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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: CMJAnew on February 08, 2023, 05:54:40 AM
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https://youtu.be/xt-GsQVJHOg
After hours and hours of videos. This one says A LOT! More to the point.
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https://youtu.be/xt-GsQVJHOg
After hours and hours of videos. This one says A LOT! More to the point.
Wow--I must admit-I didnt pay much attention to Mike-because hes obviously someone(like many other small trainers in Harness)who the hierarchy used to issue-an unjust penalty-a scapegoat-and now hes seeking revenge -and has that agenda.
After listening-this is confirmed--BUT hes now on a much better track--using FACTS-which is the only way to get things done.
What Mark Ford has been doing is reprehensible--and he should be removed immediately from any position of authority in Harness Racing--pending a full investigation.
The Ron Burke incident--you would need more facts--tubing a horse is a procedure done everywhere by every vet/trainer-its if it was done in a nefarious manner-is the issue---was this done on horses racing the same day??
Mark Ford--"world Of Secrets"-if this is true--Mark Ford-should be banned for life and those responsible for the horses death also IF he was indeed being given PED's. Rene Allard,Surick-and Navarro---all in/going to jail-for similar treatment of horses and killing horses--add Mark Ford and co--to the list for doing the exact same thing???..
Better go buy some popcorn-shit about to hit the fan.
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I hope SCM is successful in his crusade. I feel his biggest problem is some of the people that he is turning to will stab him in the back and derail everything he is trying to accomplish.
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Soon Ford, will sue him for slander and that will be all of SCM.
Shame because I applaud him for what Hes doing. Maybe not the way I would have gone about it.
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Wow--I must admit-I didnt pay much attention to Mike-because hes obviously someone(like many other small trainers in Harness)who the hierarchy used to issue-an unjust penalty-a scapegoat-and now hes seeking revenge -and has that agenda.
After listening-this is confirmed--BUT hes now on a much better track--using FACTS-which is the only way to get things done.
What Mark Ford has been doing is reprehensible--and he should be removed immediately from any position of authority in Harness Racing--pending a full investigation.
The Ron Burke incident--you would need more facts--tubing a horse is a procedure done everywhere by every vet/trainer-its if it was done in a nefarious manner-is the issue---was this done on horses racing the same day??
Mark Ford--"world Of Secrets"-if this is true--Mark Ford-should be banned for life and those responsible for the horses death also IF he was indeed being given PED's. Rene Allard,Surick-and Navarro---all in/going to jail-for similar treatment of horses and killing horses--add Mark Ford and co--to the list for doing the exact same thing???..
Better go buy some popcorn-shit about to hit the fan.
World of secrets was Billy Rhoades horse, who was stabled at Mark Ford's. Not sure how he can claim that it was Mark Ford's horse. Kind of a non starter on that end.
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Once again showing he's on a crusade against Mark Ford and is willing to hurt anyone in his way and is trying to make himself seem like a saint by "rescuing" horses. What a bum.
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I guess my question with the world of secrets horse is this... What exactly does that have to do with Mark when the listed trainer was Bill Rhoades when this allegedly happened?
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I guess my question with the world of secrets horse is this... What exactly does that have to do with Mark when the listed trainer was Bill Rhoades when this allegedly happened?
Didnt you post that Bill Rhoades wife is a Vet?? If that's the case shouldn't the authorities be trying to investigate the PED's that were allegedly used on World of Secrets and Killed it??
Shit like that is what got those that were indicted to be put in jail.
The Sport and the horses don't deserve this kind of shenanigans.
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Didnt you post that Bill Rhoades wife is a Vet?? If that's the case shouldn't the authorities be trying to investigate the PED's that were allegedly used on World of Secrets and Killed it??
Shit like that is what got those that were indicted to be put in jail.
The Sport and the horses don't deserve this kind of shenanigans.
Yes she is a vet. But nobody as of right now knows what really happened and or what was injected. I'm not pointing fingers at Billy I was just curious how or what Mark had to do with this other than it was at his farm allegedly
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New, clarifying YouTube video up now
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New, clarifying YouTube video up now
HMMMM---the "clarification"-left more questions than when we started and included some mystifying assertions.
1) How do we know PED's were administered? Its not illegal to inject a horse 24 hours before a race with vitamins or electrolytes is it? I know 0 race day-but 24hrs?
2) "Blowing out a vein"---WTF is that? I assume blowing out a vein-is injecting a substance when you missed the vein and its deposited under the skin?Sticking a needle in a horses vein doesn't make it bleed to death does it? More likely it had some kind of adverse reaction and dropped dead right? Now we find out Mark Ford wasn't around when this went down--but rightly so--would be pissed off finding a dead horse lying in blood on his farm.
