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Title: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 03:42:43 PM
https://harnessracingupdate.com/2020/12/05/a-new-pat-lachance-is-on-fire-at-yonkers/
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Brown jug on December 07, 2020, 04:27:22 PM
good article
 I think he explained why he styed glued to the rail
he says he could barely keep up , if he pulls and parks he would not even get a cheque
 he admits most nights he was racing for 3rd or worse
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on December 07, 2020, 04:33:00 PM
Pats a good guy. Nice to see him doing well
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
SO BASICALLY

THE PUBLIC WAS CHEATED

  HORSEMEN WERE CHEATED ,,OWNERS WERE CHEATED ,,

THE PUBLIC WAS CHEATED

THE BLAME SHOULD BE FULLY PUT ON YONKERS AND RACE SEC,





Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: horsetruth on December 07, 2020, 06:26:20 PM
Cheating trainers at were indicted making racing at Yonkers reasonable.
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 06:40:48 PM
Cheating trainers at were indicted making racing at Yonkers reasonable.

SO GUYS LIKE LACHNCE

KNEW THEY HAD NO CHANCE GOING IN THE RACES

THATS A TERRIBLE FEELING WHEN U KNOW THE HOUSE IS IN ON THE CHEATING  YOUR BEING CHEATED AND YOUR RACING FOR 3RD AND 4TH PLACE CKS IF THAT
 AND

YOU CANT DO NOTHIN ABOUT IT,,

IF THE FBI DIDI NOT CATCH THE FCKIN NITWITS TALKIN AND BRAGGIN ON FONES

NOTHIN WOOD HAVE GOTTEN DONE

MEANING

YONKERS DID FCKIN NOTHIN BY THEMSELVES TO STOP THE CHEATING THEY KNEW ABOUT

1000 PERCENT FACT

YOU GOTTA  BE A FCKIN ASSHOLE TO WATCH LET ALONE  EVEN BET THAT TRACK AGAIN


SO LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT

 WHEN THE ASSHOLES WERE HIGH FIVING THEMSELVES IN THE WINNER CIRCLES  HUGGING THEMSELVES 

ACTING LIKE TRAINERS

 THEY KNEW ALL ALL THEY WERE

FUCKIN THE PUBLIC tmbz1 tmbz1

LIFETIME BAN ..IN ORDER
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Mazola on December 07, 2020, 06:45:45 PM
SO GUYS LIKE LACHNCE

KNEW THEY HAD NO CHANCE GOING IN THE RACES

THATS A TERRIBLE FEELING WHEN U KNOW THE HOUSE IS IN ON THE CHEATING  YOUR BEING CHEATED AND YOUR RACING FOR 3RD AND 4TH PLACE CKS IF THAT
 AND

YOU CANT DO NOTHIN ABOUT IT,,

IF THE FBI DIDI NOT CATCH THE FCKIN NITWITS TALKIN AND BRAGGIN ON FONES

NOTHIN WOOD HAVE GOTTEN DONE

MEANING

YONKERS DID FCKIN NOTHIN BY THEMSELVES TO STOP THE CHEATING THEY KNEW ABOUT

1000 PERCENT FACT

YOU GOTTA  BE A FCKIN ASSHOLE TO WATCH LET ALONE  EVEN BET THAT TRACK AGAIN


SO LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT

 WHEN THE ASSHOLES WERE HIGH FIVING THEMSELVES IN THE WINNER CIRCLES  HUGGING THEMSELVES 

ACTING LIKE TRAINERS

 THEY KNEW ALL ALL THEY WERE

FUCKIN THE PUBLIC tmbz1 tmbz1

LIFETIME BAN ..IN ORDER


 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on December 07, 2020, 08:05:08 PM
tmbz1 tmbz1

Luc spot on here. Ban them all for life. The honest guys had no chance
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: PIGLAND on December 07, 2020, 08:15:53 PM
they love filth at yonkers,i cant bet there
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 10:31:31 PM
they love filth at yonkers,i cant bet there

fckin dump..

belongs in the shithole which is called new york city
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Harness Stats on December 07, 2020, 10:32:46 PM


LIFETIME BAN ..IN ORDER

Re: Please Mr President Trump, Pardon my boy Nickie
Good guy

Very wealthy

Successful trainer on a come back trail in 2022

Successful breeder.

Won’t need a presidential pardon



Luc told u guys first


Didn't that wealthy christian landscaper Nickie guy race at Yonkers?  Should he be banded too?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
Re: Please Mr President Trump, Pardon my boy Nickie

Didn't that wealthy christian landscaper Nickie guy race at Yonkers?  Should he be banded too?  ;D ;D

i wood be suprised if he didnt

,,,

sandy the landscaper has axed god for forgivness

god said yes

tracks and public said no

,,,its probably best these  29 go to jail or get lifetime bans

im hearing very bad things about most of them now,,

its terrible how greed and a few dollars can make even the best

become scum


Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Harness Stats on December 07, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
So can we mark this day in history as the day where Lucpark has finally abandoned his defense and optimistic future for the landscaper in question? ..... No more 2022 comeback ?? 
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 07, 2020, 10:50:35 PM
So can we mark this day in history as the day where Lucpark has finally abandoned his defense and optimistic future for the landscaper in question? ..... No more 2022 comeback ??

