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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Fuguzzi on June 14, 2023, 02:58:11 PM
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These guys worked, gambled and cheated together (very well)....
YR/RR
Rejean Daigneault and Gerry Sarama
John Patterson Jr and Donald Dancer
Joe Marsh jr and Jimmy Marohn
Herve Filion and Billy Bresnahan ( mostly Freehold )
Herve /Henri Filion and anyone who would listen...LOLOL
Cat Manzi/George Brennan and Ron Pierce were a tightknit trio at the BigM
Monticello - Billy Parker, Jimmy Taggart, John Desimone - deadly combo in triples ( talking the 1990s )
Name some more/ other tracks?
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Doug Brown and Dave Wall Greenwood
Mike Lachance Daniel Dube Luc Ouellette Big M
Pete Wrenn Kevin Wallis Hazel Park (Mugski ran the orchestra).
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Case and Luc - Yonkers 80's, 90's!
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Doug Brown and Dave Wall Greenwood
Mike Lachance Daniel Dube Luc Ouellette Big M
Pete Wrenn Kevin Wallis Hazel Park (Mugski ran the orchestra).
[/quoteI understand the easy assumption because of the family relationship, but i was close to Luc and he drove for us alot and I personally do not believe he was screwing around at the BigM when it came to gambling with Mike. I do however agree that they helped eachother with trips and holes in the big money races. Especially the 98 Meadowlands pace ( Dayinalife ) Still the stretch duel between Redbowtie and Colormebest in the US Pacing Championship between uncle and nephew still gives me chills
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Case and Luc - Yonkers 80's, 90's!
You are the last person I want to argue with on here but you are wrong about those two Definitely not cohorts
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Doug Brown and Dave Wall Greenwood
Mike Lachance Daniel Dube Luc Ouellette Big M
Pete Wrenn Kevin Wallis Hazel Park (Mugski ran the orchestra).
[/quoteI understand the easy assumption because of the family relationship, but i was close to Luc and he drove for us alot and I personally do not believe he was screwing around at the BigM when it came to gambling with Mike. I do however agree that they helped eachother with trips and holes in the big money races. Especially the 98 Meadowlands pace ( Dayinalife ) Still the stretch duel between Redbowtie and Colormebest in the US Pacing Championship between uncle and nephew still gives me chills
My father would know the name of the restaurant but they always had lunch there and plotted as you say giving holes, letting Luc retake easy etc
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You are the last person I want to argue with on here but you are wrong about those two Definitely not cohorts
1 Case, 2 Luc around the track, other than open handicaps in pacers and trotters where you tried the 6, 7 over the 8 and was driver superfluous, hell yeah...I was there, paid bills with their antics...and Wojcio was in 3rd place, and Herve "hands" Filion was a deteriorating 4th....now a rotting corpse. ngc3
Lachance went to the BigM after the Yonkers cheating scandal with the 714 trifecta paying under 200 or so with a 17-1 Leo Bauer on top.
No worries just an opinion! ;D
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Is Leo still alive or did the crack finally get him?
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Is Leo still alive or did the crack finally get him?
If alive he's still living off that trifecta money - when the pools were huge! ngc3
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Not one mother fucker wrote:
Campbell / O'Donnell, you Crackheads! 73cv.2
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Memory like an elephant from 35 years ago!:
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/59148ab5add7b04934516777
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I know about the triple The guy who trained the 1 that Lachance sat in with was in our barn at YR
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Bauer rolled on henri which shocked everyone. When Henry heard he rolled, he supposedly told Bauer to grow eyes in the back of his head Bauer was not charged but was essentially finioshed know racing fraternity would take him in The horse he won with was falcons Mann
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I know about the triple The guy who trained the 1 that Lachance sat in with was in our barn at YR
I was in Saratoga reading the same day paper about the story - lots of banded drivers including piece of shit Henri F., and his horse was Pan Am SAM!
Lachance came back and won a big race at Yonkers after the ban lifted and I got in his face on the live feed video and tore his ass up, he thought I was going to kill him, froze and turned white as a ghost!
Hell no this race fixing scumbag is back!
Dude ran around with a gym bag full of cash and cocaine, he was da man, just not my bro man! ;D
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I should not have started this thread because this is what it devolves into Sorry to everyone on here
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I should not have started this thread because this is what it devolves into Sorry to everyone on here
Why Michel "Mike" Lachance was his own duo ALL IN ONE - the very talented soft spoken driver / coked up crooked cash criminal all in the same sulky! ngc3
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I'd be very surprised is luc and case were in collusion on anything.
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I'd be very surprised is luc and case were in collusion on anything.
Case was Luc's mentor, he cloned his style...Lachance was Luc's in as the unc.
But opinions vary, Case ruled the roost, called the shots with selected trainers & OC & oblivious regulatory-management and was fully hi the whole ride!
Who better to set up a number when you have 1 2 locked in whenever you want!
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I'd be very surprised is luc and case were in collusion on anything.
