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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: The Thorn on July 19, 2023, 01:05:43 PM
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Elims this Saturday. First division features Fulton and Cannibal. Second division it's all It's My Show with a few semi decent horses in the race like the faster than his size Ken Hanover.
Tons of 2 yr PASS pacing colts on the card too. Race 4 has four or five horses that may be good enough to be around at the end of the year
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Ken Han might be way better than semi decent right now
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Beware of Gung Ho… they are talking him up like Bythemissal last year
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I dislike Linda Toscano and believe, given her resume, she is only in the HOF because she is a woman. I will be rooting strongly AGAINST her and her horses
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Ken Han might be way better than semi decent right now
He is good and loves the 5/8, all of his starts except 3 have been on 5/8. If he can get around the half milers they should put him in the Jug, his size should be perfect for Delaware.
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Beware of Gung Ho… they are talking him up like Bythemissal last year
He's not much stock. Burke spoke to soon on him...
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Yannick didn't think much of him either. He jumped ship for Cannibal and he's nothing special. Gung Ho was bad buy!
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What did they give for him?
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The Adios is a shell of what it used to be. Doesn't get all the good 3 yr olds anymore. WHY schedule it the week after Med Pace. Just stupid, just hope Roger stays away. Adios day was a party, no lots of parties. Grand stand packed, hill packed. Now just the Parkers tent on the hill. RIP Dwane
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Almosr feels like they catered to Lindas horse who wasnt Meadowlands Pace eligible
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It's always been this schedule pretty much. Meadowlands Pace is been moved back. There used to be a one week break between NA Cup and Pace. Now there is gap
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I do remember Meadowlands Pace was always first week in July Often on my Bday the 8th
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What did they give for him?
To much! ngc3 In the vicinity of 125k . You never know where these high speed youngsters will end up. The ones that look like the next coming will let you down and a ugly duckling can blossom into a swan!
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burke still trying to dig out of the $300k hole he paid for tip top cat last year
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Yeah, he's just well on his way to another 1100 plus win/20 million dollars earned year poor guy ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Almosr feels like they catered to Lindas horse who wasnt Meadowlands Pace eligible
?? Caterd how? The eligibility to these Grand Circuit events are initiated and maintained long before these younsters have proven that they can compete.
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How bout the bills a stable the size of his generate monthly? You wouldn't have to look hard for a barn with a higher R.O.I. than the brigade generates.
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The Meadows would be the first track to dump racing if they could.
Or Yonkers
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I’m glad YG picked off Gung Ho, he will be extra tuned up for Wrenn to win his first Adios! Plus the betting odds increase losing YG
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all me when it happens
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Who’s game is it? It’s my show and confederate >>> L A KNIGHT! YEAH!
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Please translate into English.
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Confederate will jerk It's my Shows bridle every day of the week
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Yeah, he's just well on his way to another 1100 plus win/20 million dollars earned year poor guy ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
With ALL his overhead for ALL the horses he trains, I wouldn't begin to comprehend how much he actually clears on 20 million the horses earned. Seeming that he only owns a percentage on most.
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The $20 million is what the horse earns. Burke has a car sales background. Burke does not own any of the horses himself, they are all partnerships. Most likely Burke Racing is billing his training fee to each of the partnerships. Burke Racing would also get the training share of any money each horse earns and also his share as an owner of any of the money the horse earns. Even if the horses Burke Racing owns in partnership with others earn $0, Burke Racing is getting paid the percentage of the training fees for the ownership percentage of others.
No shit! You think he was training them for free? ngc3
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The horses that are Burke/ (Weaver&Bushemi) are 50/50. Ronnie doesn't have a back ground in Car Sales ,that was his father, Mickey Sr. The Burke Stable is Ronnie and his mother, Sylvia, call the USTA. They have some horses that they aren't part owners of, like Donavan's. Ronnie gets the 5%, how it's split I got no idea. The overhead is amazing, they're doing ok. lol Most of the larger owners don't care they want to win races.
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…it’s his turn now… he… has been… unleashed!
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ITS MY SHOW was unreal today!
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I still think he's better than Confederate just because he is more handy and not a trip horse. If the fractions don't work out for Confederate he's no good.
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Ronnie never worked in the car business, the old man got out when he was a teen. Sylvia does the books. Ronnie has an unbelievable memory and a system. Weaver finds the horses and deals. They have a program to follow each of the horses. Mickey Sr was listed as trainer, Ronnie, Michelle and Mickey Jr worked their ass off. Jason Robinson was there for the start of the brigade. They all worked 18 hrs a day.
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I still think he's better than Confederate just because he is more handy and not a trip horse. If the fractions don't work out for Confederate he's no good.
