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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Redacidsucks on July 12, 2023, 08:11:21 AM
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Starting today, The Indiana Race commission has suspended long time horseman Dale Hiteman from racing in all jurisdictions. The 67yr old Hiteman who walks around Hoosier with a bad attitude and probably should have retired 10yrs ago and is a nonfactor anymore on the track was caught on camera beating one of his horses in the stall with a lead shank. That’s not gonna happen at Hoosier they don’t play here they don’t care who you are. He’s gone.
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Hopefully, this will make certain he's a has been. Sounds like another Bobby Brower.
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Any mention of Dale Hiteman probably should be sent to the Nostalgia sub forum. Amirite?
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Hiteman got what he deserved. Too bad the horse didn’t kick him in the face
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Good- sounds like he's getting what he deserves. And I agree, it's unfortunate the horse didn't kick him in the fucking head
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Mrs. Hitman 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury/132519222/professional-rider-beat-horse-for-two-minutes-after-it-didnt-do-what-she-wanted-during-ap-show?c
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Good- sounds like he's getting what he deserves. And I agree, it's unfortunate the horse didn't kick him in the fucking head
They'd make a cute couple
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Fucking guy is a no hand bum anyway. How he made a living in this business is beyond me
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very bad gambler ,always dead brokeyt
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very bad gambler ,always dead brokeyt
Casinos would argue that differently ngc3
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Verified true story
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DALE IS DONE FOR LIFE. I DONT KNOW HOW ITS POSSIBLE, BUT HE WON SOMETHING LIKE 9000-10,000 RACES. GUESS BACK IN THE DAY THEY LEFT THE RAIL WIDE OPEN FOR HIM. WONDER WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO WITH HIS YOUNG HORSES. SOUNDS LIKE HES GOT THAT FILLY HE WAS BEATING ON READY TO QUALIFY. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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PUSSY HITEMAN SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE DOES BEST - STAYED AWAY FROM HORSES AND STUCK TO THE RAIL! INSTEAD HE NEARLY BEAT 1 TO DEATH. HE WON'T BE MISSED AT HOOSIER. LET SCIOTO HAVE HIM. BYE FELICIA HITEMAN! 11.wp
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Verified true story
Thanks, bruh. I now consider fact.
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Thanks, bruh. I now consider fact.
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According to USTA Fines and Suspensions report it is 30 days and $1,500.
When driving top FFA pacer Dirty Deeds or any horse with a chance to win, Dale was as aggresive as anyone. Especially at Maywood.
You do know that Dale won The Windy City Pace at Maywood back when that race brought in the best 3 year olds and drivers in the sport.
As a passing thought.
How many of you have tried to get a horse that is cast in the stall to get up?
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Enough times to know that beating them does no good........just grab the halter and slide them away
from the wall and they will get up on their own. Dale is a decent guy and has driven for me but I stopped using him because my wife said he never had the horses on the gate and he dropped to the rail too soon while never moving them forward. YEAH, I'm scared of her!!
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Enough times to know that beating them does no good........just grab the halter and slide them away
from the wall and they will get up on their own. Dale is a decent guy and has driven for me but I stopped using him because my wife said he never had the horses on the gate and he dropped to the rail too soon while never moving them forward. YEAH, I'm scared of her!!
Exactly The correct method grab the halter dont get in the "well" of thrashing legs and slide them away from the wall or corner Jimmy cruise once told me you can try pouring a little cold water in their ear never tried that one
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Mrs. Hitman 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury/132519222/professional-rider-beat-horse-for-two-minutes-after-it-didnt-do-what-she-wanted-during-ap-show?c
Right, because beating a horse senseless makes it want to do the right thing. These people should be beat senseless then maybe they will get a dose of doing the right thing. Fucking scum.
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.just grab the halter and slide them away
from the wall and they will get up on their own.
You make it sound so easy to drag a flat out prone horse around the stall. Makes me think you have never tried it.
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Grab Thier tail and drag em off the wall!!
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$70,214,869 and 8,764 wins
Year after year on four size racetracks Dale went toe to toe with the best Chicago had to offer.
A near spotless record and reputation. A lot more then can be said about those he was racing against.
The man deserves some respect!
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Grab Thier tail and drag em off the wall!!
Put that on video, and I bet you get days too.
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No..if the person in charge of watching video had a fn clue and knew that's how it's done they would say nice job..you don't yank it you gently grab and slide
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You make it sound so easy to drag a flat out prone horse around the stall. Makes me think you have never tried it.
In well over sixty years in the business, there isn't much legal stuff I haven't tried. Maybe I'm stronger than you because I have been more physically active during those years than just hitting keys on my keyboard as you apparently have been limited to...........This technique was mentioned only as advice to the neophyte horse person and really means nothing to a wise ass like you.
