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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on April 16, 2023, 05:13:27 PM
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I THINK THE DAYS ARE ALMOST OVER FOR STABLING AT TRACKS,,\
MORE AND MORE TRACKS BECOMING SHIP IN ONLY tmbz1
I THINK FARM HAS TO BETTER FOR TURN OUTS
BIGGER STALLS .
LITTLE BIT CALMER SCENARIO
ITS ALL ABOUT WELFARE FOR HORSES tmbz1
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I THINK THE DAYS ARE ALMOST OVER FOR STABLING AT TRACKS,,\
MORE AND MORE TRACKS BECOMING SHIP IN ONLY tmbz1
I THINK FARM HAS TO BETTER FOR TURN OUTS
BIGGER STALLS .
LITTLE BIT CALMER SCENARIO
ITS ALL ABOUT WELFARE FOR HORSES tmbz1
Beautiful topic, and agree with you of a sprawling farm tmbz1. If there was a Horse Whisperer emoji (I searched lol) you'd be prized with. But there ain't. ;D
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Keep the track stables open...cost of trucks, trailers, gas, tolls, labor will kill you...rent a stall or two at a turnout center for paddock time, etc. costs will drive owners away...K.I.S.S.
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I vote farm for many of the listed above reasons.....
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Winter the track ! Shipping in a cold climate can lead to missed days on the track along with accidents. Summers on a farm away from hot barns with little ventilation!
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Winter the track ! Shipping in a cold climate can lead to missed days on the track along with accidents. Summers on a farm away from hot barns with little ventilation!
I agree with this statement. Excellent point. Only thing I’ve said all along is it’s com0letely unfair to single out Tyler George, or gareth Dowse or even Lou Pena when they have done nothing wrong but win and dominate their competition. Think whatever you want but when Hoosier does what they are doing to Tyler George, and Erv Miller blatantly gets a 15 day suspension for a medication violation and he doesn’t have to stable at track? You have to be kidding me, WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS IN THAT HOOSIER MANAGEMENT?
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Ant.. your true colors are showing..
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Ant.. your true colors are showing..
He hates erv
He can visit us at the traing center in Indianapolis Fot lunch
The complaining getting old
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All running horse tracks have a barn area have every thing for the grooms if they can do it why not harness.
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farms are simply an excuse for trainers to gas the poor horses has nothing to do with whats best for horses. no security just rampant drug abuse
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He hates erv
He can visit us at the traing center in Indianapolis Fot lunch
The complaining getting old
The complaining is getting old TO YOU because it involves YOUR trainer! Like you said before, Tyler George is a good Christian and family man. Where is the fairness Luc? You know it’s not right for them to single out Tyler and turn s blind eye to Erv. Another thing I just heard yesterday in the paddock was don’t bet too much on Erv horses when Attlee driving. Erv wants Attlee to sit on rail and if win so be it. But the are on GO when trace is driving. So bet cautiously when Attlee is driving. Heads up to the players out there.
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Off track is definitely nicer, but I'd imagine on track is much more convenient and saves a lot of money. Depends on how your horses ship I guess.
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Ask any horse and they’ll tell you they prefer the farm. Too much stall time and they go sour.
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Ask any horse or groom or anyone working with horses and they will tell you FARM. Ask any owner if they are willing to pay the $500 a month just for a stall and buy a 100K rig to ship horses in and pay $1000s to get it legal and maintained and pay for help to travel to the farms and pay for vets to come out to do work and pay a blacksmith to set up to shoe and other added costs of being at a farm and every owner will moan and grown.Not to many trainers can front all the costs at a farm and hope and pray the owner pays his bill at the end of the month just to get what the trainer laid out to keep things running. One owner stiffs on the bill and you got a big problem. Costs are way less cheaper being stabled on the grounds and if your going to have the same win % a trainer has to be nuts to absorb all the added costs of being at a farm.
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Ask any horse or groom or anyone working with horses and they will tell you FARM. Ask any owner if they are willing to pay the $500 a month just for a stall and buy a 100K rig to ship horses in and pay $1000s to get it legal and maintained and pay for help to travel to the farms and pay for vets to come out to do work and pay a blacksmith to set up to shoe and other added costs of being at a farm and every owner will moan and grown.Not to many trainers can front all the costs at a farm and hope and pray the owner pays his bill at the end of the month just to get what the trainer laid out to keep things running. One owner stiffs on the bill and you got a big problem. Costs are way less cheaper being stabled on the grounds and if your going to have the same win % a trainer has to be nuts to absorb all the added costs of being at a farm.
Well said! I remember the first few weeks of the meet seeing Tyler’s crew shipping back and forth so I know for a fact all of his horses were not on the grounds. Look, any way you slice they fucked Tyler George and singled him out. There are a lot of jealous trainers crying and whining about him winning too much. And as far as same win % when he’s stabled at the track, you just go ahead and keep believing that. I love to gamble and I bet against a lot of Tyler’s horses once I knew for sure that particular horse was stabled at the track and sure enough they wouldn’t win. Not sYing they didn’t finish in the money, but his win % was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down once each horse had to stay in barn 8.
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I said my peace in this thread early on and not trying to get in the middle of a feud, and the disproportional penalties for some trainers over others, and obviously why people stick to where their bread is buttered over conspicuous wrong -
but what MikeAnt did in this thread was take existing subject matter that most would see as indirect, and make it apply into this thread DIRECTLY with logical and mastery ie why him (George) on the farm and the suspended dude (Erv) at the stable. Nice work bro, have been meaning to tell you since yesterday! 62za.clp
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In Ohio, many trainers are at county fairgrounds. Only PM track left with stabling is Northfield.
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Way easier to tube a horse when they are relaxed on the farm.
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Way easier to tube a horse when they are relaxed on the farm.
MAN YOU ARE SO RIGHT. THE SHIT THAT GOES ON AT THESE FARMS IS UNREAL. EITHER GASSING OR ELECTRICUTION AND CATTLE PROD UP THE ASS.