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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Fuguzzi on June 14, 2023, 10:53:29 PM
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He will one day be the all time wins leader as the first driver to reach 25,000 victories.
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He will one day be the all time wins leader as the first driver to reach 25,000 victories.
Very possible
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He will one day be the all time wins leader as the first driver to reach 25,000 victories.
Possibly, form your own conclusions:
http://fanguide.ustrotting.com/dt_stars_profiles.cfm?id=233089
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Of those potential 25k wins, how many will be outside ohio and the meadows?
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I get your point, but come on 15,000 wins by the age of 45. Only driver in history to win 1000 plus more than once If not for a season with 999 he would have done it three times instead of twice. Plus he has been the leading wins driver 8 years straight and is headed for 9 times as he leads in wins this year. just saying his numbers are astonishing.
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Of those potential 25k wins, how many will be outside ohio and the meadows?
Not many.
What do you thinks keeps a dude like that motivated (beyond money) to show up to the same places working mostly with same folks day in day out for the last 25 years....and possibly another 10 or so?
It reminds me of a teacher, teaching the same curriculum, some horses great and some not so much....like that teacher's students, smart and dumb.
Might be a small pond, but the sucker has endurance - physical, mental and emotional.
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Great numbers but it's in the minor leagues. Same with Dave Palone for so many years. It doesn't mean much at all.
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Mathematically it’s possible A.M. to beat D.P. but in theory it’s going to very hard for Aaron to do it. First DP would have to stop driving in the next 2 yrs or so. Then Aaron needs quite a few things to happen, 1 never get hurt over the 10 years, 2 Northfield to keep racing all year, which going with the trend of all the tracks now could be possible in the next few years Northfield could shorten their meet to 4-6 months, which would pull a lot of the Southern Ohio guys in if the 4 tracks had a circuit. 3 and I think the biggest variable that no new driver comes into town, situation like when Matty K started driving there. Had the money been what it was now he may not have left or at least stayed longer.4 the mental toll that would have on A.M. if an upcoming, new talent rolled into town and dethroned Aaron.
Just my thoughts. Man in red us going to be hard to catch, a lot would have to fall into place, biggest piece is DP stepping away in the next few years.
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I think Merriman will push on, while Timmy T. may decide to "relax" a bit in the next 5-10 years, but as it stands today, if they both went "all in" it is pretty close, as Timmy T is only 1500 wins behind AM and he is 3 + years younger, so definitely in range. HOWEVER, when he climbs out of the sulky and walks, JUST MY OPINION, but it looks like those hips may be causing him some discomfort.
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Dave stayed at the Meadows all those years because he wasn't a money whore like some of these other drivers. Dave had the skill to drive with all those guys over the years. Remember when Sears and D Miller were at the Meadows to name a few he was still the leading driver and the year the snowstorm kept a few of the big drivers from making it to Woodbine for the Breeders Crown he picked up a couple drives and had the best results from all the drivers there that night. Sure staying at the Meadows helped his numbers but don't act like couldn't of competed with the best of the. He just decided being a good family man was more important than running all over the East coast and abandoning his family like half these other clowns do.
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I overheard some of the Scioto drivers talking about Merriman's schedule and they don't know he does it year after year. Say what you wish about the venue but he grinds/works his tail off.
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Aron is a hard working dedicated guy. Always interesting to watch him and Wrenn battle it out.
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Staying healthy and luck will determine how he does.
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Staying healthy and luck will determine how he does.
Uh, this is true for all of us, no matter our vocation.
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The other factor I over looked is Aaron being able to keep up that schedule as he gets older.
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He has to keep pushing in order to pay the tab on his sports betting tabs.Word on the backside a few years back was almost 30k on the NBA season alone! I hope thats not the case but ya never know.
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Idle gossip - who cares?
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He has to keep pushing in order to pay the tab on his sports betting tabs.Word on the backside a few years back was almost 30k on the NBA season alone! I hope thats not the case but ya never know.