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In well over sixty years in the business, there isn't much legal stuff I haven't tried. Maybe I'm stronger than you because I have been more physically active during those years than just hitting keys on my keyboard as you apparently have been limited to...........This technique was mentioned only as advice to the neophyte horse person and really means nothing to a wise ass like you.
I started mucking stalls in the 50's.
Jogging in the 60's
Driving in the mid 60's
Sounds like we have a lot in common.
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PUSSY HITEMAN SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE DOES BEST - STAYED AWAY FROM HORSES AND STUCK TO THE RAIL! INSTEAD HE NEARLY BEAT 1 TO DEATH. HE WON'T BE MISSED AT HOOSIER. LET SCIOTO HAVE HIM. BYE FELICIA HITEMAN! 11.wp
Although Scioto took in Bobby Brower, for worse beatings, (Beating a horse while it laid on the ground), Ohio wont play that game either.
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and here is the video:
https://horseracingwrongs.org/2023/09/28/video-of-trainer-dale-hiteman-beating-his-2-year-old-horse/
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He will do what all the rest do! Send'em to race with a "beard"! Oaks was in Federal lock down and continued to race! The only thing different will be a name that you don't recognize!
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According to USTA Fines and Suspensions report it is 30 days and $1,500.
When driving top FFA pacer Dirty Deeds or any horse with a chance to win, Dale was as aggresive as anyone. Especially at Maywood.
You do know that Dale won The Windy City Pace at Maywood back when that race brought in the best 3 year olds and drivers in the sport.
As a passing thought.
How many of you have tried to get a horse that is cast in the stall to get up?
A guy that I know from the race track had a horse that beat Dirty Deeds.
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and here is the video:
https://horseracingwrongs.org/2023/09/28/video-of-trainer-dale-hiteman-beating-his-2-year-old-horse/
The horse in the next stall seemed upset when the beating started. Horrible. 11.wp 11.wp
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How is it that no one hasn't taken a set of lines to Hitesman?
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We all know how frustrating working with these animals can be at times but you have to remember that they didn't ask for any of this. There's a reason she's acting out. Horses aren't born bad actors. If you don't have the patience to deal with it you really need to move on. Beating an animal like that is horrific.
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The two things that stuck out to me was, as mentioned previosuly, the horse in the adjoining stall seemed genuinely comcerned as to what was happening, and that it was clear that Hiteman was acting out of anger.
If what has been said about this poor filly is true, she should not be at the racetrack. And if you find that you have to beat the beejeesus out of a 2yos to get them out on the track, you should find a new profession. Does anyone really believe what happened won't make her even more of a nut?
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The two things that stuck out to me was, as mentioned previosuly, the horse in the adjoining stall seemed genuinely comcerned as to what was happening, and that it was clear that Hiteman was acting out of anger.
If what has been said about this poor filly is true, she should not be at the racetrack. And if you find that you have to beat the beejeesus out of a 2yos to get them out on the track, you should find a new profession. Does anyone really believe what happened won't make her even more of a nut?
Well said this filly obviously was not broke and trained right. Most horses will put up a fight at some point of the breaking process but if handled properly with patience most will overcome it as they learn to trust you
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HITEMAN IS A HORRIBLE PERSON HIS HOLE LIFE. A REAL JACKOFF
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Now we need to come up with a symbol or avatar for a LUCPARK CERTIFICATION to authenticate insinuations in posted materials! LP CERTIFIED! would also make a great merch. campaign . (No disrespect intended) Looking to develop a GOLD STANDARD for faster processing of imput,that's all!
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Now we need to come up with a symbol or avatar for a LUCPARK CERTIFICATION to authenticate insinuations in posted materials! LP CERTIFIED! would also make a great merch. campaign . (No disrespect intended) Looking to develop a GOLD STANDARD for faster processing of imput,that's all!
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USTA Membership Action
Additional Details:
Your conduct is deemed detrimental to and reflects adversely and unfavorably on harness racing and on this association as specified in United States Trotting Association bylaw §1.04(a)(2). Further, this brutal conduct is evidence of a lack of general fitness and your participation in harness racing is not consistent with the best interest of the sport as specified in bylaw §1.04(a)(1). For the above reasons, the membership and licenses granted to you by the United States Trotting Association are revoked, pursuant to the authority granted by bylaw §1.08.
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I couldn't even watch the entire video!How this asshole is not barred for the rest of eternity is beyond me. This incident needs to be reported to The Humane Society or what ever they call it there,along with law enforcement! He deserves to be incarcerated! 91.jzail 91.jzail
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USTA Membership Action
Additional Details:
Your conduct is deemed detrimental to and reflects adversely and unfavorably on harness racing and on this association as specified in United States Trotting Association bylaw §1.04(a)(2). Further, this brutal conduct is evidence of a lack of general fitness and your participation in harness racing is not consistent with the best interest of the sport as specified in bylaw §1.04(a)(1). For the above reasons, the membership and licenses granted to you by the United States Trotting Association are revoked, pursuant to the authority granted by bylaw §1.08.
