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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on May 14, 2023, 04:03:13 PM
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Oak grove has to demand guy looks presentable
Unless the track don’t give a crap
He’s representing your race track
Looks like a bum
Not shaven. Dressed like he just got done with lawn work
Hair in disarray
We have to do better
Perfect example of why harness will never be close to tbreds
Not Good look oak grove. Wake the fuck up
Jmvfho
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Oak grove has to demand guy looks presentable
Unless the track don’t give a crap
He’s representing your race track
Looks like a bum
Not shaven. Dressed like he just got done with lawn work
Hair in disarray
We have to do better
Perfect example of why harness will never be close to tbreds
Ray Cotolo, he's 24, Grunge, a Paisan too...thanks for the I made you look Roc, I owe ya 73cv.2, I'll just keep all live racing muted, and if I look up in time for a live race, so be it! tmbz1
https://raycotolo.com/about/
Roc, you manscape, pretty boy, muuaaah? ngc3
Not Good look oak grove. Wake the fuck up
The Grove looks like a fucking hick migrant labor camp, dodo drivers lined up driving in the 3 path....tell midget Putin or Kim to greelight it for a strike, the 8 billion ayes have it! ;D
Jmvfho
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When you watch a thoroughbred racing telecast, all the guys are in suits, clean-shaven nice haircut you look at some of these harness telecast these people look like circus clowns. They look like circus Carneys.
Wdf
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When you watch a thoroughbred racing telecast, all the guys are in suits, clean-shaven nice haircut you look at some of these harness telecast these people look like circus clowns. They look like circus Carneys.
Wdf
Roc, it's a great observation and suggestion, and just like I don't have to respond to every post tmbz1 and I won't, you shouldn't have to bitch and curiously wonder and seek advisement about every damn thing either. Look away look away look away, pal! tmbz1
Do you race t-breds in their pristine world or just support the typically unkempt, dirty, filthy, unprofessional, grungy harness racing world? Me, I do both as an analyst / gambler! ;D
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When you watch a thoroughbred racing telecast, all the guys are in suits, clean-shaven nice haircut you look at some of these harness telecast these people look like circus clowns. They look like circus Carneys.
Wdf
Circus Carneys? Oh you mean Shades ... agreed
The thoroughbred people get paid and can afford a suit. Harness talent gets minimum wage. Just ask Darren, Justin, and Hollywood. They loved Jeffie's generosity ngc3
As for Cotolo he's a harness legacy .. his father writes for Harness Racing Update and the kid's been publishing picks for a few years. His father portrays himself as a master handicapper too.
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Circus Carneys? Oh you mean Shades ... agreed
The thoroughbred people get paid and can afford a suit. Harness talent gets minimum wage. Just ask Darren, Justin, and Hollywood. They loved Jeffie's generosity ngc3
As for Cotolo he's a harness legacy .. his father writes for Harness Racing Update and the kid's been publishing picks for a few years. His father portrays himself as a master handicapper too.
I learn quite a bit on Plop. Much of what you said is insightful, thank you. Makes sense too of the proportionality of t-bred racing$$$$$ to harness racing$$ and what is affordable, cost of living, apparel, very smart.
When you're not detectiving, and playing IT Equalizer lurking icognito at PLOP, tell us about Thorny, you ask questions to many, some very personal of some here, you know much about people outside suggesting you're read, who and what is Thorny all about? ;D
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Why do you care master ruler?
Maybe someone who's been following this "sport" for over 50 years may have some knowledge built up? Or perhaps that someone is just bored and unlike some others only responds to a topic he has some knowledge about.
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Oak grove has to demand guy looks presentable
Unless the track don’t give a crap
He’s representing your race track
Looks like a bum
Not shaven. Dressed like he just got done with lawn work
Hair in disarray
We have to do better
Perfect example of why harness will never be close to tbreds
Not Good look oak grove. Wake the fuck up
Jmvfho
LOOKS LIKE THE SHITBUMS WHO STORMED CAPITAL ON JAN 6.
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Why do you care master ruler?
Maybe someone who's been following this "sport" for over 50 years may have some knowledge built up? Or perhaps that someone is just bored and unlike some others only responds to a topic he has some knowledge about.
ngc3 chump cop out ngc3 !
When you asked Dink, how much he bet on his future wager after the derby, I thought that was bold of you. Very specific needing to know his financials + / - in an open forum!
When it comes to sharing anything about yourself I guess we get this, maybe lol?
Master ruler, you need one, maybe if you're nice, you beg, but not no, rule ruin your own life! ;D
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Dude you keep saying things in an open forum representing things I say that I NEVER said.
