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Title: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Meadows King on May 12, 2021, 01:45:02 PM
Any info on horses and drivers ? 
Title: Re: Saratoga second race accident video
Post by: WTF Hanover on May 12, 2021, 05:47:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nod_snDec8
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Fatboy on May 12, 2021, 06:48:23 PM
  This was bad....keep us updated please.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on May 12, 2021, 06:52:04 PM
Why was this a no contest?   
It had zero effect on the 3 leaders.   

Was the 9 lame or did King wrestle for so long early in mile she soured?
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Brown jug on May 12, 2021, 06:59:59 PM
not trying to be uncaring to drivers and horses but i agree the race should have stood
the 3 finishers were clear of any issues
i did not see any loose horses that could have been considered a threat
i think many times after a bad spill where a horse is loose or  they have to go past the downed horses again the race should immediately be called a no contest
if there was a superfecta that pool should have been refunded but all others should have paid out
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: looseonthelead on May 12, 2021, 07:24:00 PM
A no contest is usually called when half the field does not finish. To say that with 3/8 of a mile to go no one could have finished third or fourth anyway is foolish. Owners have a right to earn, not just bettors. The issue at hand is that Sam King has no business out there. The horse was 85/1, steppy the whole way, and was trying to fall down 100 yards before he actually did. Why King was advanced to an "A" is beyond me. He needs to be knocked down to a "Q" for at least 60 days, then probationary license until the end of the year.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: toothman on May 12, 2021, 11:00:31 PM
copied without permission from Dave Brower FB
A reminder that racing horses can be very dangerous at times! Second big accident in a week. This is copied from Jackie Cantine.
Update on Jay Randall
Jay has 7 broken ribs on his left side and some are displaced. They may do surgery to put plates on them to help him breathe better. He has 2 broken ribs on the right side, but not displaced. He has some minor fractures where his ribs connect to his back spine that will heal on their own. He has a chest tube because he had blood in his chest. They are not worried about the brain bleed right now but will monitor it to make sure it doesn't get any worse. They are making him breathe in a tube to force him to expand his lungs so he doesn't get pneumonia. That's their biggest worry right now. He's in a lot of pain. He is in the ICU and they are going to keep him at least 3 days to monitor his breathing and brain bleed
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: joemomma on May 12, 2021, 11:16:09 PM
Praying he pulls though with no lasting disabilities.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: chief yogi on May 12, 2021, 11:32:59 PM
horrible. pray that he and the other drivers and horses return to top health asap.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: riley on May 13, 2021, 06:42:38 AM
 tmbz1   tmbz1   tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: June b on May 13, 2021, 08:29:54 AM
Real nice man hoping for the best! Whatever judge gave King a license should be fired!
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: racing123 on May 13, 2021, 09:19:51 AM
have to agree with the others who said sam king's ability as an "A" driver looked pretty questionable out there...
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Brown jug on May 13, 2021, 10:06:11 AM
yeah, that was tough to watch, it was clear the first horse that started it was in trouble
I assume randall was the one who went through the air and seemed to land on a sulky before hitting the ground
looked nasty for sure
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Meadows King on May 13, 2021, 12:23:35 PM
Dosnt take a bad train or driver or drugs for a Accidents to happen it takes an incompetent state vet not to see it and scratch a horse when it’s lame I’ve seen too many state vets let horses go to post when they should’ve been scratched
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: NJ The best on May 13, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
Damn that was a bad one.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Meadows King on May 13, 2021, 02:32:59 PM
Once your a A driver judges can’t take that away.  But judges sure can give days or major fines.   
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on May 13, 2021, 02:38:54 PM
yeah, that was tough to watch, it was clear the first horse that started it was in trouble
I assume randall was the one who went through the air and seemed to land on a sulky before hitting the ground
looked nasty for sure

THAT WAS GRAY I THINK.
I COULDN’T SEE RANDALL I THINK HE WAS UNDER EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: horsetruth on May 15, 2021, 05:13:44 PM
Stand Forever you have GOD's cell phone I would like to put in a good word on Jay he is a good guy.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on May 15, 2021, 10:12:14 PM
yes, 2nd accident in a week. gods trying to clean house of horse abusers. maybe next one worse. Watch out

Its obvious this guy hates and wishes death and misery upon anyone who is associated with racing, but like it or not mr. Forever, there are a few good ones out there. Im just thankful I'm not going through life as miserable as you seem to be.
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Fatboy on May 16, 2021, 09:16:54 AM
Its obvious this guy hates and wishes death and misery upon anyone who is associated with racing, but like it or not mr. Forever, there are a few good ones out there. Im just thankful I'm not going through life as miserable as you seem to be.

  Don't know wich end to feed a horse but talks alot of trash, agreed. tmbz1.  Likely alone now, persistent loser, program borrower....
Title: Re: Saratoga second race ax
Post by: Babinga on May 17, 2021, 12:36:12 PM
not trying to be uncaring to drivers and horses but i agree the race should have stood

I agree too and it went even further than that.  This race and race 12 were divisions of the Virginia O'Brien Series.  Due to race 2 being declared a No Contest, they decided to delay the series.  Putting aside the issue of good sportsmanship, which can be debated with legit arguments on both sides, is this fair to the 3 finishers in race 2 and the top finishers in race 12?  They were supposed to earn points last week and this week to get into the final next week.  Now they are going to start all over again in a coupe of weeks.  Does anyone remember an entire series being delayed due to an accident in one race?   

Babi 
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