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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Fuguzzi on August 17, 2023, 11:27:22 AM
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Does anyone know where Dr.Grasso and /or Richie Banca are serving their time?
Some of you are excellent investigators online. I am not TY
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They are both getting butt fucked complements of Otisville Erectional facility, NY. Banca is due to be released Christmas of 2024. Grasso, 2026
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Sad how those guys got fucked! They really didn’t do much more than you’re leading trainers are you doing today.
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Sad how those guys got fucked! They really didn’t do much more than you’re leading trainers are you doing today.
What top level trainer doesn't have a performance enhancing edge
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Don't think those guys got fucked, they got far less than they deserved.
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Sad how those guys got fucked! They really didn’t do much more than you’re leading trainers are you doing today.
As for Grasso, I think this sentencing finally in his 60s is partly due to an accululation of crap throughtout his entire career. when he was at YR in the 80s he was also caught selling steroids to youth athletes in westchester cnty ny. I remember he received mercy because he said something like he needed extra money for his young daughter's eye cancer. Miraculous they let him keep his license then. He was always gambling and ficking around. Injecting horses points with saline solution when owners were paying for acid
Back in december of last year, while awaiting sentencing he was part of a scheme with an electronic rouellette dealer at Pocono where they won/defrauded the casino out of 18k Ar least they sent him to the CC at Otisville within reach of whatever family he still has left.
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As for Grasso, I think this sentencing finally in his 60s is partly due to an accululation of crap throughtout his entire career. when he was at YR in the 80s he was also caught selling steroids to youth athletes in westchester cnty ny. I remember he received mercy because he said something like he needed extra money for his young daughter's eye cancer. Miraculous they let him keep his license then. He was always gambling and ficking around. Injecting horses points with saline solution when owners were paying for acid
Back in december of last year, while awaiting sentencing he was part of a scheme with an electronic rouellette dealer at Pocono where they won/defrauded the casino out of 18k Ar least they sent him to the CC at Otisville within reach of whatever family he still has left.
I could think of a bunch of guys over the years that fits into that category we could start with Renee Pollin and 90% of the French Canadians and Aussies!
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Poulin didnt abuse a medical license and kill horses like Grasso did. Rene drove for me several times. when he was straight he had talent. Came up under a good horseman, Norman Dauplaise.
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When is Surick going to jail?
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Should have been 6 months ago for my part
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When is Surick going to jail?
Yesterday is not soon enough.
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As for Grasso, I think this sentencing finally in his 60s is partly due to an accululation of crap throughtout his entire career. when he was at YR in the 80s he was also caught selling steroids to youth athletes in westchester cnty ny. I remember he received mercy because he said something like he needed extra money for his young daughter's eye cancer. Miraculous they let him keep his license then. He was always gambling and ficking around. Injecting horses points with saline solution when owners were paying for acid
Back in december of last year, while awaiting sentencing he was part of a scheme with an electronic rouellette dealer at Pocono where they won/defrauded the casino out of 18k Ar least they sent him to the CC at Otisville within reach of whatever family he still has left.
remember when they kicked him an luellen out of italy..
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Poulin didnt abuse a medical license and kill horses like Grasso did. Rene drove for me several times. when he was straight he had talent. Came up under a good horseman, Norman Dauplaise.
BS! Rene ruined many of horses through drugs! I’ve seen good horses go through his barn and six months later they were skin and bones!
He was also a gambling degenerate junkey that took it out on his horses on a rare occasion when he would show up at the barn.
He’s a total piece of shit.
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Not arguing what Rene was about. Simply said he had talent. Unfortuantely, doping, cocaine, gambling and ties to the mob ruined his life and career. I once asked him what he needed to get even. He puffed his cigar and said, "Two lifetimes"
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Not arguing what Rene was about. Simply said he had talent. Unfortuantely, doping, cocaine, gambling and ties to the mob ruined his life and career. I once asked him what he needed to get even. He puffed his cigar and said, "Two lifetimes"
what did him is was when he got caught tubing TBs
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Back in the 2003-2008 years we would sit in the Big M grandstand on Saturday nights. My ownership group always sat together and Bianca’s father was always there since he owned many of the very good horses his son trained. Let me say that the father seemed like a real nasty sob. He rarely held back when things did not go his way. He was also extremely unfriendly. I don’t know what became of him or if he had anything to do with his son’s doping crimes. In the paddock I would see junior who never seemed to talk to anyone. He kept his head down, never smiled and rarely said anything to anyone. A little strange to me back then.