The local DA's office states they are aware and investigating. Hopefully he gets formally charged with Animal Cruelty, as well.
It was very hard to watch, and I was hoping he was going to get a permanent shoe impression to the head.
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HE MUST BE FRIENDS WITH SCM BECAUSE HE HASNT CALLED HOOSIER OR INVESTED A HORSE ABUSE CASE SINCE HIS NEPHEW CHRIS KILLED THAT ONE AT BATAVIA. SINCE THEN SCM BEEN ALL QUIET ABOUT HORSE ABUSE.
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USTA Membership Action
Additional Details:
Your conduct is deemed detrimental to and reflects adversely and unfavorably on harness racing and on this association as specified in United States Trotting Association bylaw §1.04(a)(2). Further, this brutal conduct is evidence of a lack of general fitness and your participation in harness racing is not consistent with the best interest of the sport as specified in bylaw §1.04(a)(1). For the above reasons, the membership and licenses granted to you by the United States Trotting Association are revoked, pursuant to the authority granted by bylaw §1.08.
An unusually strong staement by the USTA. I applaud then using the word "brutal".
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An unusually strong staement by the USTA. I applaud then using the word "brutal".
As mentioned many times over a USTA membership isn’t required at most tracks. Hiteman has been racing at hoosier and was racing at red mile in sire stakes
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As mentioned many times over a USTA membership isn’t required at most tracks. Hiteman has been racing is racing at hoosier and was racing at red mile in sire stakes
Yes, of course. Just saying they didn't ignore the issue or gloss it over.
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The following is a true story. Late 80s, I am doing a catch paddock for a trainer every single person on here has heard of at YR. He is using a well known catch driver, the horse is a year old mediocre NYSS type and is after the stakes season and the horse is racing in nw4/25,000 lifetime. Kind of an unreliable type as far as winning, the horse is just earning hos keep. Only the most ardent YR fans would remember the horse.
Now the stage is set. The horse has the 4 or 5 I cant remember Goes off somewhere between 5 and 10 to 1, gets a live trip, fails to fire, just about holding his ground to finish 4th. I meet the horse and the driver is really angry. He barely gets the lines on the hook, storms off looking i assume for the trainer. I head down to the paddock with the horse. My only real skin in the game is the $40 paddock and now was certainly not the time to say anything, although I knew both people quite well.
We are in that race ( like the 6th or something ) where the spit box and vet's room are past the lineup of horses. Plenty of people around besides the other grooms and trainers, etc. Suddenly, mid way through the horse's bath, the driver is storming towards our stall, colors down to his waste and helmet on with the trainer in tow. The driver tells me to get pout of the stall. The horse is dripping wet and soapy. I look at the trainer like WTF?
The driver goes past me into the stall, horse on crossties naturally and standing by his ribs, left side , proceeds to slash and leash the horses hind legs, above and below the hocks at least 5 times. Loud strikes that raise instant welts like ant trails under his coat. The horse of course is dancing around on the ties like crazy. Whole thing lasts maybe 20 seconds, but it was brutal. Driver says nothing, trainer does nothing and I am a young kid in shock.
Yes, my instinct was to protect my horse, but what was i really to do in the moment? I questioned myself a lot in the days afterwards. Had I been the owner or trainer, yes I would have tackled the driver to the ground and screamed for help if need be. The trainer did nothing. Driver and trainer were tight, so apparently the trainer was cool with it. Can you imagine being so sick and demented over a bet probably, that you could do that and right there in the paddock steps away from judges and the state vet? Not to mention in front of your peers. As it is, no one said or did a thing.
What did i do? I literally and without a word shoved the wet sponge and the 40 bucks I had fished out of my pocket into the trainers chest and said, "he's yours, you bathe him' I walked right out of the paddock and took a long shower, I felt so sick to my stomach and dirty. That relationship with the trainer was obviously over, although we had to still co-exist on the back stretch. There were other races and catch paddocks that involved the catch driver, of course. We barely spoke or made eye contact all those times. And he never, ever drove a horse for me when I was in charge. True story that has resonated with me my whole life.
Absolutely true story that all came flooding back reading about that helpless filly.
Thanks for listening...
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I see the typo Horse is a 3 year old
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ANY REASON FOR PROTECTING THE HORSE ABUSING DRIVER AND TRAINER AND TELLING US THEIR NAMES?
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ANY REASON FOR PROTECTING THE HORSE ABUSING DRIVER AND TRAINER AND TELLING US THEIR NAMES?
Yes, I have legit reasons. I see no upside, sorry.