3) Its not illegal to bury a horse on a property as long as its done correctly--many horses are buried all over NY State-some with headstones--others nothing.It is I assume--a requirement to notify officials if a racehorse died.Maybe this was done or will be done ?
An investigation is certainly on the cards-but the heinous implications asserted here--require a lot more evidence and questions as to what exactly was injected and what was the cause of death. In USA 1000 people die each year from anaphylactic injections despite all the care taken by the best medical attention--not as many horses thankfully--but nearly every Vet I know-has had one happen.
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After the first three minutes I knew it was all bullshit. The guy just can’t ltavr a guy like mark ford along. Back off Petrelli and you lie lie lie.
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i gotta believe it ,why would he lie
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i gotta believe it ,why would he lie
Agreed---he believes something horrible happened to World Of Secrets.
However--its coming from someone with a huge chip on his shoulder--so we are not exactly getting an unbiased report.
He should not be reporting relentlessly about events based on hearsay--any Lawyer will tell you-that doesnt fly in Court.
Get irrefutable evidence-what exactly was given that killed the horse--and if Mark Ford did something wrong-what exactly was that? Was he directly involved in the actual killing of a horse? Burying one--is not a crime last time I looked.
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HMMMM---the "clarification"-left more questions than when we started and included some mystifying assertions.
1) How do we know PED's were administered? Its not illegal to inject a horse 24 hours before a race with vitamins or electrolytes is it? I know 0 race day-but 24hrs?
2) "Blowing out a vein"---WTF is that? I assume blowing out a vein-is injecting a substance when you missed the vein and its deposited under the skin?Sticking a needle in a horses vein doesn't make it bleed to death does it? More likely it had some kind of adverse reaction and dropped dead right? Now we find out Mark Ford wasn't around when this went down--but rightly so--would be pissed off finding a dead horse lying in blood on his farm.
3) Its not illegal to bury a horse on a property as long as its done correctly--many horses are buried all over NY State-some with headstones--others nothing.It is I assume--a requirement to notify officials if a racehorse died.Maybe this was done or will be done ?
An investigation is certainly on the cards-but the heinous implications asserted here--require a lot more evidence and questions as to what exactly was injected and what was the cause of death. In USA 1000 people die each year from anaphylactic injections despite all the care taken by the best medical attention--not as many horses thankfully--but nearly every Vet I know-has had one happen.
Back when it happened the word was anaphylactic shock. I haven't heard of anything like what was described (blowing out a vein) either in any case.
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Agreed---he believes something horrible happened to World Of Secrets.
However--its coming from someone with a huge chip on his shoulder--so we are not exactly getting an unbiased report.
He should not be reporting relentlessly about events based on hearsay--any Lawyer will tell you-that doesnt fly in Court.
Get irrefutable evidence-what exactly was given that killed the horse--and if Mark Ford did something wrong-what exactly was that? Was he directly involved in the actual killing of a horse? Burying one--is not a crime last time I looked.
I mean he also doesn't get anything right on stuff that is verifiable. Like the horse was racing at Yonkers, you can bury horses on your farm in New York etc
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Sad because Mike was told no when he asked Mark to stable on his farm. it's all about humiliation. Funny you only hear Mike's side of the story.
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Can petrelli not be charged with defamation of character or slander if what he us stating publicly is in fact false?
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Can petrelli not be charged with defamation of character or slander if what he us stating publicly is in fact false?
Yes, if its false then Ford can sue him. He doesn't need people to shill for him on horseplop.
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Can petrelli not be charged with defamation of character or slander if what he us stating publicly is in fact false?
But what if it is true?
Seems pretty descriptive to be made up.
I gotta believe this is going to be a big black eye for those involved. (As it should be)
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But what if it is true?
Seems pretty descriptive to be made up.
I gotta believe this is going to be a big black eye for those involved. (As it should be)
tmbz1
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Sad because Mike was told no when he asked Mark to stable on his farm. it's all about humiliation. Funny you only hear Mike's side of the story.
They are both scumbags with their own agendas!
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I bring up that no one takes SCM serious with his white trash mouth and now all of a sudden he's trying not to cuss as much? Way to finally listen to someone SCM. If you want to be taken seriously, act professional. I actually think he has many valid points, but he has act a little classier to be the face of something to this important. I truly believe the industry will die long before it's cleaned up.
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detailed story so probably not completely made up. How ever maybe its best left in the "world of secrets"
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Introduction To Constitution is this evenings edition ….
