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Title: the cullen clan
Post by: Brown jug on October 19, 2020, 09:45:21 PM
i was going to suggest that surely someone from the AGCO or whatever governing body pretends to regulate ontario should drop by the cullen , andrew , hennsley stables for a little peek a boo
but i see tonight  2 cullen horses scratched tonight at western fair but the third one entered did race
maybe they were just sick ..hmmm??
but lets be honest , in the last two weeks they have had some horses drop seconds and run off the screen
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: mwins on October 20, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: AsPromised on October 20, 2020, 08:36:11 AM
Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?

It's well known here in Alberta about Cullen and Hensley.
Cullen was told he wasn't welcome here.
He has had numerous positives since going to Ontario.
They obviously still cheating and are picking their spots.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 20, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
How about Blair Burgess or John Bax or John Kopas to name just a few who does right by the horse but can't buy a win because of the cheating. These guys are horsemen and have proven it but many claim they are hacks which is unfair. What makes me laugh is all these horsemen associations who sit back and do nothing rather than stand up for the horsemen. The game is a joke.

What about Darling fuck face. Cheating too?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Brown jug on October 20, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
I don't think everyone cheats
 I think some push the envelope beyond what is fair or within the rules
some of the form reversal on some horses is beyond reasonable and needs to be investigated
dreamfair moxy, yes has been in the Cullen barn for quite some time
finished 4th at flam in nw $1,500 at 6:1
comes to Mohawk  in nw $3,000 and goes off at 4:1
in 5 starts prior to the mohawk start the horse had made $400 in total
flam time 156
Mohawk time 149.3 wins by 9 going awayand steps up the next week and paces in 151.4  finishing 5th while another cullen horse wins at 7:1
thats tough for people to gamble on
and there have been others
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 20, 2020, 03:27:02 PM
I don't think everyone cheats
 I think some push the envelope beyond what is fair or within the rules
some of the form reversal on some horses is beyond reasonable and needs to be investigated
dreamfair moxy, yes has been in the Cullen barn for quite some time
finished 4th at flam in nw $1,500 at 6:1
comes to Mohawk  in nw $3,000 and goes off at 4:1
in 5 starts prior to the mohawk start the horse had made $400 in total
flam time 156
Mohawk time 149.3 wins by 9 going awayand steps up the next week and paces in 151.4  finishing 5th while another cullen horse wins at 7:1
thats tough for people to gamble on
and there have been others

This can't be the first time you've seen a horse drop in class and then run off the screen?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Frank the Zipper on October 20, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
The success that hard work brings can make you seem like a cheater to losers.

" The harder I work the luckier i get " {Ben Franklin}
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 20, 2020, 06:14:13 PM
If you could comprehend I named a few honest horsemen but true to form you go off half cocked. Look you still haven't told me if you will show at the Inn, the parking lot is fine with me Fuckface.

You fuckin idiot. Just message me who you are and I will find you. I swear to Christ I'm not shy. I'm in my 50s and in Scarborough. I'm sure yur much older so not sure yur deserving of losing chiclets but a humiliating bitch slap is definately warranted for typical rats like you.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Frank the Zipper on October 20, 2020, 06:26:13 PM
EASY BOYS!
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 20, 2020, 06:33:53 PM
EASY BOYS!

He's a rat fuck bustout that comes on here spewing absolute bullshit about people I know. He's a 100% bullshit artist.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Brown jug on October 20, 2020, 07:26:39 PM
well if you are referring to dreamfair moxy my point was he actually moved up in class, couldn't make much in 5 prior starts at b's and jumps up at mohawk
also i don't begrudge any success via hardwork , in any business there are some people who are better, smarter and work harder and deserve the success they get
i guess in this case the cullen clan didn't work to hard on him until he got to mohawk and dropped 6 plus seconds over prior miles
anyway if you guys are fine with it so be it, happy wagering
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: mwins on October 21, 2020, 09:37:38 AM
Top 6 WEG trainers currently, by wins.

Moreau
Auciello
Baillargeon
Steacy
Fellows
Blais

How many have class 1, 2, or 3 positives?
When were they?

Are these guys cheaters, or just smarter than Burgess, Kopas, and Bax etc.

Give some facts, not just opinion.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on October 21, 2020, 10:27:12 AM
Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?

Not everyone cheats but too many do. And there are some truly great horsemen out there who would do much better on an even playing field. It doesn't matter what business you're in...if theres money involved there will be cheating. Its a shame to lump the good ones in with the scum
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Manny on October 21, 2020, 10:33:52 AM
All three have had there day.

Burgess - is just weird.  Kopas - broke and never could train one  Bax - slippery as they come.  Used drugs more than people think.    Darling is simply ego is as annoying as you could get.

Just from our experiences staying in Ontario for a few summers.