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I don't think I could have walked away from that without getting myself into trouble.
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Yes, I have legit reasons. I see no upside, sorry.
Good for you. Shit like that goes on more than you think. I turned in a trainer for prodding. I told security where they could find the prod. The trainer got a 6 month suspension and $2500 fine. It happened at Freehold around 1978. Dirtbag is dead now but rumor has it, after he came back from suspension, he continued doing it.
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I respect your turning him in. I was young, shy in those days and in a fish bowl. All i can tell you is one of them is still in the business, one is not.
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I respect your turning him in. I was young, shy in those days and in a fish bowl. All i can tell you is one of them is still in the business, one is not.
I totally understand being in shock and not really know what to do , theres several who have taken them to the back track for beatings after a race, luckily now a days there are cameras everywhere and dont forget it is pretty easy to grab a whip and ask them how they like it
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Good- sounds like he's getting what he deserves. And I agree, it's unfortunate the horse didn't kick him in the fucking head
Horses dont kick back when they are beaten to submission thars why he better never be permitted around a horse again
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TY! And that man ( the driver ) had fury in his eyes. Real rage. Consider it's at least 10 minutes to get the horse inside, strip the equipment and get the bath going AND still he was so furious. Crazy.
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always like the reference to hiteman as the:
zombie in the sulky and the night of the driving dead.
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TY! And that man ( the driver ) had fury in his eyes. Real rage. Consider it's at least 10 minutes to get the horse inside, strip the equipment and get the bath going AND still he was so furious. Crazy.
Well because people like you still protect him they will continue to keep doing it. You could post the names on here and let’s us handle. You mean even now you’re still scared to share the abusers names? Come on man let us horseploppers handle these fucking assholes.
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It's not quite as simple as that. Nor is it about being scared. There were many people within eye and earshot who had to be at least semi aware of what happened. Nothing happened at the time. I am not on here to "out" people, especially 40 years later.
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Hiteman is gone who else should go ?
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What's happening to that Canadian horse killer at Monticello?
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The video of Hiteman beating the horse is on X, Hiteman is one sick pos
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Not on X, but my children are. I will reluctantly take a look. TY
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https://www.facebook.com/1336974155/videos/687718592959819/
https://twitter.com/HRUncovered/status/1710642826285838563?t=FoyXPRk48SrgqCbTtxtnVQ&s=19
Hate to ruin your party but again it was Petrelli and his group who forced the USTA to act.
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Who ever was responsible for exposing of this incident should be patted on the back and respected by ALL! It is highly unlikely that this is the first time that he has reacted in this manor! I hope any horse that he ever walks past, blasts him in his face with both barrells! OY'ITCH, KAPOW!
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what exactly did dale do to the horse?
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what exactly did dale do to the horse?
Smacked to horse around to get it back up on its feet. All the while on camera. What a DILDO.
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There are a number of people defending his actions on social media, which is just as appalling.
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https://www.facebook.com/1336974155/videos/687718592959819/
https://twitter.com/HRUncovered/status/1710642826285838563?t=FoyXPRk48SrgqCbTtxtnVQ&s=19
Hate to ruin your party but again it was Petrelli and his group who forced the USTA to act.
Not true. Another lie by you SCM. You have been quiet about horse abuse since your nephew killed that horse at Batavia. How come he never talks about that anymore and when you posted it on horseplop was saying oh if my nephew is guilty I will turn him in. Lmfao. You’re a fraud and liar SCM oh I mean ignorance is bliss. What happened when Chris killed that horse? A little too close for comfort SCM, I mean ignorance is bliss. Lmao.
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I am going to say something which in no way exonerates, excuses or sympathizes with Dale Hiteman, who I do not know or have ever met. Just a perspective. It seems as if the horse in thrashing about initially, got herself cast in her stall and Dale Hiteman inexplicably and with out excuse resorts to beating it in an effort to get it up. Could he be that ignorant and lacking in hprsemanship. When a horse is cast, you go to the head spinning it away from the wall in a way that it is now perpendicular to the wall rather than parallel. Whatever the situation, Hiteman's actions were drastic and abusive.
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I am going to say something which in no way exonerates, excuses or sympathizes with Dale Hiteman, who I do not know or have ever met. Just a perspective. It seems as if the horse in thrashing about initially, got herself cast in her stall and Dale Hiteman inexplicably and with out excuse resorts to beating it in an effort to get it up. Could he be that ignorant and lacking in hprsemanship. When a horse is cast, you go to the head spinning it away from the wall in a way that it is now perpendicular to the wall rather than parallel. Whatever the situation, Hiteman's actions were drastic and abusive.
Kinda the same way Chris Petrelli raced that crippled horse who was dead lame in the post parade at Batavia but was full of pain killers and eventually the horse had to be put down. Why doesn’t SCM talk about that one?
