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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Calhoun on January 16, 2021, 03:54:50 PM
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and no one will even notice
Fraser, Century, The Track on 2 (wtf is that, please), Exhibition, Fredericton, Inverness, Northside, Truro, Clinton, Dresden, Georgian, Grand River, Hanover, Hawatha, Kawathra, Leamington, Rideau Carton, Charlotton, Summerside, Hippoydrone.
If you don't handle, 25% of purses, you are beyond welfare,,, We'll make plans to re-train you.
We need these welfare dollars redirected to worthy causes.
This leaves London, Flamboro and Mohawk. TBH, one of two 1/2's should go as well.
Bettors will respond.
We need to think of the gamblers and taxpyers.
End the Welfare state.
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For the good of the game and to make our schools and roads better, these should go...
Batavia, Buffalo, Harrington, Philly, Dayton, Bangor, Scarboto, Meadows, Northville, HarringtonMontice llo,Northville, Ocean, Rosecroft,Plainaridge, Pocono,Run Aces, Scioto, Sartoga, Tioga, Hawthorne, Vernon.
We need to keep Red Mile, Pompano, Northfield, Meadowlands, Freehold, Dover, CalEx, Yonkers
That's all,
One track at 1:00... One at 4:30 ... One at 730.
If you bust out, we'll have training programs.
End the welfare.
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I've been betting on harness for over 50 years. Probably bet on fifty to a hundred thousand races.
I can count on both my hands the number of races I've bet on from Pompano, Freehold and Cal Expo. Never bet on a Cal Expo race in my life. So I humbly disagree with your picks of who to keep.
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calhoun, your brilliant
yes lets close all the tracks amidst a pandemic when unemployment is and will continue to increase
so your plan is to just put these people on unemployment and have them contribute nothing to society
they may not be the best for gambling but they keep thousands employed at the tracks and downstream from there
going forward many businesses will be continue to be supported by government to survive
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Keep Freehold? Calhoun, is that a misprint?
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he meant Freeload
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he meant Freeload
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I've been betting on harness for over 50 years. Probably bet on fifty to a hundred thousand races.
I can count on both my hands the number of races I've bet on from Pompano, Freehold and Cal Expo. Never bet on a Cal Expo race in my life. So I humbly disagree with your picks of who to keep.
You are a rookie, I have bet since 1971 , well over 2 million races tmbz1
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calhoun, your brilliant
yes lets close all the tracks amidst a pandemic when unemployment is and will continue to increase
so your plan is to just put these people on unemployment and have them contribute nothing to society
they may not be the best for gambling but they keep thousands employed at the tracks and downstream from there
going forward many businesses will be continue to be supported by government to survive
Let's not pretend here. The Welfare Horsemen State takes and takes and it's not even close.
What about silent movies? Video stores? Road Maps? Porno theaters?
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calhoun, your brilliant
yes lets close all the tracks amidst a pandemic when unemployment is and will continue to increase
so your plan is to just put these people on unemployment and have them contribute nothing to society
they may not be the best for gambling but they keep thousands employed at the tracks and downstream from there
going forward many businesses will be continue to be supported by government to survive
When we go back to work flipping burgers or hauling hay, it's 15 bux an hour according to Sleepy Joe. Close 'em.
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over 2 million races thats what about 110 races a day each and every day. i thought i was a degenerate. you the man. im lucky if i bet 20 races in a day.
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Somebody tellin some huge fuckin lies on this thread already. Not even 2nd page yet. How? :P
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Keep Freehold? Calhoun, is that a misprint?
No. Freehold handled $650,000 today. And the industry needs a short track in NJ.
In Canada, the only place that has any kind of horse industry is Ontario. We leave 3 tracks there.
But tracks handling $3,000 a race do exactly what for anyone other than the welfare recipients?
The people's money that goes to these useless tracks is better spent on kids and roads.
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Somebody tellin some huge fuckin lies on this thread already. Not even 2nd page yet. How? :P
2 million races is a damn lot. But back in the day you couldbet the last race at Windsor, drive like a mother fucker and make the last at Hazel.
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I've been betting on harness for over 50 years. Probably bet on fifty to a hundred thousand races.
I can count on both my hands the number of races I've bet on from Pompano, Freehold and Cal Expo. Never bet on a Cal Expo race in my life. So I humbly disagree with your picks of who to keep.
Pompano has a 12% pick 5 and has had dozens of great carryover pools over the years.
Are you just a race to race guy or do you just hate your money?
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I only bet on horses with class. That leaves Pompano out. And I've been there. Cesspool ... and that was in the early 80s. From what I hear it hasn't changed.
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the condition of the amenities or the location etc at tracks is meaningless
they are a tv production to fill the airwaves and allow wagering
even before covid nobody went anyway
why spend money on the grandstand or food and beverage when no one comes anyway
they are better to spend money on top flight hd signals, camera angles, track lighting for video clarity etc
that does not hold for the major tracks like mohawk, meadowlands and one or two others who host the big races, they need to do all they can in those areas to encourage customers to come even if it is just on weekends and major race nights
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2 million races is a damn lot. But back in the day you couldbet the last race at Windsor, drive like a mother fucker and make the last at Hazel.
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a track needs to handle 20 times what the pursesare to break even,in not you are on wellfare
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You are a rookie, I have bet since 1971 , well over 2 million races tmbz1
agree
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theres not one track that is self sustaining, maybe calx is best of the best but if thats what we hitch our wagons too then just close the doors. harness racing refused to clean up and soon enough this pandemic will shutter them like the rest of america
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theres not one track that is self sustaining, maybe calx is best of the best but if thats what we hitch our wagons too then just close the doors. harness racing refused to clean up and soon enough this pandemic will shutter them like the rest of america
Agree 100
a track needs to handle 20 times what the pursesare to break even,in not you are on wellfare
Agree 100. Not long ago takeout was 1/3 for track, 1/3 for state and 1/3 for horseman.
You know all this. But tooday's horseman has no clue and no care for the bettor. They all do know the cost of a new F-250 and where to get narcotics.
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Calhoun, You and I are almost in complete agreement on tracks needing to be shut down. I would disagree with you on 2 tracks. Meadowlands should be closed. The ONLY reason Gural agreed to run it, is with a chance at a future casino there. The other track, I know I will sound hypocritical because of my stance on welfare tracks, is Running Aces. They should remain open, only because they do one thing that all other harness tracks do not. Running Aces actually has PEOPLE go and watch the races at the track. If the "sport" is to survive, it MUST attract a fan base. With so much regulated competition, harness racing is in a death spiral. Only attracting the public's interest, will allow it to survive, long term.
Sincerely, Silent One
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the condition of the amenities or the location etc at tracks is meaningless
they are a tv production to fill the airwaves and allow wagering
even before covid nobody went anyway
While I agree, I wish the track management who know that this business has turned into an internet / stay at home game would up the TV program and quality of video and sound.
I peeked in on a race at Freehold on Saturday and I think they are using the same video software program that Raceway Park had in Toledo.
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WTF is right. You should go and no one will miss you. And that's a fact Jack.
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