:03 PM
Right on!!

 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Locked in with pace on August 21, 2023, 08:01:52 AM
Ake an amzing trainer. If he just trained and used a top-level catch driver, his numbers would be way better.

His horses never use trotting hobbles, no lasix, and can all leave the gate. They also rarely break stride. Has produced some world-class totters and now sires. Plus you never see him pay crazy money for one ( more than $500,000) that turns out to be a dud. Taxter and his daughter can't say that.
He's Truly a master!!!
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 21, 2023, 04:30:02 PM
YIMMY,YIMMY,YIMMY! tmbz1
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 21, 2023, 04:40:19 PM
Ake, if Sarah is available for  :1
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 22, 2023, 02:22:33 AM
Ake Svandstet and ne can drive a Hambo winner...Ray Schnittker, Mal Burroughs and Roger Hammer all have.

Marcus Melander will train a Hambo winner one day too

Melander will be crawling back to Sweden with his tail between his legs shortly.

Think he had 1 win at meadowlands from June on.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 07:27:54 AM
His horses earned like 6 million dollars last year and he just missed winning the Hambletonian THIS year...
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 08:05:26 AM
Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: The Exporter on August 22, 2023, 08:55:03 AM
Fuguzzi, have you ever been employed where you work directly with the general public? There is some goofy dudes out there.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 22, 2023, 10:18:27 AM
Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3


 His rail in between legs all right, them hot Swedish legs the help provide
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 01:00:36 PM
Fuguzzi, have you ever been employed where you work directly with the general public? There is some goofy dudes out there.
Sure did. Gave up training for 7 years as I saw some of the handwriting on the wall concerning NY ,metro area racing. Did corporate training and management at the food . hospitality level.  I know exactly what you are talking about!
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 22, 2023, 06:04:49 PM
Sure did. Gave up training for 7 years as I saw some of the handwriting on the wall concerning NY ,metro area racing. Did corporate training and management at the food . hospitality level.  I know exactly what you are talking about!

 MacDonald's grill or Walmart greeter?
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 22, 2023, 06:26:04 PM
Say what you want. Melander has come a long way since 2013, when he was jogging horses for Takter.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 06:55:19 PM
MacDonald's grill or Walmart greeter?
You have demonstrated yourself to pretty much be an ass and contribute garbage opinions on here. No need to address you further.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 22, 2023, 07:23:34 PM
You have demonstrated yourself to pretty much be an ass and contribute garbage opinions on here. No need to address you further.

You know who it is dont you?
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 07:27:42 PM
I don't care if it's John Campbell, but if you wanna share go ahead. I have never abused anyone on here and stand firm with my facts and opinions.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 22, 2023, 07:44:50 PM
I don't care if it's John Campbell, but if you wanna share go ahead. I have never abused anyone on here and stand firm with my facts and opinions.

Look at the date they came on line a day or so after the Senator went off line.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 07:58:29 PM
figured that's where you were going? Ok then tmbz1 ngc3  he's just busting balls.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 22, 2023, 08:03:33 PM
figured that's where you were going? Ok then tmbz1 ngc3  he's just busting balls.
[/quote

I could be wrong. But awful coincidental. And I really dont believe in coincidence
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 22, 2023, 08:19:02 PM
Schnittker did   he used to race Koinkydink
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: SeattleSlew on August 22, 2023, 11:57:07 PM
Schnittker did   he used to race Koinkydink

Great line! Actually, there was a trotter up in Maine about 10 years ago named Coincidence.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 23, 2023, 01:18:28 AM
Great line! Actually, there was a trotter up in Maine about 10 years ago named Coincidence.
Glad u like   thanks for the info  didnt know that
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 12:46:30 PM
Marcus Melander 2023 - 53 wins in 239 starts, 2.7 million earned, just missed in this years Hambo. I doubt he will be running back to Sweden with his rail between his legs anytime soon   Love to know who some of these fools posting on here really are   ngc3

Has he won a race since thus post?
I see someone bought  call of the wild off him and won impressively right away....
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 28, 2023, 01:20:19 PM
Has he won a race since thus post?
I see someone bought  call of the wild off him and won impressively right away....
has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 02:16:13 PM
has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.
was just embarressed in nw1 at pocono again
i watch the races buddy
what money returned on money in? isnt that important
i see ake and jimmy win constantly
dont hold your breath on MM its been a while.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 02:20:32 PM
has he won a race in the last 6 days? I don't know and don't care. He remains a TOP conditioner of trotters and HIGH money earner per start.

