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Title: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 28, 2022, 07:58:17 AM
In monetary gains who are the most successful horseman in the business today?
My pic would be Mark Ford, Ray Schnitker, Steve Jones and the Burk’s.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: wiseowl on August 28, 2022, 08:06:07 AM
They all make a good living smart people do ok.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Hawkeye Gambler on August 28, 2022, 08:43:07 AM
Brent McGrath. Look at his ability to come up with big horses from limited opportunities.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Harness racer on August 28, 2022, 08:48:41 AM
Nancy Takter, collecting big training bills with average results based on her stock.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 28, 2022, 09:07:00 AM
Nancy Takter, collecting big training bills with average results based on her stock.
I agree but she’s not in the league of the ones that they had mentioned. Maybe some day.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 28, 2022, 10:24:34 AM
Brent McGrath. Look at his ability to come up with big horses from limited opportunities.
Agreed but not in the millionaire’s status that which I have mentioned.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: MikeAnt on August 28, 2022, 07:54:57 PM
In monetary gains who are the most successful horseman in the business today?
My pic would be Mark Ford, Ray Schnitker, Steve Jones and the Burk’s.
I’m a Midwest guy but follow east coast racing my whole life. Mark Ford has to make his money outside of harness racing because if you take away gallo blue chip he would be a below average trainer. Ain’t no way he is a millionaire trainer in harness racing. Rarely wins and relies on Jeff Gillis to do everything for him.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 28, 2022, 09:47:24 PM
Below average trainer? Maybe you should look up how many wins Ford has had in his career it might surprise you for a below average trainer. 

Most trainers pissed their money away at the windows, Ford made smart investments and not only that he reinvested his money into a multi million dollar top-notch facility probably the best farm in the country among  other real estate entities.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: MikeAnt on August 29, 2022, 12:03:40 AM
Below average trainer? Maybe you should look up how many wins Ford has had in his career it might surprise you for a below average trainer. 

Most trainers pissed their money away at the windows, Ford made smart investments and not only that he reinvested his money into a multi million dollar top-notch facility probably the best farm in the country among  other real estate entities.
Bingo that’s what I said that he didn’t become a millionaire from harness racing. I’m just giving you my opinion from what I’ve seen over the years. He might of won a lot races in the past but the last 10-15 years I rarely see him win. I’ve heard really good things about his farm but all that aside, he made his money outside harness racing and I’m happy for him. I talked in the phone to him twice and he sounded like a pretty nice guy.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: jupiter on August 29, 2022, 09:44:13 AM
Eddie Lowmeyer, smart businessman
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 29, 2022, 10:02:18 AM
I agree smart businessman and always ran a top-notch stable.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Pull the Pocket on August 29, 2022, 11:06:26 AM
2 of the guys unknown harness racing has issues with
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Post by: Superfecta on August 29, 2022, 04:53:07 PM
Eddie Lowmeyer, smart businessman

Eddie Lohmeyer Grew up in Monticello. Related to the Manzi family.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: carl baldwin on August 29, 2022, 08:21:52 PM
Wife is a vet?
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Post by: remington on August 29, 2022, 08:45:09 PM
Lohmeyer took a lot of money out of the windows when he was driving good guy great horseman.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 30, 2022, 11:42:34 AM
I think Eddie had a big owner that was maybe was a politician?
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Southpaw on August 30, 2022, 12:31:07 PM
Moreau and Coleman
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: jupiter on August 30, 2022, 02:30:42 PM
Eddie had money before Patty. Great family. Had alot of great horses, great owners and wasn't stupid with his money. Ray's owned a piece of every good horse he ever had, 5% trainer, 5% driver for years. He's smart, knows when to let catch driver take over now. Not afraid to get rid of crap, take the hit and it's over.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 30, 2022, 08:15:06 PM
Well said! You’re right on the money.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: LUCPARK on August 30, 2022, 08:43:14 PM
Eddie had money before Patty. Great family. Had alot of great horses, great owners and wasn't stupid with his money. Ray's owned a piece of every good horse he ever had, 5% trainer, 5% driver for years. He's smart, knows when to let catch driver take over now. Not afraid to get rid of crap, take the hit and it's over.