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Can petrelli not be charged with defamation of character or slander if what he us stating publicly is in fact false?
If they have a way to prove it with paperwork it’d be a slam dunk. Hard to prove otherwise. If the horse died of anaphylactic shock and no one did a necropsy then how do you prove that was the cause of death. I guess you take depositions from people that were there, but that might be a little tough. But if they called a state vet or had a security recording then it’s good night Petrelli.
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stop giving mark ford any benifit of doubt
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But what if it is true?
Seems pretty descriptive to be made up.
I gotta believe this is going to be a big black eye for those involved. (As it should be)
The problem is:
Rhoades was not in Mark Fords barn (where mark is stabled) so how is one of Mark Fords employees going to witness this?
He goes into some detail saying that Mark knows exactly who the girl is and described her.
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The problem is:
Rhoades was not in Mark Fords barn (where mark is stabled) so how is one of Mark Fords employees going to witness this?
He goes into some detail saying that Mark knows exactly who the girl is and described her.
SCM is a liar and he knows better than to come back on plop where he got slapped around at every corner. Don’t worry, Mark Ford is putting together a lawsuit and going to get SCM thrown off the new property that he is at
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i gotta believe it ,why would he lie
Because he's broke angry and bitter?
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THERE ARE MANY CASES WHERE EVEN IF A SLANDEROUS OR DEFAMATORY REMARK WAS MADE AGAINST ANOTHER IN A "MALICIOUS" INTENT----EVEN THOUGH THE STATEMENT WAS 100% TRUE---THE CASE MOVED FORWARD.
THE WORD "MALICIOUS INTENT" IS THE KEY HERE.
NOT SURE HOW THE STATEMENTS WERE USED OR BY WHOM---THIS SHOULD HELP CLARIFY .
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What IS the protocol, procedure, rule, form, for reporting the death of a standardbred that dies on private property?
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Look for YouTube post to disappear!
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Is SCM really saying that disposing of an already dead horse is worse than the asshole so stuck a needle in his neck? What is wrong with this idiot? Giving Rhoades and or his crew a pass on what they did? Both are very wrong, killing the animal is far worse!
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Some of jerk offs you tube videos deleted??? Why??
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Soon Ford, will sue him for slander and that will be all of SCM.
Shame because I applaud him for what Hes doing. Maybe not the way I would have gone about it.
ya he's gonna spend thousands to sue a broke guy. makes total sense ngc3
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Look for YouTube post to disappear!
I visit to watch now and then. Were any deleted?
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SCM won’t post anymore on horseplop cause he said he complained to pigland about being called SCM and he did nothing so he will not post here anymore. Shame on you pigland
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SCM begging for more money because he is in way over his head. Have a financial plan before getting into business dummy! What's the plan if the money stops?
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And SCM is again saying the cover up is worse than killing the horse. You can't be serious! If this is true, Ford is a true scumbag. But killing the horse is 100x worse!
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What Times Union article does he reference in the latest video?
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The best part of his videos is he acts like people are afraid of him.
If the guy had any assets they would be sueing him, otherwise they’re paying 10s of thousands of dollars to go into court and play he said she said with no chance of winning anything. Not because they can’t prove he is lying, but because even if they do, there is nothing to collect and a jury is going to just going to hear about how SCM is a saint who is spending all his money on saving horses.
I said it from the beginning, the horse rescue bit is a smokescreen to protect him from criticism.
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The best part of his videos is he acts like people are afraid of him.
If the guy had any assets they would be sueing him, otherwise they’re paying 10s of thousands of dollars to go into court and play he said she said with no chance of winning anything. Not because they can’t prove he is lying, but because even if they do, there is nothing to collect and a jury is going to just going to hear about how SCM is a saint who is spending all his money on saving horses.
I said it from the beginning, the horse rescue bit is a smokescreen to protect him from criticism.
I agree with you. He isn’t in it fir the horse. He got thrown out of Goshen and didn’t want to accept the help from his brother frank because of his pride. He has an ax to grind with Mark Ford so he came on plop and we all put his name on the map.
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SCM, why is David Glasser still driving in the GSY? If he illegally entered horses for Faraldo and keeps harassing your buddy who runs it, why is he still welcome? And if your info is correct, why would Gural even allow him on the grounds? Something doesn't seem right here. Please shed some light on this since you gave us all this info on him.
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Refresh My Memory: didn’t, last week, Petrelli have a video scheduled for Sat night (then moved to Mon) about Tioga Downs? Did he do his presentation? Did I miss it? Can someone either post the link, or give a shorthand ‘book report’ of what was said?