no comment on them selling one for 10 cents on the dollar that ran 4 times for them but wins first start for bob lafoon in 57.2 last quarter in 27?
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 28, 2023, 02:52:37 PM
no comment on them selling one for 10 cents on the dollar that ran 4 times for them but wins first start for bob lafoon in 57.2 last quarter in 27?
[/quote   Why would I comment. Does getting beat with a marginal trotter at Pocono or somebody improving first out negate melander's career. Of course not. He has amassed almost 9 million in earning past 18 months and just missed winning this year's Hambo due to a miracle trip for Scotty. Melander remains in the top 3 of trotting trainers by every measure.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 03:24:50 PM
Date night hanover off the board as the favorite.
Only 700k for her
400k for Cadillac moon

Are you Snyder in denile???
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 28, 2023, 03:41:14 PM
Marcus Melander so far in 2023    248 / 54  42  41  2.7 million earned   .367 batting average    among the sports highest


Bur according to you, every horse has to "make it" or he is trash. Is that the point?
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 04:00:24 PM
Marcus Melander so far in 2023    248 / 54  42  41  2.7 million earned   .367 batting average    among the sports highest


Bur according to you, every horse has to "make it" or he is trash. Is that the point?

my point is it MATTERS how much money youve put into gaining that return.
he raced million dollar horses against nw1 all spring. so his udrs is high
its about ROI. NO ONE not even AKE or JIMMY pays more for horse flesh
they win races everyday.
and you can go years without soomeone improving of these operations. yet in the time since this thread started MM hasnt won a race but the one horse he sold wins even though he couldnt keep him flat??

start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 28, 2023, 04:12:16 PM
Gotcha   Well, I put my 50 years in and never had a half million dollar baby, so i never had these concerns. thanks for the education. Good luck with your string of baby trotters and your axe to grind against Melander.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 06:11:21 PM
2 to 1 with tetrick on a 300k yearling. makes a break
3 to 1 in the last in the cheapest divison you can race. doesnt get a check

watch the races

you heard about it all here first
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 28, 2023, 06:12:42 PM
Gotcha   Well, I put my 50 years in and never had a half million dollar baby, so i never had these concerns. thanks for the education. Good luck with your string of baby trotters and your axe to grind against Melander.

i dont like fakes and phonies and users of people

watch the races
dont let the skewed numbers fool you
lemme know when you see him doing well with horses.
i seee ake and takter win everyday
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 28, 2023, 07:31:40 PM
Interestingly if you look at average earnings per start and cumulative earnings given the number of starts each between Nancy Takter and Marcus Melander over the past 2 years, individually and combined, you may be startled. I didn't realize Melander was a fake, phony or user, but I take you at face value and I am sure you know the situation and him better than I do. 

Of course Svanstedt is in his own league, but the two aforementioned are quite formidable
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 29, 2023, 09:37:42 AM
my point is it MATTERS how much money youve put into gaining that return.
he raced million dollar horses against nw1 all spring. so his udrs is high
its about ROI. NO ONE not even AKE or JIMMY pays more for horse flesh
they win races everyday.
and you can go years without soomeone improving of these operations. yet in the time since this thread started MM hasnt won a race but the one horse he sold wins even though he couldnt keep him flat??

start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
Accurate and factual
Melander and Wallen were both kids waving their hands in the air for high priced yearlings both have huge money backers, they get on stage for the big performance but never land the leading role
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 29, 2023, 09:41:26 AM
But still Melander bangs out $6 million per year in earnings and if you look closely has a higher average earnings per start 9 a very important ) barometer than Nancy T over the last 3 years. He certainly is a top conditioner of trotters, has a high batting average, would have won the Hambo this year if not for a miracle trip for a rival, so the people that say he will be going to sweden soon with his "tail between his legs" sound foolish, at least to me. that's all. Not trying to fight.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 29, 2023, 11:05:21 AM
Accurate and factual
Melander and Wallen were both kids waving their hands in the air for high priced yearlings both have huge money backers, they get on stage for the big performance but never land the leading role