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Lies just make him more credible every time.you talk about him.
https://www.youtube.com/live/83asHxuw7LQ?si=d0cl-p7lt9S_e54D
https://www.youtube.com/live/yd3-FyPAriE?si=M0cBb3-hPaWCIsTe
And Fuguzzi if you knew what you were talking about you hear Hiteman say she was sitting on her tail. Which she was not. You dont drag a horse by its head. Pull by the tail not the head and neck. Hiteman has been around long enough and knows right from wrong. He is a nickel bred piece of white trash and beat on the filly out of anger. No excuse. Old saying with fillies and mares by good horsemen was sit on the whip and bite your lip.
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Lies just make him more credible every time.you talk about him.
https://www.youtube.com/live/83asHxuw7LQ?si=d0cl-p7lt9S_e54D
https://www.youtube.com/live/yd3-FyPAriE?si=M0cBb3-hPaWCIsTe
And Fuguzzi if you knew what you were talking about you hear Hiteman say she was sitting on her tail. Which she was not. You dont drag a horse by its head. Pull by the tail not the head and neck. Hiteman has been around long enough and knows right from wrong. He is a nickel bred piece of white trash and beat on the filly out of anger. No excuse. Old saying with fillies and mares by good horsemen was sit on the whip and bite your lip.
First of all, I do know what I am talking about. If you are alone you gave from the head - less body weight, safer for you , other reasons as well. Now, with another person the head and tail maneuver IS preferable. I ddn't listen to Hiteman, so I am not sure what he said. When i left racing I got involved with the high end dressage circuit. Believe me I have rescued many horses from getting cast. many ,more amateurs and backyard types as well as the professionals in that industry. I have seen horses pinned or thrashing in their stall many times and while others stood their wringing their hands, I went in grabbed a hold and spun them around. As long as you stay out of the "well " of their legs you'll be fine. Am I a hero, hell no. Do I know everything? Course not. But I am pretty damned good horseman, so take that "If you knew what you were talking about" shit somewhere else.
As I said, mine was only a perspective - very hard to tell just what the hell was going on there.
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Not that I need to justify myself to you, but Jesus Christ their are half dozen videos and articles on line for people that need them involving "freeing a cast horse" that begin with "grab the mane, grab the head" some assuming no halter...... Jimmy Cruise said poor cold water in the ear, gets em up every time.
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Wow a youtube horseman. How could we doubt you. There are videos on youtube that say the earth is flat. And do you think putting water in a horses ear is smart? We avoid that every time we bath them. Arent you a special kind of dumb.
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You want to be an insulting asshole, that's fine. I am no you tube horseman. I certainly don't have to explain or justify myself to you. I was simply saying that even on something as simple as youtube there are countless people who talking about "going for the head" ironic since you seem to live on youtibe. you appear to be an older man searching for an identity, but that's another story. And yeah, none other than Jimmy Cruise said that if you got one that can get up, but won't, "trickle a little cold water in their ear, works every time" Go argue with him and go take your shit elsewhere. Wish I never waded into your cesspool. say whatever you like, call me whatever you like, I will not indulge you with a response again. If you like jerking off into the wind, then by all means have at it
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Pretty lengthy non response. ngc3
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I'm pretty sure when Fug was in his prime training there was no youtube. He's a legit horseman. Just bc you don't agree with something he suggested doesn't make him wrong, Mike.
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Tube, yes. Youtube, no. wink/wink tmbz1
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If we followed his advice regarding this filly it is clear matters would have been made worse. 50 years and needed Youtube to use as proof. Look again and tell me what happens pulling.the filly wearing a bridle around by the head.
(https://iili.io/J3Yl8XI.jpg)
ngc3. Fugginmoron
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On Standardbred Canada
HITEMAN,DALE P
SC - RECIPROCAL TO USTA RULING - MEMBERSHIP AND LICENCES REVOKED
CONDUCT DEEMED DETRIMENTAL TO AND REFLECTS ADVERSELY AND UNFAVOURABLY ON
HARNESS RACING.
Date Issued : 11-Oct-2023
Suspended From 04-Oct-2023 Indefinitely (Full Suspension)
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On Standardbred Canada
HITEMAN,DALE P
SC - RECIPROCAL TO USTA RULING - MEMBERSHIP AND LICENCES REVOKED
CONDUCT DEEMED DETRIMENTAL TO AND REFLECTS ADVERSELY AND UNFAVOURABLY ON
HARNESS RACING.
Date Issued : 11-Oct-2023
Suspended From 04-Oct-2023 Indefinitely (Full Suspension)
Not long enough
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Suspended trainers can defend positive tests with simple jumbling of the facts. The problems with case are that it involves ABUSE and there is video of the incident occurring! D.H. won't even be able to get a job on a farm somewhere because NOBODY wants their stock treated like the defenseless filly in the video! He didn't dig himself into a hole, he dug himself into a CRATOR!