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When is Surick going to jail?
Aren't there a few Nick Surick 'experts' on horseplop? How come they haven't weighed in yet? Asking for a friend or 2 on horseplop!
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what did him is was when he got caught tubing TBs
You are correct one of the horses was A1 Rocket big scandal serious mobsters and bookies. I wont say more on here because I don't know who some of you are in real life
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Didnt he have Devonshire Hanover who went to 3/4s in 1:19 and change in an overnight
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Back in the 2003-2008 years we would sit in the Big M grandstand on Saturday nights. My ownership group always sat together and Bianca’s father was always there since he owned many of the very good horses his son trained. Let me say that the father seemed like a real nasty sob. He rarely held back when things did not go his way. He was also extremely unfriendly. I don’t know what became of him or if he had anything to do with his son’s doping crimes. In the paddock I would see junior who never seemed to talk to anyone. He kept his head down, never smiled and rarely said anything to anyone. A little strange to me back then.
Truth is Richie Banca's fortunes for good and bad changed when he got hooked up with Ross Croghan who taught them all
THERE WAS NONE BETTER EVER THAN CROGHAN
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The actions of all these guys was/is nothing but pure greed. They and they alone made the decisions that put them were they are.
Here is another tragedy that is seldom mentioned. How many good owners did these peckerheads destroy. They would jam them in for 20K when they could beat 40K claimers. A straight guy would make a claim and in 2 weeks their new investment could not out run a fat guy. Poof , new owner gets out and runs as far away from harness racing as he can. The damage was/is significant.
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The actions of all these guys was/is nothing but pure greed. They and they alone made the decisions that put them were they are.
Here is another tragedy that is seldom mentioned. How many good owners did these peckerheads destroy. They would jam them in for 20K when they could beat 40K claimers. A straight guy would make a claim and in 2 weeks their new investment could not out run a fat guy. Poof , new owner gets out and runs as far away from harness racing as he can. The damage was/is significant.
Its not just the likes of these two, For the most part and some will disagree, (Which is fine), a majority of race track vets are no different than whores. In fact they may be worse. They do things on their own, never consult the owner, go by what the trainer says, (the pimp), and then they extort the owners with a massaged bill. Now I will preface this by saying there are many fair and honest vets also. But you are not dealing with the mind sets of a neighborhood vet that is liked to your family doctor when it comes to your pet.
What I am getting at is that the is a sub culture in harness racing of bleeding an owner until they quit and move on, or they have the staying power that backs other people up for pulling these ancient tactics, and it comes back around.
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Didnt he have Devonshire Hanover who went to 3/4s in 1:19 and change in an overnight
That was Chansky. I had a horse finish 2nd to him, had to cut his own mile gapped so much in the pocket.
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Banca did have devonshire the night he went 3/4 119 canuseeme bow sat the 2 hole with yannick well not sitting 2 hole chasing i should say Georgie drove for Banca then
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Not arguing what Rene was about. Simply said he had talent. Unfortuantely, doping, cocaine, gambling and ties to the mob ruined his life and career. I once asked him what he needed to get even. He puffed his cigar and said, "Two lifetimes"
I agree
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Truth is Richie Banca's fortunes for good and bad changed when he got hooked up with Ross Croghan who taught them all
THERE WAS NONE BETTER EVER THAN CROGHAN
Wow did you hit the nail on the head! 👏 👏
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what did him is was when he got caught tubing TBs
It was more than that he’s a lowlife scum bag. I can’t tell you how many horses he ruined and starved.
Some fellow loser would tell him about a drug that would go through the box and the fucking idiot would use it on his horses without any research.
This French fucking Canadian was famous for 1 CC of equipoise on both sides of the neck IV! How fucking stupid was that?
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Will Grasso walk out of that place in 2026 or will they send him out sooner in a black bag? I'm going with the bag. 11.gn 11.gn