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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Here they come on June 29, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
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Haven’t seen any good ones yet. None I’ve seen seem to carry their speed.
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That's what it looks like so far. 101 foals 12 have marks but only one under 2.00
For comparison
Chapter 7 from 91 foals 23 have marks 10 under 2.00
Walner from 103 foals 17 have marks 9 under 2.00
Muscle Hill 70 foals 8 with marks 3 under 2.00
It does seem like going under 2.00 is pretty rare so far this year for most 2 yr old trotters. Seems times are overall slower than the past few years from what I remember. Maybe it's not hot enough.
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Hanover doesn’t typically miss on their higher end stallions. He’s got a ton of support, maybe they’re just taking longer to get gaited?
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Too early to tell yet, but he has been afforded every opportunity in terms of mares. If he flops this year I imagine Hanover will drop him like a hot potato.
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I think Gimpanzee will get the job done. Wonderfully bred, speed, great looking horse and made lots of money.
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I think Gimpanzee will get the job done. Wonderfully bred, speed, great looking horse and made lots of money.
Agree with this.
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It is too early to judge him as a stallion. Not much money on the line yet. But Melander did him no favors by bringing a bunch to qualifying races that were not ready
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I think Gimpanzee will get the job done. Wonderfully bred, speed, great looking horse and made lots of money.
His semen sucks, they only ship same day counter to counter!
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Just watched 2yr ols at the meadows. Not really impressed with the greenshoe's. For the $ you spend they ain't any monsters out there, look like nice horses but that's all.
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Just watched 2yr ols at the meadows. Not really impressed with the greenshoe's. For the $ you spend they ain't any monsters out there, look like nice horses but that's all.
Agree tmbz1 tmbz1
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he'll be another Father Patrick or Trixton
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That's what it looks like so far. 101 foals 12 have marks but only one under 2.00
For comparison
Chapter 7 from 91 foals 23 have marks 10 under 2.00
Walner from 103 foals 17 have marks 9 under 2.00
Muscle Hill 70 foals 8 with marks 3 under 2.00
It does seem like going under 2.00 is pretty rare so far this year for most 2 yr old trotters. Seems times are overall slower than the past few years from what I remember. Maybe it's not hot enough.
Here's an update on all leading trotting sires of 2 year olds by state as of this morning Remember it's still early so earnings don't mean that much but this should be somewhat telling of which sires produce early in their careers speed.
Columns are Number of Foals How many have marks How many 2.00 or under Earnings
New Jersey
Muscle Hill 70 17 11 53000
Six Pack 85 16 6 115000
Tactical Landing 100 23 13 147000
Walner 103 31 20 290000
Pennsylvania
Bar Hopping 62 14 8 132000
Cantab Hall 83 20 3 130000
Father Patrick 100 30 14 252000
Greenshoe 101 22 11 154000
International Moni 102 18 7 112000
New York
Chapter Seven 91 29 17 310000
E L Titan 50 11 2 64000
Ohio
Long Tom 91 21 4 176000
What the Hill 84 14 3 145000
Uncle Peter 54 17 3 110000
Indiana
Dover Dan 47 8 4 90000
Swan For All 95 16 7 101000
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Nice work, Thorny. I am confident it will be a much different picture come November.