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Not really apparently there's a lot of sick people in this business and the way to break them is to beat the shit out of them, apparently D.H ways are nothing new 🤮
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Sad but unfortunately it is true!
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If we followed his advice regarding this filly it is clear matters would have been made worse. 50 years and needed Youtube to use as proof. Look again and tell me what happens pulling.the filly wearing a bridle around by the head.
(https://iili.io/J3Yl8XI.jpg)
ngc3. Fugginmoron
GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE. YOU BEEN QUIET SINCE OLD NEPHEW KILLED THAT CRIPPLED HORSE AT BATAVIA. HORSEPLOPPERS DONT WANT YOU OR NEED YOU HERE. GO BLOW A GOAT YOU OLD MAN
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DOES ANY PLOPPER THINK DALE HITEMAN WILL EVER RACE A HORSE AGAIN UNDER HIS OWN NAME. I MEAN OWN, DRIVE OR TRAIN?
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Seems unlikely
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Even the Canadian Regulatory Authority has taken steps to make it clear that he is not welcome to apply for licensing. This type of activity is not a one off occurrence,it was the first time that it was conducted on camera! He will be lucky if he escapes criminal prosecution in this case!
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Can't help but remember what I saw Dave Marshall due to a horse with a 2x4 in the paddock at Foxboro. You guys would have had him drawn and quartered and rightfully so. Suspended? no. Arrested? no. Hell he raced that night and for decades after. Most of you will recall I detailed what I witnessed when I first joined the site. what an entirely different world that was.
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Even the Canadian Regulatory Authority has taken steps to make it clear that he is not welcome to apply for licensing. This type of activity is not a one off occurrence,it was the first time that it was conducted on camera! He will be lucky if he escapes criminal prosecution in this case!
I believe this happened at Hoosier -- correct me if I'm wrong. Are all the stalls under surveillance there?
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The perception of ethical treatment has come a long way! Back in the early 70's it was common for a horse to be struck in the legs with a whip for pawing in the race paddock,or for a driver to use the butt end of the whip on a horses nose for grabbing on too much warming up. I'm glad those days and guys are gone!
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I believe this happened at Hoosier -- correct me if I'm wrong. Are all the stalls under surveillance there?
Yes all stalls At Hoosier are under cameras
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Thanks.
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I believe this happened at Hoosier -- correct me if I'm wrong. Are all the stalls under surveillance there?
OMG YES EVERYTHING AT HOOSIER IS ON CAMERA. EVEN WHEN YOU JOG AND TRAIN ON THE TRACK EVERYTHING IS RECORDED. THATS WHY IF YOU STABLE THERE YOU ARE FUCT. BETTER TO GO TO A NEARBY FARM. I DONT CONDONE ANY TYPE BULLSHIT LIKE HITEMAN DID BUT I FIND IT VERY HARD THAT HE WONT BE LET BACK IN AT SOME POINT. HELL IVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE GET A LIFETIME BAN. EVEN PEOPLE WHO WERE CAUGHT FIXING RACES AND ROUGHING UP PEOPLE BUT STILL IN DUE TIME THEY WERE BACK ALA WALTER CASE JR AND JOHNNY ROCKET ROBERTS IN CHICAGO.
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DOES ANY PLOPPER THINK DALE HITEMAN WILL EVER RACE A HORSE AGAIN UNDER HIS OWN NAME. I MEAN OWN, DRIVE OR TRAIN?
Any big stable farm or training center will hire him before winter starts, hell a big name is being investigated for the same thing as we speak, cameras everywhere people, why ya all so stupid??
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He is a deek ;D
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Any big stable farm or training center will hire him before winter starts, hell a big name is being investigated for the same thing as we speak, cameras everywhere people, why ya all so stupid??
I AGREE. HORSE ABUSE AND KILLINGS IS THE "NORM" IN HARNESS RACING TODAY. IN FACT JUST THINK ABOUT THIS. YOU WILL NEVER GET A BIG MONEY OWNER TO INVEST IN YOUR BARN UNLESS YOUVE KILLED A FEW OR HAD A FEW HOT TESTS. NO OWNER WILL INVEST MONEY WITH ANY TRAINER WHO DOESNT KILL, ABUSE OR DRUG THEIR HORSES. IN FACT OWNERS SHOULD BE FLOCKING TO HITEMEN BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. HE IS EXACTLY WHAT BIG MONEY GUYS LIKE OVERHISER MARTY ENGLE, GURAL, ETC ETC ARE LOOKING FOR. IF YOU DONT AT LEAST GET A POSTIVE TEST NO OWNER WILL EVER GIVE YOU A HORSE TO TRAIN.