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Never saw anything about Tioga. He wouldn't dare speak I'll of a Gural run track!
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Steve jones’ People are going to split his head open like a watermelon if he brings his name up one more time. These aren’t the kind of people SCM wants to piss off. It’s all fun and games until he gets his ass beat. Like mark ford said he wants to see SCM make a video with a black eye. He’s stupid enough to do it.
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Never saw anything about Tioga. He wouldn't dare speak I'll of a Gural run track!
It’s around the 13:50 point in this video from last week
https://youtu.be/sb63VjCNVe4
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It’s around the 13:50 point in this video from last week
https://youtu.be/sb63VjCNVe4
I heard that before...have never heard the follow up on what he was even talking about unless I just missed it.
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Never saw anything about Tioga. He wouldn't dare speak I'll of a Gural run track!
Fuck Gural. He’s dirty too and I hope he goes down as well.
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Now he's talking about how you need to have "facts" before you say stuff. Hilarious.
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I had to come on here. How many times do we have to listen to this Petrelli bust out talk like a tough guy? He's a broke, dead beat dad punk. He is so tough! Nobody will say it to your face? Who cares? Why would anyone waste a second of their lives on you. Take your wal mart sneaker wearing Salvation Army clothes wearing ass and just stop. Take care of your horses. You have such a lack of confidence it's appalling. Every day we gotta hear "not me", "say it to my face." You've taken such poor care of yourself that you've had more heart attacks than any of the Saturday night live "Da Bears" guys have had. Stop focusing on your deflated ego and take care of your kids. You're so busy talking about training and racing on lasix is abuse when you did it less than a year ago. Tossed from Goshen because the track was so bad that you couldn't train. I thought that was abuse?? Fucking hypocrite. Instead of going to New York City tomorrow why don't you spend the day trying to get back at your children's lives? Oh, that's right you can't because they hate you! Deadbeat fuck
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I had to come on here. How many times do we have to listen to this Petrelli bust out talk like a tough guy? He's a broke, dead beat dad punk. He is so tough! Nobody will say it to your face? Who cares? Why would anyone waste a second of their lives on you. Take your wal mart sneaker wearing Salvation Army clothes wearing ass and just stop. Take care of your horses. You have such a lack of confidence it's appalling. Every day we gotta hear "not me", "say it to my face." You've taken such poor care of yourself that you've had more heart attacks than any of the Saturday night live "Da Bears" guys have had. Stop focusing on your deflated ego and take care of your kids. You're so busy talking about training and racing on lasix is abuse when you did it less than a year ago. Tossed from Goshen because the track was so bad that you couldn't train. I thought that was abuse?? Fucking hypocrite. Instead of going to New York City tomorrow why don't you spend the day trying to get back at your children's lives? Oh, that's right you can't because they hate you! Deadbeat fuck
No one is above board. Excepting him of course. He never did anything wrong, just ask him.
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Gets to the point? AGAIN does a video dedicated to his (and “others”) experiences at Tioga Downs. He mentions a vet, a trainer, and the president of the horsemen’s association. He mentions Mr. Gural, Jason, and the general manager. All these folk by name. However, unless I missed it, he doesn’t name the trainer he was paddocking for.
It’s possible he did name his employer that weekend……I have less than stellar internet, so the videos are choppy when viewed.
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SCM only give the facts of the story he wants to be shared. He has worked for people that are shady too. Notice he avoids talking about looking the other way while employed by them. Never addresses that topic. Why was that ok then SCM? And if he is soooo busy with is publcity tour, he has time to make a video about Lucpark? What a loser...and if he really knew who Haku and others were...he'd post it!
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i like mikes videos
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i like mikes videos
Please stop encouraging this moron! People might think you are serious! ngc3
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No one is above board. Excepting him of course. He never did anything wrong, just ask him.
tmbz1 ngc3
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He has some legit facts but gets lost in personal vendettas. If he would just stay on topic and list only facts and not heresay he would be alot more credible.
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Gets to the point? AGAIN does a video dedicated to his (and “others”) experiences at Tioga Downs. He mentions a vet, a trainer, and the president of the horsemen’s association. He mentions Mr. Gural, Jason, and the general manager. All these folk by name. However, unless I missed it, he doesn’t name the trainer he was paddocking for.
It’s possible he did name his employer that weekend……I have less than stellar internet, so the videos are choppy when viewed.
He did, in fact, mention the horses name in a prior video. Not sure if he mentioned the trainer involved….but did on his Harness Racing Uncovered Facebook in answer to my inquiry.