TYVM I know u know whats happening as do i Cant and wont argue with the Senator NO WAY CASE AND LUC WORKED TOGETHER
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TYVM I know u know whats happening as do i Cant and wont argue with the Senator NO WAY CASE AND LUC WORKED TOGETHER
It was an organic thing one the very best and distanced - second the absolute exacta end...ORGANIC! ;D
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YR/RR There were three major groups in the late sixties and seventies. If you were there you knew which ones worked together and a few were by themselves. Dauplaise Cobb Meyers worked by themselves and were very successful.
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YR/RR There were three major groups in the late sixties and seventies. If you were there you knew which ones worked together and a few were by themselves. Dauplaise Cobb Meyers worked by themselves and were very successful.
I am 60 so too young for the 60s. I of course know the people you are talking about As a kid I followed Norman Dauplaise I remember Larry Battaglia training for him and Rene Poulin coming out under him He had that Saddle Rock Stable i used to wait for him to win at a price with Sirota anderson - just shy of a true open horse. Saw a bit of eddie Cobb and almost none of alan and Ellis Meyer but have been told they were excellent ty for the input
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I actually got to train Mickey Rodney towards the end of his career when the owner chose to bring him to the farm setting. We still had Norman drive him though. He was still an open trotter.
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Larry Battaglia started out in Freehold with a couple of horses that I think his father owned. He was a great guy good trainer and a lot of fun. he liked to drink beer probably fit right in with Norman. I knew them all and all the rest of them but don't want to tell true stories about them on here. When Lachance first came to NY I think Yonkers the driving colony ran him all over the track. He had to leave. He went to Brandywine, Liberty Bell and when he came back to NY, he had a powerhouse stable and then the drivers had to work with him.
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Larry Battaglia started out in Freehold with a couple of horses that I think his father owned. He was a great guy good trainer and a lot of fun. he liked to drink beer probably fit right in with Norman. I knew them all and all the rest of them but don't want to tell true stories about them on here. When Lachance first came to NY I think Yonkers the driving colony ran him all over the track. He had to leave. He went to Brandywine, Liberty Bell and when he came back to NY, he had a powerhouse stable and then the drivers had to work with him.
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Larry Battaglia started out in Freehold with a couple of horses that I think his father owned. He was a great guy good trainer and a lot of fun. he liked to drink beer probably fit right in with Norman. I knew them all and all the rest of them but don't want to tell true stories about them on here. When Lachance first came to NY I think Yonkers the driving colony ran him all over the track. He had to leave. He went to Brandywine, Liberty Bell and when he came back to NY, he had a powerhouse stable and then the drivers had to work with him.
Nice memories. to get to sit behind the great Mickey Rodney COOL! Around 1990 after RR closed Larry was on his own and had a top flighjt groom called Bobby Lisandro a quiet older very dedicated good person Anyway Larry had the great open trotter Fortune Mark who really flourished under Bobby's care Fortune Mark had epic duels with Harold Story's world class mare Scenic Regal They would trade the 7 and 8 hole at Steve Starr's whim and run 1 = 2 week after week Top of the stretch they would be neck and neck and legend has it that herve would look at Harold and say you wanna win or should I> Usually a neck or less separated them at the wire Exacta always paid $20 so even if you boxed you still got at least 5 - 1 and if u guessed right you got 10-1 awesome times
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I heard Larry was into Scuba diving or something like that too
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I forgot Buddy Gilmour and his waterboy, Real Cormier
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At Monti
Greg and Mike Merton work together and Bruce Aldrich and Jimmy DeVaux are a team.
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At Monti
Greg and Mike Merton work together and Bruce Aldrich and Jimmy DeVaux are a team.
At least Monticello has more money to get compared to other tracks!
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Benny and Buddy (and the Island Inn).
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At Monti
Greg and Mike Merton work together and Bruce Aldrich and Jimmy DeVaux are a team.
Of course, blood is thicker than water
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Back in the old days at Foxboro and Rockingham Bruce Ranger and John Marshall Mark lancaster called the shots often and worked with just about everyone John Hogan and Sreve O'toole
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Art Bier , Rick Plano, Mel Terrcoto , Charlie Brown & Pasty Rapone at Northfield Park in the late 79’s and early 80’s.
That was so bad they all got asked to leave.
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You had me at artie Bier and Rick Plano LOLOLOL Artie Bier a top notch horseman, btw
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There was one driver that actually worked with all of them and really ran YR/RR
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From my time there starting very late 70s until he was kicked out by YR, sued and lost, Rejean Daigneault ran the show and had multiple puppet barns as well as his own. Jocelyn Tremblay stable and Gerry Sarama stable are just two examples.
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There was one driver that actually worked with all of them and really ran YR/RR
Really?
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Two more Rejean puppet barns - Jim McCardle and John Lare and of coutrse, Rejean had a powerful stable of his own at that point I remember the drivers in the "circle" were looking to take $30,000 per night out of the windows.
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Jimmy and cat
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There was someone before him.
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There was someone before him.
I have heard there was a guy named Bobby Tetreault who was heavily involved in race fixing and had guys like Jacque dupuis in his pocket Not sure where you are going with this