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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: JUICEJUNKIES on June 03, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
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ITS A SHAME EVERY YEAR HE FINDS A WAY TO KEEP THE MONEY EARMARKED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RACING. JUST KEEPS GETTING RICHER WHILE FUCKING OVER THE PUBLIC.
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ITS A SHAME EVERY YEAR HE FINDS A WAY TO KEEP THE MONEY EARMARKED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RACING. JUST KEEPS GETTING RICHER WHILE FUCKING OVER THE PUBLIC.
Just like Don the Con.
They :1 who they can, for as long as they can, take the donation money and then cry hoax and fraud 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Lady that worked there for a dozen years just got killed in a car crash on the road otherside of track ..She was on her way to work and 20 year old kid also on his way to track to work crashed into her...She bartended
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Her name was Tracy..
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Lady that worked there for a dozen years just got killed in a car crash on the road otherside of track ..She was on her way to work and 20 year old kid also on his way to track to work crashed into her...She bartended
THE OLDER REAL NICE LADY WHO WORKED BAR IN CASINO ALOT? I BELIEVE HER SON WORKED THERE TO???
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She was 49
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https://wibx950.com/vernon-downs-on-track-to-get-help-from-the-state/
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She was 49
THANKFULLY NOT WHO I THOUGHT IT WAS,,,
RIP TO THIS YOUNG LADY,,,
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Her name was Tracy..
awful sad
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they wont get enough to pait the picnic tables,its worth about $230 for improvements
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ITS BETWEEN 70,000-100,000 A MONTH.
ALL THESE YEARS THAT MONEY HAS BEEN WASTED AND NOW IS BEING PUT RIGHT INTO GURAL POCKETS.
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THE BIG QUESTION IS WHERE WAS THIS MONEY SPENT FOR THE LAST DECADE PLUS,,,
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MY GOD THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE HORSEMEN THRU THE YEARS TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE SPORT AS WELL AS TO TAKE CHARGE OF THEIR OWN DESTINY!!!! FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHILE THE HORSEMAN AND /OR THE HORSEMAN ORGANIZATIONS DID NOT TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR FUTURES---THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY WITH EDUCATED SINCERE HONEST LEADERS. SOMEHOW---NONE OF THE SLOT MONEY FELL THE RIGHT WAY---JUST WENT TO MAKING A SELECT FEW VERY WEALTHY BUT YET LEAVE THE SPORT IN SHAMBLES WITHOUT LEADERSHIP!!
THIS SPORT LACKS QUALIFIED SINCERE LEADERS!!! OBVIOUSLY THE MILLIONS WENT TO A SELECT FEW WITHOUT ANY INTEREST IN PRESERVING THE FUTURE OF THE SPORT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
MR. GURAL SAW AN OPPORTUNITY---TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY AND ADDED TO HIS NET WORTH!! I DID NOT SEE ANYONE COMPETE WITH HIM---JUST FOLLOWED. I CANNOT BLAME AND QUITE FRANKLY I GIVE MR. GURAL CREDIT FOR TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND SEEING THE FUTURE! NEVER SAW THE MAN IN MY LIFE BUT HE WAS WISE ENOUGH TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY!
MY GOD---THIS ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN MANGED BY THE HORSEMEN. THEY HAD THE MONEY AND THE BUDGET TO BRING IN STRONG SELECT LEADERS TO FIGHT FOR THEIR FUTURE!! ALL THAT CASH TO A SELECT FEW AND THE USTA IN FEES.
THIS BATTLE SHOULD HAVE TURNED OUT TO THE BENEFIT OF THE HORSEMEN!
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how is it possible 70k amonth,think about it, NC
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THATS THE LOWEST ITS EVER BEEN 68,000 IN A MONTH. WELL BESIDES THE COVID CLOSED MONTHS WHICH WERE ZEROS.
https://www.gaming.ny.gov/gaming/index.php?ID=4
THE CASINO IS HANDLING AT LEAST 6 MILLION A WEEK.
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IN APRIL ALONE, MAY ISNT UPDATED YET, GURALS AGENT COMMISSION WAS OVER 1.1 MILLION FOR THE MONTH.