wallin is actually the one who gets the job done of the two
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 29, 2023, 11:06:05 AM
But still Melander bangs out $6 million per year in earnings and if you look closely has a higher average earnings per start 9 a very important ) barometer than Nancy T over the last 3 years. He certainly is a top conditioner of trotters, has a high batting average, would have won the Hambo this year if not for a miracle trip for a rival, so the people that say he will be going to sweden soon with his "tail between his legs" sound foolish, at least to me. that's all. Not trying to fight.
smoke and mirrors work untill they dont
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Calhoun on August 29, 2023, 11:45:13 AM
start letting the facts settle in before just beig dumb and arguing a losing battle
Come on now, Joshua.

You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.

You don't know anything about young horses. 

You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?

You live in a condo your father owns.

I'm still waiting to be impressed.

Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 29, 2023, 12:17:23 PM
Come on now, Joshua.

You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.

You don't know anything about young horses. 

You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?

You live in a condo your father owns.

I'm still waiting to be impressed.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 29, 2023, 12:17:55 PM
Now this is interesting
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 29, 2023, 01:11:10 PM
Come on now, Joshua.

You "manage" your father's overnight horses he buys off the track.

You don't know anything about young horses. 

You and Pops are buyers of Used Horses, right?

You live in a condo your father owns.

I'm still waiting to be impressed.

Fortunately for me I don't have to worry about what uneducated losers like you think, I just worrry about my stable, which does just fine
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 29, 2023, 01:14:55 PM
I was in Lexington and bought broke and trained babies myself 2 years ago.
And worked for mm before that.

Come say hi at any of the three tracks I'm racing at today or any other day.

Take a lap in the meantime
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 29, 2023, 02:14:36 PM
I was in Lexington and bought broke and trained babies myself 2 years ago.
And worked for mm before that.

Come say hi at any of the three tracks I'm racing at today or any other day.

Take a lap in the meantime
You are a very fortunate man. You are part of that less than 1% for whom the game is easy.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 29, 2023, 06:22:08 PM
You are a very fortunate man. You are part of that less than 1% for whom the game is easy.
I work my ass off
It's not easy
But having watched more than half of the harness races since 1993 gives me just a little idea
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 29, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
You have all missed the mark.  The Greatest Money Making Trainer of this thread should be Greg Peck.  Just ask him, he'll tell you so.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 29, 2023, 08:55:27 PM
I work my ass off
It's not easy
But having watched more than half of the harness races since 1993 gives me just a little idea
LOL   1993    Johnny Come Lately   You missed the greatest racetrack, backstretch and racing world that ever existed......Roos evelt Raceway   it's a shame too cause given your passion, you would have loved it.  Least you started watching in time to see as great a crop of 3 year old pacers as has ever existed
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 30, 2023, 08:31:03 AM
LOL   1993    Johnny Come Lately   You missed the greatest racetrack, backstretch and racing world that ever existed......Roos evelt Raceway   it's a shame too cause given your passion, you would have loved it.  Least you started watching in time to see as great a crop of 3 year old pacers as has ever existed
Started with cams card shark amd Riyadh
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 30, 2023, 08:39:57 AM
Duh  That's 1993    I was at the LBJ that year and count myself fortunate to have done so. Saw the greatest Jug ever and the Greatest 3 year old field ever assembled in the Jug. it featured arguably the greatest performance still by a 3 year old on a half mile track. Life Sign and his mind boggling victory. As stated earlier i watch that race at least twice a week. Instant mood changer, at least for me.
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on August 30, 2023, 10:03:06 AM
i made a painiting of life sign in my middle school art classs lol
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 30, 2023, 01:11:29 PM
i made a painiting of life sign in my middle school art classs lol

One of the greats!
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 30, 2023, 01:59:32 PM
if you look at his confirmation, he shouldn't even get around a half mile oval. looks like his knees are about 3 inches apart.. Amazing job by Riegle/Campbell
Title: Re: Trotting trainer decision--AKE or JIMMY?
Post by: Lance on August 30, 2023, 02:05:54 PM
Who would I pick, Ake of Jimmy...hmmmm, I'll have to think about that.
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