Modern Day Herve Filion. So what. He can afford it and when he can't he will stiff a 2/5 from the rail.
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Herve? There was no one buried like Herve He was stuck 2 million at times - atlantic city was holding a big part of that debt and I ma not just talking out my ass
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Herve? There was no one buried like Herve He was stuck 2 million at times - atlantic city was holding a big part of that debt and I ma not just talking out my ass
which hotel?
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Trump Taj Mahal I gave Herve and Luc a couple rides there after the races on saturday nights from YR we'd stay the rest of the weekend they would gamble upstairs in a private casino only hotel i am familiar with as far as Herve He did a lot of sports gambling but i will not identify with whom on here
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Trump Taj Mahal I gave Herve and Luc a couple rides there after the races on saturday nights from YR we'd stay the rest of the weekend they would gamble upstairs in a private casino only hotel i am familiar with as far as Herve He did a lot of sports gambling but i will not identify with whom on here
tmbz1
The Taj was nice back in the day
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Agreed Id play 5 / 10 stud downstairs in their big poker room while waiting for them
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Herve? There was no one buried like Herve He was stuck 2 million at times - atlantic city was holding a big part of that debt and I ma not just talking out my ass
Any chance the Capital Hill Farm fire was to correct that ?
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Pretty sure that fire predated the time I am referring to and I certainly would not want to think that way
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Also, Herve pretty much died broke. He ended up on his son in law's farm, I think he was Irish, Jim something, working as a groom People told me they saw an aged Herve cleaning stalls. Very sad.
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Also, Herve pretty much died broke. He ended up on his son in law's farm, I think he was Irish, Jim something, working as a groom People told me they saw an aged Herve cleaning stalls. Very sad.
That's very sad.
My 3 best memories of Herve were, him yelling at me in the winner's circle, he spit at me by the fence at Freehold (wide left) and he opted off a 1/5 can't lose at Roosevelt and took the 10-1 shot from post 7. The 1/5 won by 5 with Mike LaChance and Herve got the price horse from post 7 up for 2nd. $35 exacta was very sweet.
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Dave stayed at the Meadows all those years because he wasn't a money whore like some of these other drivers. Dave had the skill to drive with all those guys over the years. Remember when Sears and D Miller were at the Meadows to name a few he was still the leading driver and the year the snowstorm kept a few of the big drivers from making it to Woodbine for the Breeders Crown he picked up a couple drives and had the best results from all the drivers there that night. Sure staying at the Meadows helped his numbers but don't act like couldn't of competed with the best of the. He just decided being a good family man was more important than running all over the East coast and abandoning his family like half these other clowns do.
Hey, I loved Merriman & Palone especially when they were 2/5 and I had the best horse. Happened a lot at the Meadows with Stillings.
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That's very sad.
My 3 best memories of Herve were, him yelling at me in the winner's circle, he spit at me by the fence at Freehold (wide left) and he opted off a 1/5 can't lose at Roosevelt and took the 10-1 shot from post 7. The 1/5 won by 5 with Mike LaChance and Herve got the price horse from post 7 up for 2nd. $35 exacta was very sweet.
Over many years I owned about 18-20 horses, all racing the "big 3" circuit. Of those, I only owned one pacer; the rest were trotters. The only horse Herve drove for me was the pacer and Herve was really sensational...Pac er was "Silky Sullivan" in that he could be last by 15 lengths at the 3/4 but would be charging with the leaders in the final yards.. Herve would drive him to perfection and the horse outdid himself.
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Hey, I loved Merriman & Palone especially when they were 2/5 and I had the best horse. Happened a lot at the Meadows with Stillings.
Nice for you but those two guys will win over 40, 000 races and Stillings?
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Nice for you but those two guys will win over 40, 000 races and Stillings?