This article today really hit me hard

I don’t like cheating  Yonkers

Blatantly allowed cheating the public

Who’s more at fault sandals or the track mentioned

Idk

I’m hurt confused looking for a way for sandals to escape

I don’t see it

Losing faith in human nature at this point
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: swoodall on December 07, 2020, 11:30:18 PM
https://harnessracingupdate.com/2020/12/05/a-new-pat-lachance-is-on-fire-at-yonkers/


The world is upside down when a LaChance is complaining about cheating! 43z.stf

So when daddy and Filion were running the show it was okay? 11.wp 94z.sm
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: LUCPARK on December 08, 2020, 12:04:06 AM
When a driver/ trainer finally speaks about the corruption ATA RACE TRACK

Fbi and courts have to make the right decision

PUBLIC WAS CHEATED.
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 08, 2020, 08:31:35 AM
The purse money and gambling dollars gained from " the edge" would be in the millions,  if found guilty will be interesting to see what happens next
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Emperor Dapple on December 08, 2020, 08:51:32 AM
fckin dump..

belongs in the shithole which is called new york city

Actually not located in NYC ,located  just north of the Bronx in Westchester County..But either way I agree with you it has been a shit hole for as long as I can remember..
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Brown jug on December 09, 2020, 09:58:34 AM
a few things that are puzzling
you know other horsepeople felt the same for years but nobody said anything
you would think at some point if people were stealing your livelihood you would do something
of course when the people at the top turn a blind eye I guess it is hard
oh and by the way that nacney takter had some kind of year especially from September on
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Stan durbread on December 10, 2020, 05:43:59 AM
Many complaints were filed with race commission and USTA   The common response was “ don’t be jealous, they just have better horses than you and they work harder than you”
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: dinkadoo on December 10, 2020, 06:33:02 AM
SO BASICALLY

THE PUBLIC WAS CHEATED

  HORSEMEN WERE CHEATED ,,OWNERS WERE CHEATED ,,

THE PUBLIC WAS CHEATED

THE BLAME SHOULD BE FULLY PUT ON YONKERS AND RACE SEC,
not just Yonkers -- everywhere

I've been saying for years, the horsemen that race at Northfield for decades have been taking it in the ass whether racing for peanuts or slot infused purses.....
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Brown jug on December 10, 2020, 10:29:21 AM
I am not going to defend pat lachance or condemn him for past actions, I don't know enough
the point is there are many horseman like him or lower than him on the food chain that felt the same and lost a livelihood or at the very least a standard of living by not being able to compete against some trainers who are now no longer there for FBI reasons
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: hoosierboy on December 10, 2020, 12:07:03 PM
not just Yonkers -- everywhere

I've been saying for years, the horsemen that race at Northfield for decades have been taking it in the ass whether racing for peanuts or slot infused purses.....

The FBI could get people at every track if they wanted to.  If track and racing commissions could make it a criminal offense for doping horses a lot would change.  If you think about it a positive test is basically fixing a race
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: HornbyDuke on December 10, 2020, 01:24:03 PM
Public did react to cheating. Yonkers handle went in crapper. I used to play jonkers in the 90s and early few yrs of 2000 century. Now, I place 2 or 3 bets a yr and only when I see an angle that makes me think the finish order is a foregone  conclusion. Even then, can't bet what I might without impacting odds a lot. Ever see their typical p3,4 and 5 payouts? ngc3

Remarkable thing about Jonkers is no attempt was even made to hide cheating - blatant - right in face of regulators, public, management etc.

Shame given historical  significance of that track to harness industry.
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Superfecta on December 10, 2020, 11:03:24 PM
Public did react to cheating. Yonkers handle went in crapper. I used to play jonkers in the 90s and early few yrs of 2000 century. Now, I place 2 or 3 bets a yr and only when I see an angle that makes me think the finish order is a foregone  conclusion. Even then, can't bet what I might without impacting odds a lot. Ever see their typical p3,4 and 5 payouts? ngc3

Remarkable thing about Jonkers is no attempt was even made to hide cheating - blatant - right in face of regulators, public, management etc.

Shame given historical  significance of that track to harness industry.

The cheaters cried that Lou Pena cheated better than they did so they got rid of him at that time.
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Balmoral buzz on December 11, 2020, 03:08:44 AM
So pat la-no chance suddenly is winning races. Why didn’t he say something five years ago? He is a no hands driving loser and always will be. What about his old man cheating the betting public for 30 years? I hope the other trainers and drivers park his ass every race. This guy is what is wrong with racing. Wants to come forward and speak out now that others are caught. Sounds like the FBI should arrest and prosecute his ass when he openly admits that he knew the races were rigged. Pat La-no chance cheated the public just as much by stiffing because he knew the other horses were juiced and didn’t report it. He is the problem folks.
Title: Re: DRIVER/TRAINER FINALLY TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT YONKERS LAST 5 YRS
Post by: Zippychippy423 on December 11, 2020, 08:06:26 AM
This has absolutely nothing to do with who or what is racing at Yonkers. It has everything to do with getting rid of the “ passing lane “.Everyone had to change up their strategy. The passing lane is what made everything a level playing field.
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