I did not ask Dink how much he bet. He publicly stated he bet 20 bucks so why would I ask ?
He further stated he had a micro investment on Mage with Commonwealth and I like probably many others here wondered how much that was worth in terms of roi. He graciously said he made more on the future bet than on his ownership. Question answered. Thanks Dink. You think that a return of a micro investment has anything to do with his overall financials?
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Dude you keep saying things in an open forum representing things I say that I NEVER said.
I did not ask Dink how much he bet. He publicly stated he bet 20 bucks so why would I ask ?
He further stated he had a micro investment on Mage with Commonwealth and I like probably many others here wondered how much that was worth in terms of roi. He graciously said he made more on the future bet than on his ownership. Question answered. Thanks Dink. You think that a return of a micro investment has anything to do with his overall financials?
You asked:
"Congrats Dink ... Out of curiosity did you make more on the 20 dollar future bet than on the fractional ownership?
How much would you have had to invest in the ownership to get that 1600 you won?"
https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=74025.msg1106282#msg1106282 (Post #1)
I'm here a lot, you're post deleter too, please don't say you don't, editing is one thing, regretful or whatever post deleting is another after one reads, another might think to quote and respond, some sneaky deaky shiz? I'll bet ya $ if you say no, should we ask ADMIN? ;D
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Circus Carneys? Oh you mean Shades ... agreed
The thoroughbred people get paid and can afford a suit. Harness talent gets minimum wage. Just ask Darren, Justin, and Hollywood. They loved Jeffie's generosity ngc3
As for Cotolo he's a harness legacy .. his father writes for Harness Racing Update and the kid's been publishing picks for a few years. His father portrays himself as a master handicapper too.
I don’t care if he’s dad is Obama
Get a haircut look presentable
You represent a company on television
Not look like a mission BUM
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hair is way over rated
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I don’t care if he’s dad is Obama
Get a haircut look presentable
You represent a company on television
Not look like a mission BUM
Gave you his contact, tell him! I've done it, then reported back, they're called palle, juevos....or just a never ending yenta fest of moaning, and closed circuit insulting and suggesting! ngc3
or as a horse owner you can't be the same dude here as there? tmbz1
RTN TV and CDI, TV & Company.....heave n to Betsy to confuse the like! ;D
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Tbreds are light years away from harness telecasts
Watch a telecast from Gulf Stream or Belmont see how well dressed and presentable they look
I guess some tracks demand professional looks at all times. Wordrobes and appearance and some track cater to the FARMER TED LOOK
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if we ever want to be taken seriously than look professional and not like hillbillies or worse inbreds
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Tbreds are light years away from harness telecasts
Watch a telecast from Gulf Stream or Belmont see how well dressed and presentable they look
I guess some tracks demand professional looks at all times. Wordrobes and appearance and some track cater to the FARMER TED LOOK
Not one person disagreed with you or Thorny or the comparable....I got fucking yelled at and threatened for shit of hard-lining opinion point of views in redundancy (different people though) across the forum board - no spamming, just over involved, and not because ADMIN thought so, but complaints from jealous, barely a stitch of talent nazi twats (who seek to insurrect their will on PLOP for dominance)...and you're just repeating the same shit over and over again at this point! SPAM!!
No balls, Roc, I'll reach out to the dude right now by email and tell him WHY NOT look like a presentable presenter and not a DISHEVELED FUCKING BABY WHARF RAT WITH A LOADED DIAPER and respond back here with the back and forth! I'll put my name on it and no mention of PLOP TOO!
Copy that, 10-4! ;D
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Not one person disagreed with you or Thorny or the comparable....I got fucking yelled at and threatened for shit of hard-lining opinion point of views in redundancy (different people though) across the forum board - no spamming, just over involved, and not because ADMIN thought so, but complaints from jealous, barely a stitch of talent nazi twats (who seek to insurrect their will on PLOP for dominance)...and you're just repeating the same shit over and over again at this point! SPAM!!
Does the Senator have power or are you a Jr. Senator
No balls, Roc, I'll reach out to the dude right now by email and tell him WHY NOT look like a presentable presenter and not a DISHEVELED FUCKING BABY WHARF RAT WITH A LOADED DIAPER and respond back here with the back and forth! I'll put my name on it and no mention of PLOP TOO!
Copy that, 10-4! ;D
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Subject: Televised Appearance?
Paul
7:19 PM (0 minutes ago)
to raycotolo
Dear Ray,
I can't believe you're 24 bro, I blinked and I'm double that, best of luck to a long career in whatever you attempt, seriously I mean it - Nothing but success!