......is in the HOF having won several Little Brown Jugs and Merriman will always be a shit kicker who races over nights at a Bull Ring. He will probably win 100,000 races but who really cares. Do you really think he is a Grand Circuit driver? Aaron has carved out a place that suits him, and cudos to him for having done that. I would rather watch a good Badmitten match than that carousel at Northfield. David Miller had his start in Ohio at Northfield I believe and look at him now. Would you like to make a comparison?
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Over many years I owned about 18-20 horses, all racing the "big 3" circuit. Of those, I only owned one pacer; the rest were trotters. The only horse Herve drove for me was the pacer and Herve was really sensational...Pac er was "Silky Sullivan" in that he could be last by 15 lengths at the 3/4 but would be charging with the leaders in the final yards.. Herve would drive him to perfection and the horse outdid himself.
Quite a coincidence that there was a thoroughbred named Silky Sullivan who raced in the late 50's and was the 'talk of the town' for being able to make up incredible deficits of 15 to 40 lengths with Bill shoemaker up. It's in Wiki.
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Quite a coincidence that there was a thoroughbred named Silky Sullivan who raced in the late 50's and was the 'talk of the town' for being able to make up incredible deficits of 15 to 40 lengths with Bill shoemaker up. It's in Wiki.
That reminds me of Nickawampus Leroy.
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......is in the HOF having won several Little Brown Jugs and Merriman will always be a shit kicker who races over nights at a Bull Ring. He will probably win 100,000 races but who really cares. Do you really think he is a Grand Circuit driver? Aaron has carved out a place that suits him, and cudos to him for having done that. I would rather watch a good Badmitten match than that carousel at Northfield. David Miller had his start in Ohio at Northfield I believe and look at him now. Would you like to make a comparison?
I dont know what your anger is about? I simply stated that Aaron Merriman will likely be the all time wins leader when he hangs em up. I never said he was a grand circuit driver nor did I fail to acknowledge the inadequicies of the circuits he drives on. I have respect for everyone on here and dont yell or curse at them and have paid my dues in this game for nearly 50 years, as have you, so don't come on here treating me badly.
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I dont know what your anger is about? I simply stated that Aaron Merriman will likely be the all time wins leader when he hangs em up. I never said he was a grand circuit driver nor did I fail to acknowledge the inadequicies of the circuits he drives on. I have respect for everyone on here and dont yell or curse at them and have paid my dues in this game for nearly 50 years, as have you, so don't come on here treating me badly.
I didn't curse at anybody and if I offended you, I apologize!
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Have a hug and a kiss, it's father's day, that includes great great great great grandfathers too! ;D
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lololol
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Trump Taj Mahal I gave Herve and Luc a couple rides there after the races on saturday nights from YR we'd stay the rest of the weekend they would gamble upstairs in a private casino only hotel i am familiar with as far as Herve He did a lot of sports gambling but i will not identify with whom on here
'Birds of a feather, fly together? Herve and the owner of the Taj Mahal at the time?
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tmbz1
The Taj was nice back in the day
Is this hotel still standing today? Asking for a friend!
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Is this hotel still standing today? Asking for a friend!
Yes... it's a Ramada or something else now.
You still have the Volkswagen?
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Yes... it's a Ramada or something else now.
You still have the Volkswagen?
No volkswagen, but thank you for asking. Only 155k on it.
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That reminds me of Nickawampus Leroy.
Actually, my horse was not named Silky Sullivan, I used it in quotes as he was a "Silky Sullivan"-kind of horse, doing exactly what you remember. I remember Nickawampus...he had such a "racky" gait, but George Phalen was able to make up tons of ground with him once he unloaded him.
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Actually, my horse was not named Silky Sullivan, I used it in quotes as he was a "Silky Sullivan"-kind of horse, doing exactly what you remember. I remember Nickawampus...he had such a "racky" gait, but George Phalen was able to make up tons of ground with him once he unloaded him.
Understand! It was an analogy and a good one.
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Is this hotel still standing today? Asking for a friend!
The Taj is looooong gone, alas.