Confederate is a trip horse? In what galaxy? Last week in the MP he came with a ferocious brush and crush first over last half sub 1:52 on cruise controle - Timmy says he has pone more gear in him. Pepsi NAP final he had a miserable trip . Stacked up 3rd over in a dead flow. Timmy (finally) tanked the right lane with zero momentum. Confederate hit a gear, was airborne deep stretch and missed by 2 strides ( head ) to Scottie who got everything his own way once he assumed command. Confederate came home in like 25.2
Cponfederate is an absolute gorilla under Pelling and gorillas are NOT trip horses.
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last half sub .52 slight correction
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They are close but since Its My Show skipped one of the biggest events of the year, I would like to see Confederate beat him every time the race against each other.
He didn't skip - He wasn't eligible.
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exactly
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Confederate is a trip horse? In what galaxy? Last week in the MP he came with a ferocious brush and crush first over last half sub 1:52 on cruise controle - Timmy says he has pone more gear in him. Pepsi NAP final he had a miserable trip . Stacked up 3rd over in a dead flow. Timmy (finally) tanked the right lane with zero momentum. Confederate hit a gear, was airborne deep stretch and missed by 2 strides ( head ) to Scottie who got everything his own way once he assumed command. Confederate came home in like 25.2
Cponfederate is an absolute gorilla under Pelling and gorillas are NOT trip horses.
Why is he stacked up 3rd over? Why is he 1st up? BECAUSE he has Zero gate speed and is a TRIP horse. Put that thing on front and roll down the highway one time and I'll change my tune.
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Why is he stacked up 3rd over? Why is he 1st up? BECAUSE he has Zero gate speed and is a TRIP horse. Put that thing on front and roll down the highway one time and I'll change my tune.
He’s done that already, but he is much better chasing. Very very good on the front end but chasing horses he’s as dangerous as any horse on the planet.
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He put on a show today. Great performance!
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The Adios is a shell of what it used to be. Doesn't get all the good 3 yr olds anymore. WHY schedule it the week after Med Pace. Just stupid, just hope Roger stays away. Adios day was a party, no lots of parties. Grand stand packed, hill packed. Now just the Parkers tent on the hill. RIP Dwane
Adios hasn’t got top horses since the 90s and Norm is a cunt. If they werent so tight with the race office, Norm would still be on suspension.
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Adios hasn’t got top horses since the 90s and Norm is a cunt. If they werent so tight with the race office, Norm would still be on suspension.
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I'll lay 20/1 against anyone that wants to take it that Confederate will not race in the Jug. He won't see a 1/2 or likely a 5/8 the rest of the year.
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Captain Chickenshit did the same thing.
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I'll lay 20/1 against anyone that wants to take it that Confederate will not race in the Jug. He won't see a 1/2 or likely a 5/8 the rest of the year.
I would be shocked going for a million he would be in it
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It’s my show
Best 3 yr old in country at this time
Effortless rsce yesterday in 47 and change
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It’s my show
Best 3 yr old in country at this time
Effortless rsce yesterday in 47 and change
And thats not coming from Frank. Its legit! ngc3
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It’s my show
Best 3 yr old in country at this time
Effortless rsce yesterday in 47 and change
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It’s my show
Best 3 yr old in country at this time
Effortless rsce yesterday in 47 and change
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Ashamed calling myself a handicaper ngc3 ngc3
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Through in a clunker to say the least. Horse is horrible back to back weeks. Has shown this before and today he was really bad. The two top horses in the country WILL NOT be in the Jug. No shot It's My Show races and Confederate will not be there either.
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Who was the listed trainer at the beginning. It was not Ron. I'm sure Ron learned a lot about the car sales business, you can see it in how they manage the racing operations.
What an absolute dumb fuck. Mickey was a full time harness racing trainer before Ronnie was a teenager.
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Through in a clunker to say the least. Horse is horrible back to back weeks. Has shown this before and today he was really bad. The two top horses in the country WILL NOT be in the Jug. No shot It's My Show races and Confederate will not be there either.
I feel like if it’s my show had won today they may have gone to the jug to secure year end honors. Now I feel like the only way they go is if they decide they want more money on his card rather than trying to take a speed mark at Lexington
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I feel like if it’s my show had won today they may have gone to the jug to secure year end honors. Now I feel like the only way they go is if they decide they want more money on his card rather than trying to take a speed mark at Lexington
He WILL NOT go after today guaranteed. He can't go two heats.
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He WILL NOT go after today guaranteed. He can't go two heats.
I was referring to Confederate. If it’s my show had won, Confederate would have needed another big win to push him over the top in the 3 yr old pacer of the year/horse of the year race.