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DOES ANY PLOPPER THINK DALE HITEMAN WILL EVER RACE A HORSE AGAIN UNDER HIS OWN NAME. I MEAN OWN, DRIVE OR TRAIN?
At 67 years old and after 8,766 wins and $70+ million he may not want to race again.
Years ago in Chicago when he was winning, didn't he marry into some serious big money? Is he still married?
If Jerry Graham and Scott Nance can come back from USTA indefinate suspensions, then given a little time I think Dale will too. That is if he wants to.
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At 67 years old and after 8,766 wins and $70+ million he may not want to race again.
Years ago in Chicago when he was winning, didn't he marry into some serious big money? Is he still married?
If Jerry Graham and Scott Nance can come back from USTA indefinate suspensions, then given a little time I think Dale will too. That is if he wants to.
TRUST ME, HE WANTS TO COME BACK. HE IS PLAYING HIMSELF TO BE THE VICTIM. NOW THAT THIS HAPPENED, THE DEEP POCKET OWNERS WILL COME RUNNING TO HIM TO TRAIN THIER HORSES. OWNERS LOVE GUYS LIKE THAT
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At 67 years old and after 8,766 wins and $70+ million he may not want to race again.
Years ago in Chicago when he was winning, didn't he marry into some serious big money? Is he still married?
If Jerry Graham and Scott Nance can come back from USTA indefinate suspensions, then given a little time I think Dale will too. That is if he wants to.
I predict, that if Dale wants, that he will be ow/tr/dr on opening night of Haw. meet Oct 19 ,2024.
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I predict, that if Dale wants, that he will be ow/tr/dr on opening night of Haw. meet Oct 19 ,2024.
THANK YOU. HE CAN GO TO HAWTHORNE RIGHT NOW IF HE WANTED. IF HE HAS ANY POSITIVE TESTS AT ALL THE BIG MONEY OWNERS WILL BUY A FEW HORSES AND HE CAN ABUSE THEM TOO. OWNERS LOVE GUYS LIKE THAT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP WINNING.
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Once his suspension is over on Indiana he can easily get licensed in Pa,Oh and Illinois. Sadly
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Once his suspension is over on Indiana he can easily get licensed in Pa,Oh and Illinois. Sadly
THIS IS NOT A SUSPENSION! HIS LICENSES HAVE BEEN REVOKED,TAKEN AWAY,NULLIFIED OR CANCELED!
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THIS IS NOT A SUSPENSION! HIS LICENSES HAVE BEEN REVOKED,TAKEN AWAY,NULLIFIED OR CANCELED!
USTA and SC license doesn’t mean crap. As soon as any state issues a license the USTA will have no say
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At 67 years old and after 8,766 wins and $70+ million he may not want to race again.
Years ago in Chicago when he was winning, didn't he marry into some serious big money? Is he still married?
If Jerry Graham and Scott Nance can come back from USTA indefinate suspensions, then given a little time I think Dale will too. That is if he wants to.
Earnings mean nothing unless you are an educated investor. 'Don't tell me about how much you made,shoe me how much you saved! is the only thing that matters when your career comes to a screeching halt!
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Hiteman has been charged with animal cruelty
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Good news! However if it were a Felony charge, it could be more of a deterrent! I hope he goes bankrupt trying to fight the case , if he is dumb enough to do so! 11.wp 11.wp
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He is dumb enough
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I agree Mailbox Money, I'm not familiar with the animal cruelty laws in Indiana.
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one count class A misdemeanor . Max of a year in a county jail and / or 5k fine. Even upon conviction he would be sentenced to probation or a diversion program. ( assuming no prior serious criminal history ) This will plea out.
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Does any horseplop know his bail amount? Big news down here at Hoosier and all over the local newscast.
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We need to run an ad in the papers where he has history, asking for anyone who has seen any of this behavior in the past,to contact the Indiana prosecutor in this case! ngc3 tmbz1 11.wp
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Does any horseplop know his bail amount? Big news down here at Hoosier and all over the local newscast.
Bail for a class A misdemeanor can't be too bad. Prolly 10k/10% cash
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Bail for a class A misdemeanor can't be too bad. Prolly 10k/10% cash
He probably has that in his back pocket. I know what he did was totally wrong but it seems like they are trying to make an example of him? Hiteman must of pissed off the wrong person. Where in the fuck are the other abusers frank bourgalt and Chris petrelli who killed their horses? They both need to be ctiminslly charged right along side of Hiteman.
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Other than a name in the program, I wouldn;t know Dale Hiteman if he was laying next to me, but many on here say he was a miserable old fuck, Could that be coming into play?
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He probably has that in his back pocket. I know what he did was totally wrong but it seems like they are trying to make an example of him? Hiteman must of pissed off the wrong person. Where in the fuck are the other abusers frank bourgalt and Chris petrelli who killed their horses? They both need to be ctiminslly charged right along side of Hiteman.