Intelligent horseman

Alwsys like him
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on August 31, 2022, 10:19:17 PM
Me too, I agree.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 01, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Wife is a vet?
The game needs more people like him rather then the homeless bum in Goshen.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 01, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Funny. Did I mention names?

 I said a homeless bum in Goshen and you popped up and commented? Why Mike?
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on September 01, 2022, 04:34:28 PM
They said the same for a bunch of those 28 convicts too. I did wanna say thanks for making me feel like I am back in junior high school with these "arguments" and name calling.  ngc3
Anyway, still waiting for all these people to come shut me up as has been said here, still nothin'. More gutless tripe, don't worry though I will keep entertaining and educating. Tune in next week though, we will see how many people have the spine to show up there and watch the first round of scum be sentenced.
https://youtu.be/DHoN8iIKPns
THIS WAS A VERY GOOD VIDEO POTRELLI. I SO WISH YOU WOULD CONTACT THE OLD OWNERS OF HORSEPLOP AND PUT OUT A VIDEO OF YOU ALL OF YOU GUYS DISCUSSING HARNESS RACING FROM BEHIND THE SCENES. IT WOULD BE A MILLION DOLLAR VIDEO. DAN NANCE AND JOE DAKURIS AND YOU MIKE POTRELLI WOULD DO THE SPORT SO MUCH GOOD BY BRINGING AWARENESS TO THIS BULLSHIT TO MAYBE IT COULD REVERT THE SPORT WE ALL LOVE BACK TO SOME SORT OF HONOR. THATS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. YOU GUYS GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME SHIT HAPPEN
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 02, 2022, 03:52:33 PM
Why are you yelling in all caps?
 I heard that Mike is in a process of preparing a speech at the sale ring podium prior to the sale when everybody is seated!
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: harnesstimes on September 02, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
Why are you yelling in all caps?
 I heard that Mike is in a process of preparing a speech at the sale ring podium prior to the sale when everybody is seated!

AND WHY DO YOU LIE?
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: STEVE LEITA on September 02, 2022, 05:15:37 PM
AND WHY DO YOU LIE?
tmbz1
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Post by: hammer0419 on September 02, 2022, 07:43:52 PM
EDDIE HAD WILLIAM SIMON AS AN OWNER. GOOGLE IT.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 03, 2022, 10:18:41 AM
That’s who I was thinking about William Simon!
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 03, 2022, 05:06:20 PM
tmbz1

So Mike won’t be giving a speech at the podium when everybody is seated prior to the sale?
 I heard thousands are coming to the sale to buy yearlings and to listen to the speaker of the house Mike Petrelli on the finer points of harness racing!!
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 04, 2022, 12:44:33 PM
Where might that be? Unfinished track?
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 04, 2022, 04:16:56 PM
That’s amazing Mike! I’ve never seen such an unfinished track produce so many multiple winners,  major sire stakes included. 
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 06, 2022, 07:57:37 AM
Are you kidding for life! Wow
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Harness racer on September 06, 2022, 09:43:48 AM
Guy is a long-winded douchebag.  But banned for life?  ngc3
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 07, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
Yeah, I don’t know if I would’ve banded him for life I think it’s bullshit on his part. I think he’s still around playing coy!
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 08, 2022, 01:40:01 PM
I was right he’s still here I didn’t think horse plop would do that to him.
Title: Re: Mark Ford and Ray Schnitker
Post by: Gaagoots on September 08, 2022, 08:03:03 PM
Rumor has it that the Mark Ford Farm has submit an application to the NYS Gaming Commission office to open a paramutual wagering racetrack in Wallkill New York.
 
Talking to an insider at the gaming commission, “Mr. Ford submit a application” but he hasn’t made a concrete decision yet.

Others mentioned in the application was Steve Jones and Ray Schnitker as partners in the venture.
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