What about Darling fuck face. Cheating too?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Manny on October 21, 2020, 02:31:22 PM
And wow.  I just looked at Cullens horses the past month.  Holy fuck Arm and Hammer. 
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 21, 2020, 03:20:00 PM
Yes much older and bragging about living in Scarberia tells me a lot. Any time or place and we can dance and forget your so called friends your the real bustout here and bullshit artist.

Geesus fuck. Yur 59 but look 79 and a few health issues. Fuck sakes. I can't believe who you are. A piece of advice. Stop playing tough guy and especially stop spewing bullshit about people you think you know. Never ends well for Internet tough guys that can't back up their words. I feel bad for what I said and I pity you. Take care sir.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: mwins on October 22, 2020, 09:20:36 AM
So far I don't see any facts. Just a lot of hate towards people that work harder or smarter than others. Looks like envy.

Losers go home and whine about shit, while the winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: vinnie on October 22, 2020, 09:57:47 AM
So far I don't see any facts. Just a lot of hate towards people that work harder or smarter than others. Looks like envy.

Losers go home and whine about shit, while the winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
the call of the cheater , they always work harder and people are just jealous .
 till they get caught and cant win anymore , and apparently dont work as hard anymore .
the only thing that people hate is their ability to get away with being a crook .
a true crook never has remorse.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: mwins on October 22, 2020, 10:10:03 AM
My point is, most posters here just seem to constantly hate on success.
I mean at least we know that a guy like Takter was once caught with syringes at Woodbine years ago. There is substance there.
I don't know Luc Blais or Cullen. Do they have a history? I mean something substantial. Class 1 or 2. Soda positive?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Brown jug on October 22, 2020, 10:31:48 AM
your right mwins, innocent until proven guilty, although it appears some on here have provided information that these folks were caught cheating elsewhere and asked to leave
regardless I was just raising suspicions over some of the past results and specifically of the Cullen barn as it was quite noticeable the sudden improvement on many horses
usually when things look to good to be true they are
but then I guess you always believed Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds  and  others who said they were not cheating but they were
everyone is giving their horses something to be competitive but some are pushing the envelope and crossing the line
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 22, 2020, 11:29:33 AM
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 lot of Tim. Some for and some against. And the version of tim that fought George Chuvalo wants to fight again.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 what a country!

Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 22, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
Never said fought Chuvallo, I've known George for years and I said I sparred with him at the Landsdowne Club which he fought out of and I did many times.

I cannot fuckin believe what I'm hearing. Oh yaaaa. I remember now. Yur the guy that knocked Poole out on the street. Tell me bullshitter since everyone in that area knew the story, what happened to a drunk Poole one night?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: STEW MCQUEEN on October 22, 2020, 01:49:43 PM
 11.wpSo when you are doing 70 in a 60 but don't et caught, are you breaking the law?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: the real doctor on October 22, 2020, 02:38:36 PM
I am waiting to hear how one of you scrapped with Baldy Chard next -
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 22, 2020, 04:28:57 PM
I am waiting to hear how one of you scrapped with Baldy Chard next -

My dad lost a few teeth courtesy of Chard at the Gerrard.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Calhoun on October 22, 2020, 04:32:05 PM
You have no idea who I am or who your dealing with. As fo. Go play tough guy somewhere else, here you'll get hurt.
Come on man.

You're over 80, fat and use a cane. 

You're not hurting anyone.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Brown jug on October 22, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
hmm , my threads original topic seems to have been hijacked
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Frank the Zipper on October 22, 2020, 05:00:47 PM
CULLEN GETS MY BETS.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: pylon on October 22, 2020, 05:05:53 PM
11.wpSo when you are doing 70 in a 60 but don't et caught, are you breaking the law?

when someone drags a horse around the track with a rope and chain and authorities when told,do nothing....is that a crime?
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Artsplace on October 22, 2020, 05:59:25 PM
Jug it always happens when Calhoun and the other resident idiot Artsplace jump in.

I don't think I have any more reason to jump in. I think everyone pretty well knows that you are the king of bullshit stories on here.
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: vinnie on October 22, 2020, 06:53:10 PM
CULLEN GETS MY BETS.
thing is , these types are bad for the betting .
cause you cant bet them and you cant bet against them.
their form is so up and down . if you leave against them , they hang you.
if you follow them chances are they stop in your face.
to a crook every things legal as long as you don't get caught .
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: Manny on October 23, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
Settle fellas.  Me thinks you are Canadian boys, eh.  Well this Yank is looking at the Woodbine program for tonight and feel free to pass on some winners, Iceman, Artsplace, etc. 
Title: Re: the cullen clan
Post by: AsPromised on October 23, 2020, 03:27:03 PM
Settle fellas.  Me thinks you are Canadian boys, eh.  Well this Yank is looking at the Woodbine program for tonight and feel free to pass on some winners, Iceman, Artsplace, etc.

Cullen gang have quite a few going tonight.
Which ones figure to be lit 🔥 up tonight!

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