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He has some legit facts but gets lost in personal vendettas. If he would just stay on topic and list only facts and not heresay he would be alot more credible.
100 percent this!
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He has some legit facts but gets lost in personal vendettas. If he would just stay on topic and list only facts and not heresay he would be alot more credible.
Agreed. I’m sure he would gain a lot more traction to his cause.
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Harness racing needs to fix many things and work together. Mike is correct. The thing is this, we don't want someone like him representing us. Of course we all love seeing Surick and company getting locked up. It's beautiful! And do we need to fix some things? Absolutely. But we don't need someone as non credible and infantile as that creep as a representative? Not one percent. And luckily after our communications with the people in Albany these past few days, they won't be taking him seriously one bit. So right idea! Wrong person.
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Agreed. I’m sure he would gain a lot more traction to his cause.
Yes agree totally he has some very good points and information and has got certain people in a shit frenzy. All the mud slinging that's going on proves that he has got them very worried.. I wish him luck in Albany there will be people of power there that will listen and take notice of what he is saying . Throw enough shit some of it will stick
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Nah dragon. The people in New York are well aware of the stuff he has been saying and doing up too and including today. He will have his right to speak but I can assure you he will not be taking him seriously. That I know for a fact. Let him feel important. He's a tortured soul.
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He did, in fact, mention the horses name in a prior video. Not sure if he mentioned the trainer involved….but did on his Harness Racing Uncovered Facebook in answer to my inquiry.
He also mentioned that bongornio killed a horse and was proven once again to be a liar. Can some of what he’s saying be true? Absolutely but because it’s mike Petrelli not much will happen. Mike himself is on the list number two of indictments because he was doing exactly what he is busting others for. Not saying that he is totally bullshit but you have to wonder why he’s doing it now? I’ve been askin* that question why it took him so long to finally come clean yet he never answers it. If his video isn’t posted on plop I never get to see them
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He also mentioned that bongornio killed a horse and was proven once again to be a liar. Can some of what he’s saying be true? Absolutely but because it’s mike Petrelli not much will happen. Mike himself is on the list number two of indictments because he was doing exactly what he is busting others for. Not saying that he is totally bullshit but you have to wonder why he’s doing it now? I’ve been askin* that question why it took him so long to finally come clean yet he never answers it. If his video isn’t posted on plop I never get to see them
In this case it’s a bit confusing (at least for my feeble mind). I’m not sure if he was a witness to the acts…..or if he walked away after delivering the horse.
The man usually is very clever with his words.
I received a screen shot of a post he made in reference to me “messaging him” leaving the reader to infer I was ‘direct’ or ‘private’ messaging him…..wasting his time (this while I may or may not have been blocked from his page).
He knows I only posted (mostly questions) publicly.
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In this case it’s a bit confusing (at least for my feeble mind). I’m not sure if he was a witness to the acts…..or if he walked away after delivering the horse.
The man usually is very clever with his words.
I received a screen shot of a post he made in reference to me “messaging him” leaving the reader to infer I was ‘direct’ or ‘private’ messaging him…..wasting his time (this while I may or may not have been blocked from his page).
He knows I only posted (mostly questions) publicly.
The man is delusional! Who in their right mind would take him seriously? And why post a video defending yourself from accusations of being a deadbeat? When you keep saying I'm not blaming my ex and it's followed by a "but" every time, you are in fact blaming your ex you moron. I don't know, nor do I care, about that part of SCM's life. My beef is that he has gotten this undeserved sense of importance from all of this and somehow keeps claiming it's all about the horses. That could not be further from the truth. You are out to destroy Mark Ford and company. And now you've incorporated this sham to try and start a "non profit" business that pays you. Just what you complain about the other organizations.
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i wanna help anyone trying to clean up our sport
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Just curious as to how so many on here say this Mike guy lies, can’t be trusted etc. it seems what he’s saying is all true. He does have facts and if it wasn’t true I think we all know he would already have a defamation or slander lawsuit dropped on him. They looking for anything to shut him up so it appears he’s ruffling some feathers for sure. Like him or not hard to say he’s not telling the truth.
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In this case it’s a bit confusing (at least for my feeble mind). I’m not sure if he was a witness to the acts…..or if he walked away after delivering the horse.
The man usually is very clever with his words.
I received a screen shot of a post he made in reference to me “messaging him” leaving the reader to infer I was ‘direct’ or ‘private’ messaging him…..wasting his time (this while I may or may not have been blocked from his page).
He knows I only posted (mostly questions) publicly.
My Bad. I did, in fact, have a few messages from and too Petrelli. My “Biden” must have kicked in …. Absolutely did not recall it.