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Title: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: shotgunner on May 31, 2023, 12:23:04 PM
Usta banned 3D bikes until investigation is completed.
the last bike I remember them banning after years of use was the cheetah.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: LLGirl on May 31, 2023, 02:10:45 PM
when 4 bikes break in the last month that is was they’re suppose to do before someone gets killed.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: shotgunner on May 31, 2023, 02:14:31 PM
when 4 bikes break in the last month that is was they’re suppose to do before someone gets killed.
Saw the shit show at scioto, didn’t know about the rest.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: LLGirl on May 31, 2023, 03:06:25 PM
scary
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: White Rabbit on May 31, 2023, 08:16:35 PM
USTA is not a regulatory agency, so how do they ban bikes?
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Meadow Ford on May 31, 2023, 10:03:22 PM
Just for fun I went to the Regulatory page of The USTA to see the list of tested and approved sulkys.
Anyone want to guess what I found.
Approved Sulky Companies. Over/ under 25
Approved and tested Sulky Models. Over/ under 100

I didn't see any model listed as 3D or anything close.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: White Rabbit on June 01, 2023, 07:19:29 AM
That’s a BS list. When the USTA was sued by Cheetah bike 25 yrs ago they admitted in court that they are not a regulatory agency. That’s the joke here. There testing is BS , they put a strap on the center of the arch by the seat apply pressure til it breaks the bike and if the bike doesn’t fail until it hits amount of pressure then it passes. No fatigue over time testing, or side to side constant motion test. That’s just to recommend to ways to simulate wear over time. These type test would give them ideal of a driver using a bike 3000 starts. To simplify, EXP the coat hanger test. Bend the coat hanger once doesn’t break, strong coat hanger. Bend it 10 times breaks.
But they don’t do any of this, cause it would cost  a substantial amount to make buy the machines that would preform such tests.
So who’s at fault, 3D or the “Regulatory Agency that test the bike and passed it”
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Meadow Ford on June 01, 2023, 07:41:54 AM
Bend the coat hanger once doesn’t break, strong coat hanger. Bend it 10 times breaks.

Opps  I guess I got to throw out all my coat hangers and pound nails in the wall.
OH Wait, If I put to much weight on the nail it will bend. So what do I do now?
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Mailbox Money on June 01, 2023, 11:45:29 AM
It's called "metal fatigue ".Same thing that the TSA looks for during plane crash investigations.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on June 01, 2023, 12:30:46 PM
White rabbit is 100% spot on. There are a lot of factors that go into bike wear. The useless ta needs to either do better testing or stay out of it.

I remember how cool I thought it was when I got my Cheetah back in the 90's. Going from a hickory shaft to the all metal was an adjustment. The.whip hits on the shaft sure sounded different
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: jupiter on June 01, 2023, 04:49:41 PM
Only 2 bikes that picked one up, the Cheetah and Single Shaft. Scared the shit out of them
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: London on June 01, 2023, 06:33:43 PM
Didnt they ban the Harmon bike for breaking in the middle of the frame.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: White Rabbit on June 01, 2023, 09:14:55 PM
The Harmer bike did break, but they made a bs repair and they were allowed too keep using it, I say that in jest because once again the USTA is not a regulatory agency but a money grab agency. The Harmer bike fell out of favor when the UFO came out.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: seen2much on June 02, 2023, 09:32:49 PM
Saw the shit show at scioto, didn’t know about the rest.
I saw the replay & that was ugly. Real lucky to have no serious human or equine injuries.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Dels Finest on June 12, 2023, 11:40:53 PM
If this bike is banned, how come drivers are still using them?
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 13, 2023, 08:55:33 AM
When these bike manufacturers find themselves on the banned list, who compensates the drivers for their purchases? the Manufacturer, or the USTA who imposed the banned which is surmountable to a financial penalty on the drivers having to buy and replace bikes.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Fuguzzi on June 13, 2023, 09:34:51 AM
The news hasn't trickled down
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: shotgunner on June 13, 2023, 10:08:20 AM
If this bike is banned, how come drivers are still using them?
I haven’t seen anyone use them. Older model spiders yeah.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: White Rabbit on June 13, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
USTA should be held financially responsible for financial reimbursement to the bike owners. USTA charges the bike manufacturers a test and inspection fee, use to be $1500.00. So if they did the proper testing, metal fatigue test as well, which they don’t then the 3 D would have failed and no bikes would have been sold. But as usually no agencies or commissions are held accountable. Just horse people.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 13, 2023, 06:01:05 PM
USTA should be held financially responsible for financial reimbursement to the bike owners. USTA charges the bike manufacturers a test and inspection fee, use to be $1500.00. So if they did the proper testing, metal fatigue test as well, which they don’t then the 3 D would have failed and no bikes would have been sold. But as usually no agencies or commissions are held accountable. Just horse people.

Whats the point of the USTA again?  ngc3
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Parked on June 13, 2023, 06:10:42 PM
What bike does Bouncy Bonny use ??  Must be the toughest bike made.
Title: Re: 3D bikes removed from bike list
Post by: Generation XYZ on June 14, 2023, 08:25:20 AM
What bike does Bouncy Bonny use ??  Must be the toughest bike made.

UFO or Spider Bike.
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