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Title: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 09, 2022, 12:50:22 PM
saw purses are going up in my home state. 7 percent. while good start it seems low. not being up there right now i only know what was written. casino money is up. so i get the increase. dates are down by quite a bit. just wondering where that purse money went. id think the increase would be closer to 20 percent.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: direct flight on March 09, 2022, 03:36:16 PM
lets be happy they are racing
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 09, 2022, 06:09:54 PM
we can race twice a week. That's a 100% increase.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 10, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
yes its great maine will race this year. im just a guy good with numbers. reports of great handle and great slot revenue plus less dates should mean a hefty increase in purses. all horsemen everywhere should be paying attention to purse accounts. when i get home to maine id like to think we are racing for the biggest amount possible and that some is not being skimmed off for some other project.  its costing a lot more to live and race now.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 10, 2022, 02:21:53 PM
I would not call $50,000 to maybe $75,000 great considering that almost all is off track with literally no live handle. 
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 11, 2022, 02:11:33 AM
i agree. not much of the usta note on the purse increase did to me. i hope we can get another increase in the summer at least. going to be expensive trip north this year. expensive to ship to race.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 11, 2022, 08:09:50 AM
Starting in May between Cumb, Bangor, and the Ridge, 7 days of racing a week.  Lots of opportunities for horses and drivers. And with covid easing, SHOULD BE A FUN YEAR. GOOD LUCK TO ALL
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: whiptherabbit on March 11, 2022, 10:48:48 AM
Bangor racing only Wednesday & Sundays this summer? Guess a weekend trip means Cumberland Friday/Saturday & hit up Bangor Sunday
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: oldjohn123 on March 11, 2022, 09:48:06 PM
I would not call $50,000 to maybe $75,000 great considering that almost all is off track with literally no live handle.
1 window in the betting area and none on the back side.Should get better when we get the new track.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 12, 2022, 02:54:02 AM
i hope to live long enough to see a new track get built. anywhere.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 12, 2022, 04:19:40 AM
2 chances for a new track . Slim and None.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: oldjohn123 on March 12, 2022, 04:07:37 PM
2 chances for a new track . Slim and None.
LOL so you think the horse people got lied to?
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: the double on March 12, 2022, 05:36:43 PM
maine people lied to byIndustry  want to bees buzz buzz  no honeyfor the hive
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Mbdreamer on March 12, 2022, 08:17:04 PM
2 chances for a new track . Slim and None.
”and Slim just left town.”
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: oldjohn123 on March 12, 2022, 09:55:05 PM
”and Slim just left town.”
If he get sports betting it could happen? But most likely to do the sport betting and screw the horse people.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 13, 2022, 09:33:05 AM
The profit margins in sports betting are minimal compared to the casino business. I mean minimal. A new facility with sports betting would generate a much much younger clientele, a group that we don't have. Restaurants and bars would do well. If a track was built there, 99% of its purse revenue would come from where it is coming now. The biggest sportsbook in America, ( even more than all of Vegas) The book at The Meadowlands in Jersey contributes nothing to the horsemen's purse account. A new entertainment center would be great but also costly. And with the supply chain on just about all products a total mess now, timing when to build will be critical. The Season starts soon. Best of luck to all.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Calhoun on March 13, 2022, 10:04:15 AM
The biggest sportsbook in America, ( even more than all of Vegas)
 
The book at The Meadowlands in Jersey contributes nothing to the horsemen's purse account..
Wrong.  Again.

$4,000,000 is going to purses from the sportsbook at Meadowlands.

Are you just ignorant or lying?

Please stick with your strength ... cashing your harness racing welfare check and begging for more.

Thanks
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 13, 2022, 10:34:02 AM
Check your facts.   
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: bass park on March 13, 2022, 12:56:38 PM
When sports gambling is legalized the cumberland people will get it bcause they have an otb license. I think that they want a full casino or at least slots before a new track is built.

Chief - i hope you are crushing at pompano.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 13, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
its been a good year at the pomp. sad to see it end. lots of great times.    i hope maine does get sports gambling. anything helps. do wish for a mirical and a new track. not sure id want the cumberland management team. they seemed to not care one bit about on track attendence/handle.     lock is right that small profits on sports, but if done right with racing it could help a lot.  id think something like the old downs club dining, overlooking the track. race on sat/sunday afternoon during football. tvs on tables. might get a crossover with the racing going on in front of the sports crowd.    not great time to try much with the economy where it is now. hope that cumberland works to improve the on track experience for the few fans we have.  pomp price pick tonights first. the one horse pd the big easy. both q races were with ease and impressive, tad bit below on class but might hang on.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: dinkadoo on March 13, 2022, 06:32:46 PM
The profit margins in sports betting are minimal compared to the casino business. I mean minimal. A new facility with sports betting would generate a much much younger clientele, a group that we don't have. Restaurants and bars would do well. If a track was built there, 99% of its purse revenue would come from where it is coming now. The biggest sportsbook in America, ( even more than all of Vegas) The book at The Meadowlands in Jersey contributes nothing to the horsemen's purse account. A new entertainment center would be great but also costly. And with the supply chain on just about all products a total mess now, timing when to build will be critical. The Season starts soon. Best of luck to all.

Ohio passed sports betting that could be ready this fall -- 0% to horse racing
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 15, 2022, 05:07:45 AM
Condition sheet looks good. Lots of opportunities and the late closers go for good money.
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 15, 2022, 09:22:43 AM
purses up a bit.  cumberland only going to race 7 horses in overnights?  did they narrow the track some?
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 15, 2022, 09:31:42 AM
The track is really not designed to have 8 horse fields?  Horse shortage?
Title: Re: maine purses
Post by: chief yogi on March 15, 2022, 07:52:08 PM
i dont know either. seems to be a trend. skowhegan went 8 to 7 wide. farmington 7 to 6 wide. cumberlands been 8 wide from at least the late 70's but might have been longer than that. id think they would do a trailing horse but condition sheet says only 7 except stakes. i would think the management team would be smart enough to realise bigger fields equal better handle. horses should not be an issue. i would not think lesser quality horses will head to the ridge as much with gas so high. run where you can win id guess will be this years theme.
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