Some dudes and I were watching racing at Oak Grove, and were commenting on your appearance, being televised, working for a subsidiary of CDI, again mind you we're all a generation or 2 older, so no offense (even though in private lol we're very offensive) intended but, clean, pressed professional apparel and look for your TARGETED AUDIENCE, US....in line with executive appearance tradition of race broadcasting. What's up bro with this look, grunge, dark and artistic is fine somewhere but.....your overall appearance bro, consider a makeover for the harness racing live video feed, AND STILL and NEVER CHANGE BEING YOU!
If you respond, I'll share with the fellas! Thank you!!
Warmest regards,
Paul
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Does the Senator have power or are you a Jr. Senator
Look up, last post, I emailed the dude, even if I'm a junior janitor I got balls, (not a posting sissy) and take insulting and advisement outside this forum for my BROTHERS to the SOURCE! ;D
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You did my work Thk u
Harness commentators have a more professional look when representing a track and catch up to the tbred telecast
It’s nothin to do with balls .,
I gave my opinion I hope he takes it
Next thread coming soon
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You did my work Thk u
Harness commentators have a more professional look when representing a track and catch up to the tbred telecast
It’s nothin to do with balls .,
I gave my opinion I hope he takes it
Next thread coming soon
You're very welcome, maybe I'll be posting in that thread coming soon, if my head hasn't been hacked off 73cv.2....balls directed at everyone, including me, until I formed my, our thoughts and executed!
I meant what I said once upon a time.....(Horseplop Bros) OUR OPINION MATTERS, we just so happen to be unified this time, that's a rarity!
You (anyone) want to kill ya bro (me) have at it.....otherwise we mutually exist or won't... ;D
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https://youtu.be/UTFdPi9By4w
From years ago
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Subject: Televised Appearance?
Paul
7:19 PM (0 minutes ago)
to raycotolo
Dear Ray,
I can't believe you're 24 bro, I blinked and I'm double that, best of luck to a long career in whatever you attempt, seriously I mean it - Nothing but success!
Some dudes and I were watching racing at Oak Grove, and were commenting on your appearance, being televised, working for a subsidiary of CDI, again mind you we're all a generation or 2 older, so no offense (even though in private lol we're very offensive) intended but, clean, pressed professional apparel and look for your TARGETED AUDIENCE, US....in line with executive appearance tradition of race broadcasting. What's up bro with this look, grunge, dark and artistic is fine somewhere but.....your overall appearance bro, consider a makeover for the harness racing live video feed, AND STILL and NEVER CHANGE BEING YOU!
If you respond, I'll share with the fellas! Thank you!!
Warmest regards,
Paul
Ray Cotolo response:
May 14, 2023, 8:49 PM
Hi Paul,
Appreciate the wish of luck, I know I'll need it in this world lol.
And honestly, re: looks -- I was more concerned today that my handicapping was terrible haha. my job more than anything is to help people figure out the races and how to figure out the races, so me not having a good opinion today and not helping people make money is a bigger issue to me. i dress how i dress cause ultimately im just a guy. im not a track representative, a CDI guy or anything like that. I'm just a guy who makes movies and writes stories who also watches races and tries to use that knowledge to help people make money. People can say I represent CDI but ultimately I am who I am and no corporation will change that.
So if anything, I just hope to have opinions worth listening to. This is a game of opinions, after all! I don't think professional apparel will help me handicap a race any better, or make my opinions worth any more time. I know more snakes in suits than in blue jeans, anyway.
I could use a shower though now that you mention it, has been about two days.
Thanks for the message and hope you made money today -- I know I didn't, haha.
Ray
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The kid repping Oak Grove is ok. Its juvenile and I believe hes doing the schtick from his home studio in Pennsylvania
(the Oakgrove backdrop and computer inset..thats his.)
Ray's ok.
They just buried Miami Valley's 'The Wizard' ( you know, the sweet pix guy who wore a traffic pylon or a dunce cap on his head in the pre-race show..actually had an invitational in his name a couple weeks ago.) he was harmless and had eyeballs darting his way on banks of teletheater tvs.
Elsewhere, tits sweet and/our full and on display: Santa Anita, Gulfstream, Tampa..sweet ladies, big money joints. The gorgeous Indiana Downs t'bred analyst. or the european full figure of Mohawks handicapper...if you like that, Miss Vag has alot to offer.
Our old friend Shades, 'Send it in' over the top from Prewitt..or the duck that drops down over the Delaware Park vet capper..or our old Windsor buddy Marty Adler who used cardboard numbers to pre-race Hazel Park in the day.