There is no way in hell that this was an isolated incident! If he would have been caught on the 1st time,there's no telling how many beatings may have been prevented! If I ever see him in public, he will be leaving our meeting with a loogy on his face and a boot to his balls!GAROWNTEED!💯
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Other than a name in the program, I wouldn;t know Dale Hiteman if he was laying next to me, but many on here say he was a miserable old fuck, Could that be coming into play?
Been a miserable fuck his whole life
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No bond, don't think he was actually arrested. Just served papers
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Poor Dale is being set up I worked for him many years never seen him touch a horse it'll come out this video is fake hey dale if you need a paper trainer all you have to do is call let's stick it up these people's ass
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Way better to be a has been than a never was.
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Petrelli will attest to that tmbz1
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I heard that a big time trainer in Ohio was caught on camera beating a horse and was told to get a lawyer and be prepared but the powers to be are trying to sweep it under the rug
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Not exactly swept under the rug, unless there is more than one instance. From USTA fines......
LUPTON, BREVIN MT GILEAD, OH YOB UNKN
DTN on 10/19/2023 FINED: $1,000
FULL - 365 DAYS, 10/25/2023 THRU 10/23/2024
ANY ACT OF CRUELTY TO A HORSE
OSRC 3769-12-26-A(9&10). A video was sent to the office of the Ohio State Racing
Commission which shows Mr. Lupton engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse. After a
hearing in the judges office at Dayton Raceway on 10/19/23, at which Mr. Lupton appeared
along with counsel, Mr. Lupton is fined $1000 and given a 365 day suspension (10-25-2023
through 10-23-2024) for engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse and for conduct against the
best interest of horse racing. This case is also referred to the OSRC for any further penalty
they may deem necessary. The fine is due within 10 days of the ruling. During his
suspension, Mr. Lupton is denied the use and privileges of all the grounds sanctioned by
the OSRC. Mr. Lupton has 48 hours to appeal this decision to the OSRC
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Not exactly swept under the rug, unless there is more than one instance. From USTA fines......
LUPTON, BREVIN MT GILEAD, OH YOB UNKN
DTN on 10/19/2023 FINED: $1,000
FULL - 365 DAYS, 10/25/2023 THRU 10/23/2024
ANY ACT OF CRUELTY TO A HORSE
OSRC 3769-12-26-A(9&10). A video was sent to the office of the Ohio State Racing
Commission which shows Mr. Lupton engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse. After a
hearing in the judges office at Dayton Raceway on 10/19/23, at which Mr. Lupton appeared
along with counsel, Mr. Lupton is fined $1000 and given a 365 day suspension (10-25-2023
through 10-23-2024) for engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse and for conduct against the
best interest of horse racing. This case is also referred to the OSRC for any further penalty
they may deem necessary. The fine is due within 10 days of the ruling. During his
suspension, Mr. Lupton is denied the use and privileges of all the grounds sanctioned by
the OSRC. Mr. Lupton has 48 hours to appeal this decision to the OSRC
These guys are just plain idiots
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Not exactly swept under the rug, unless there is more than one instance. From USTA fines......
LUPTON, BREVIN MT GILEAD, OH YOB UNKN
DTN on 10/19/2023 FINED: $1,000
FULL - 365 DAYS, 10/25/2023 THRU 10/23/2024
ANY ACT OF CRUELTY TO A HORSE
OSRC 3769-12-26-A(9&10). A video was sent to the office of the Ohio State Racing
Commission which shows Mr. Lupton engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse. After a
hearing in the judges office at Dayton Raceway on 10/19/23, at which Mr. Lupton appeared
along with counsel, Mr. Lupton is fined $1000 and given a 365 day suspension (10-25-2023
through 10-23-2024) for engaging in an act of cruelty to a horse and for conduct against the
best interest of horse racing. This case is also referred to the OSRC for any further penalty
they may deem necessary. The fine is due within 10 days of the ruling. During his
suspension, Mr. Lupton is denied the use and privileges of all the grounds sanctioned by
the OSRC. Mr. Lupton has 48 hours to appeal this decision to the OSRC
Thars a new way to make the groom take all the blame! LOL Pitiful, it never ends! I wouldn't ever work for these big time trainers for sure they just throw everyone under the bus!
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brian brown groom got suspended
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brian brown groom got suspended
Lupton is no big time trainer. All you have to do is connect the dots to get to the trainer
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Ok y’all seem to know the story. Was Brian caught on video or the groom??
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Ok y’all seem to know the story. Was Brian caught on video or the groom??
LOL the answer is at the Log Cabin, release the video 😝👏🤣
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Log Cabin = The vault for storage of all evidence related to Harness Racings prominent scandals,sitting in plain sight! tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3