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Title: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: HornbyDuke on January 24, 2021, 06:13:24 PM
https://dailygazette.com/2021/01/23/rivers-casino-in-schenectady-could-benefit-significantly-from-cuomo-proposals/
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: The Exporter on January 26, 2021, 11:10:44 AM
Nice read, 'Duke. No conversation on how mobile sports wagering will impact horse racing and brick and mortar casinos. If history of wagering outside of the host, (OTB,ADW...) tells us anything, There will be greater gross sales but, slimmer margins. As well as cannibalizing racings markets.
 Bottom line, none of this is good news for horse racing.
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: horsetruth on January 28, 2021, 05:08:17 PM
What does Saratoga do for the State of New York?

Matter of time IMO


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Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: In front on January 31, 2021, 11:54:55 AM
Racing will be over in NY by 2023, fact
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: Superfecta on January 31, 2021, 01:01:24 PM
Pathetic that a casino in Schenectady should have to pay slot welfare to horsemen in Saratoga some 30 miles away. Complete joke that this "sport" is 100 % dependent on handouts from others. The time has come to decouple all of these half milers in NY and that would pave the way for The Meadowlands to race 6 days a week and do 5 million plus in handle night after night. End this charade of free money already.

That won't ever happen. The Meadowlands already have enough horses and won't expand to 3 days a week.
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: In front on January 31, 2021, 01:13:01 PM
That won't ever happen. The Meadowlands already have enough horses and won't expand to 3 days a week.

Correct, it’s not for lack of horses, it’s for lack of bettors
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: Foalin at 4 on January 31, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Pathetic that a casino in Schenectady should have to pay slot welfare to horsemen in Saratoga some 30 miles away. Complete joke that this "sport" is 100 % dependent on handouts from others. The time has come to decouple all of these half milers in NY and that would pave the way for The Meadowlands to race 6 days a week and do 5 million plus in handle night after night. End this charade of free money already.
     
     The deal between Rivers Casino and Saratoga Raceway was brokered with the state long before Rivers Casino was ever built. All parties involved agreed to the percentages, which allowed Rivers to be built and siphon off a percentage of gamblers from Saratoga. Lets all not be too stupid how these deals are made, it's all about greasing Governor Cuomo's palm.
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: The Exporter on January 31, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
... and now , the Governor wants it all.
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: sfdecoy on January 31, 2021, 07:19:04 PM
What does Saratoga do for the State of New York?

Matter of time IMO


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The owner of the harness track (and casino) has provided the State well over $1B, dip shit. Google it.

And also maybe educate yourself your dumb ass on WTF you post on....just a thought, but probably too complicated for you.

Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: HornbyDuke on February 23, 2021, 06:48:59 PM
New article in todays tu:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Saratoga-Springs-fights-for-VLT-aid-again-15973385.php

Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: horsetruth on February 23, 2021, 07:11:37 PM
Sfdecoy the horses do nothing for the state. Zip, Zero. Whether its right or wrong there is a time the States will use the money for something else.
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: HornbyDuke on March 01, 2021, 03:24:10 PM
Latest:

Governor's budget proposal threatens Saratoga harness racing, industry officials say https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Governor-s-budget-proposal-threatens-Saratoga-15988608.php
Title: Re: NY Proposed Budget Implications Saratoga
Post by: tumbleweed on March 01, 2021, 03:28:37 PM
not good
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