CLASSY IS OPTIONAL...EYE BALLS BEING JARRED..I understand it.
Hey..i love plain jane too..but dont care if one tv has edge over another. Its dog eat $$ dog.
Im getting ready for Running Aces debut..with the announcer and his ballcap.
go Ray go.
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Ray Cotolo response:
May 14, 2023, 8:49 PM
Hi Paul,
Appreciate the wish of luck, I know I'll need it in this world lol.
And honestly, re: looks -- I was more concerned today that my handicapping was terrible haha. my job more than anything is to help people figure out the races and how to figure out the races, so me not having a good opinion today and not helping people make money is a bigger issue to me. i dress how i dress cause ultimately im just a guy. im not a track representative, a CDI guy or anything like that. I'm just a guy who makes movies and writes stories who also watches races and tries to use that knowledge to help people make money. People can say I represent CDI but ultimately I am who I am and no corporation will change that.
So if anything, I just hope to have opinions worth listening to. This is a game of opinions, after all! I don't think professional apparel will help me handicap a race any better, or make my opinions worth any more time. I know more snakes in suits than in blue jeans, anyway.
I could use a shower though now that you mention it, has been about two days.
Thanks for the message and hope you made money today -- I know I didn't, haha.
Ray
My final response:
9:39 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Ray
Hay, Ray, Do it Your Way!
We live, we learn, if you live your life and set the standard exponentially more than you'll need to follow others advisement, it's a kick ass daring ride!
I'm gonna check out your website tomorrow, no worries, I'm not the fanboy type to be plugging away in this email chain, lol, just seeking excellent creativity and entertainment - great escapes in between winning races which makes a great end to end day (I didn't play today btw)! Life imitates Art, Art inspires Life, which is correct in my book!
If you haven't, maybe check out this racing flick!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRMXwmD84Y
Good luck Bro with picking those WINners, and ALL YOUR Creativity pursuits, and Thank You for responding,
Life is an Experience & "that's all folks"!
Paul
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At this point you either want to look professional or not
Again. Watch a couple of tbred telecast see if you can tell any difference in appearance and professionalism
Nobody is disagreeing with his handicapping
Looking like a representative of a company one wood want to look his or her best when on a telecast
That’s just my opinion
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Oak grove should have a dress policy
Lots of companies do
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At this point you either want to look professional or not
Again. Watch a couple of tbred telecast see if you can tell any difference in appearance and professionalism
Nobody is disagreeing with his handicapping
Looking like a representative of a company one wood want to look his or her best when on a telecast
That’s just my opinion
Hey Roc, we're getting old, one day these dudes and gals, this generation we might be finding our life in their hands as caretakers or politicians!
"I could use a shower though now that you mention it, has been about two days." - Ray C.
Not only is "our pal" not changing his look or his wardrobe but he's told us He & his clothes likely stink too! I'm laughing so hard I'm crying about this sad realty! ;D
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My final response:
9:39 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Ray
Hay, Ray, Do it Your Way!
We live, we learn, if you live your life and set the standard exponentially more than you'll need to follow others advisement, it's a kick ass daring ride!
I'm gonna check out your website tomorrow, no worries, I'm not the fanboy type to be plugging away in this email chain, lol, just seeking excellent creativity and entertainment - great escapes in between winning races which makes a great end to end day (I didn't play today btw)! Life imitates Art, Art inspires Life, which is correct in my book!
If you haven't, maybe check out this racing flick!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRMXwmD84Y
Good luck Bro with picking those WINners, and ALL YOUR Creativity pursuits, and Thank You for responding,
Life is an Experience & "that's all folks"!
Paul
Ray's Final Response:
9:53 PM (21 minutes ago)
to me
Have never heard of this one, but it's got Mickey Rourke so I'm in. Thanks for the rec!
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When you watch a thoroughbred racing telecast, all the guys are in suits, clean-shaven nice haircut you look at some of these harness telecast these people look like circus clowns. They look like circus Carneys.
Wdf
I miss the guy I referred to as the Missing Link from the Showplace of racing. He was a cross between, the wrestler the Missing Link and dressed like Tommy Boy where the tie would end about 4 inches above the belly button.
We are harness racing where on any given night and on Friday's at the biggest track of them all we allow Amateur betting races. What does that say to someone new who pops in ? I would say its okay, but I don't amateurs in thoroughbred races. Nor do I see it in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, MLS, MMA..... Hell on ESPN two sundays ago they were airing the rock skipping championships. Doubt they pulled amateurs out of the crowd.