Agent Commission APRIL 2021
$1,185,416
AGENT COMMISSION DEFINITION FROM NY GAMING.
The portion of Net Win paid to the casino operator as compensation for operating the gaming facility. Most operating expenses of the gaming facility are paid from the agent commission (including the horse racing subsidies), with the exception of the gaming floor itself, which is provided by the other vendors and paid for by the Lottery.
Effective April 12th, Chapter 59 of the Laws of 2019 repealed and replaced the existing marketing and capital award programs. Pursuant to the new provisions, agent commission rates are inclusive of marketing and capital award funds. Agents shall dedicate 4% of net win, subject to a $2.5 million annual cap, to capital award projects.
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What selective memories, some have. Vernon Downs was dead and buried for a decade or more. The Vernon are horsemen were sold out by the Oneida County officials along with Gov. Coumo and his Indian deal.
In a ploy to get the Indians to pay a portion the huge amount tax money they owed, in Cuomo's annual cash grab for his bloated budget, they struck a deal that left VD on life support.
It was Gural, that funded VD to continue to house and race as he continued to strategies and negotiate with the State to keep the place alive.
If anyone has some proof Jeffery has skimmed or is skimming, please post.
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What selective memories, some have. Vernon Downs was dead and buried for a decade or more. The Vernon are horsemen were sold out by the Oneida County officials along with Gov. Coumo and his Indian deal.
In a ploy to get the Indians to pay a portion the huge amount tax money they owed, in Cuomo's annual cash grab for his bloated budget, they struck a deal that left VD on life support.
It was Gural, that funded VD to continue to house and race as he continued to strategies and negotiate with the State to keep the place alive.
If anyone has some proof Jeffery has skimmed or is skimming, please post.
HE’S NOT SKIMMING, HE’S JUST BEING GREEDY NEGLECTING THE FACILITIES WHILE HE LINES HIS POCKETS. AND CONVINCING THE STATE CONSTANTLY TO INCREASE HIS TAKE WHILE NEGLECTING THE FACILITIES.
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As is every track owner with little or no future is putting in the minimum to stay compliant. Gural has gone way beyond that yet, he still has zero credibility with some people. This is still a business. Tough decision are made everyday.
I guess yo have never raced at some real shit holes.
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how much would it cost to mow the grass? that would be an improvement!
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Vernon Downs is a county club compared to most NY tracks.
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how much do you think gurals cash profit is from vernon downs?
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MAY 2021 GURAL TAKE WAS 1,180,000.
APRIL 1,185,000.
YES THAT’S MILLION DOLLAR AGENT COMMISSION PAST 2 MONTHS. HE HAS TO TAKE PURSE SUBSIDY OUT. THEN PAY HIS EMPLOYEES. HE KEEPS THE LEFTOVERS.
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are there any leftovers?
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Vernon doesn`tmake shit and would have been done years ago if not for Gural.
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See what stallions will stand in NY when VD takes a shit.
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are there any leftovers?
Plenty.
From 1,100,000 he pays purses and track expenses. Its 100,000 a week in purses.
Leaves 700,000 a month for track employees and expenses. The casino employees are paid under another line.
The casino expenses for 7 day a week security, all the employees, etc is 200,000 a month. Let’s say track payroll is bigger for 2 days a week (its not bigger but let’s be liberal). 300,000 payroll a month.
Leaves 400,000 leftover.
The guy is making a fortune. In this example we don’t add any proceeds for months that Vernon is closed, the slots keep on spinning even when track is dark.
Gural is fucking over the connunity, the track, the state, etc. a total fucking creepy greedy scum.
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Gural is the type who makes 500,000 this month and if next month he makes 495,000 he wants someone fired or the rules changed and tells everyone he lost 5,000 last month.
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You seen to know a lot about Gurals business.
Vernon/Tioga will be the last N Y S Harness tracks to close……
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You seen to know a lot about Gurals business.
Vernon/Tioga will be the last N Y S Harness tracks to close……
THEY JUST NUMBERS FROM THE SAME REPORTS EVERY ONE OF THE CASINOS HAS TO SHARE.