To most people if they have ever heard of harness racing --- they think were a joke --- well hell --- we present ourselves as a joke. The only headlines we garnered in a national publication last year -- was that dozens were sent to jail.
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WEARING A SUIT JACKET TODAY NDE A TSHIRT
HAIR AT LEAST COMBED
LOOKS LIKE ON O EOF THE BEE GEES TODAY tmbz1 tmbz1 ;D ;D
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WEARING A SUIT JACKET TODAY NDE A TSHIRT
HAIR AT LEAST COMBED
LOOKS LIKE ON O EOF THE BEE GEES TODAY tmbz1 tmbz1 ;D ;D
I haven't seen him yet, but sounds like an improvement off Yours, Thorny's, EV1s suggestions and my requesting he watch The Pope of Greenwich Village (Mickey Roarke, 1984).
A work in progress, well Done to All Us Dr. Frankensteins, our monster race broadcasting human is almost complete! ;D
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I haven't seen him yet, but sounds like an improvement off Yours, Thorny's, EV1s suggestions and my requesting he watch The Pope of Greenwich Village (Mickey Roarke, 1984).
A work in progress, well Done to All Us Dr. Frankensteins, our monster race broadcasting human is almost complete! ;D
I just caught a glimpse Dr. Frankensteins, I think we have neither yet, just a hybrid - Monster / Broadcaster....what have we done?!!! ;D
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WEARING A SUIT JACKET TODAY NDE A TSHIRT
Look familiar?
https://soulrideblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/charlie-in-green-jacket.jpg?w=1200&h=
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They all read plops 73cv.2 73cv.2 tmbz1on
My job is done on this thread
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Circus Carneys? Oh you mean Shades ... agreed
The thoroughbred people get paid and can afford a suit. Harness talent gets minimum wage.
Pretty sure SHADES came from the thoroughbred side
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Ray's Final Response:
9:53 PM (21 minutes ago)
to me
Have never heard of this one, but it's got Mickey Rourke so I'm in. Thanks for the rec!
Sent today (5/16/23)
7:35 AM (13 minutes ago)
to Ray
Suit jacket & t-shirt, hair combed back very nice look 5/15/23, your fans were over the moon.....but as long as you felt good in it!
Reminds me of someone, hmmmm https://soulrideblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/charlie-in-green-jacket.jpg?w=1200&h=
If you haven't seen these racing flicks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQetzM5zJus (great characters, funny and inspiring as hell) "Let it Ride", 1989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFJY_2DPo8 (racing history, beauty) "Phar Lap", 1983
Have a great day, BOSS!
Paul
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Sent today (5/16/23)
7:35 AM (13 minutes ago)
to Ray
Suit jacket & t-shirt, hair combed back very nice look 5/15/23, your fans were over the moon.....but as long as you felt good in it!
Reminds me of someone, hmmmm https://soulrideblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/charlie-in-green-jacket.jpg?w=1200&h=
If you haven't seen these racing flicks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQetzM5zJus (great characters, funny and inspiring as hell) "Let it Ride", 1989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFJY_2DPo8 (racing history, beauty) "Phar Lap", 1983
Have a great day, BOSS!
Paul
Response from Ray (5/16/23)
2:07 PM (3 hours ago)
to me
i havent combed my hair in probably 10 years lol. appreciate the nice words. have never been a let it ride fan but have been scouring for phar lap have never been able to get my hands on that movie
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My response to Ray (5/16/23):
5:48 PM (1 minute ago)
to Ray
Someone posted the full flick on Youtube, here ya go, hope you enjoy (popcorn, check, tissues, check, lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44GelI9nLds
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Looks great today, best ever to date! well done Roc, Thorny, and the rest of the Dr. Frankenstein's! Monster complete! ;D
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I’m sending him some dough for a proper haircut
Looks like one of those guys from Led Zeppelin ;D ;D
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I’m sending him some dough for a proper haircut
Looks like one of those guys from Led Zeppelin ;D ;D
It's insulting and unkind, I wouldn't recommend as being necessary for any particular personal preference, but if you say you're going to do it then DO IT, and report back, talk the talk walk the walk bro! ;D
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he does a good job , nice write up for the races as well
congrats to oakgrove for putting some effort behind their product, it pays off in handle
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he does a good job , nice write up for the races as well
congrats to oakgrove for putting some effort behind their product, it pays off in handle
tmbz1 Agree! tmbz1
Ray looked great today too, light colored dress shirt, waiving his arms if he was picking winners too.....who could ask for anything more!! ;D