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Title: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: swoodall on August 16, 2020, 09:08:20 PM
What happened to all of the Roberts' horses? 11.wp

Everyone of them is scratched! :1

Plus Smolin better be sick! 74zac.1

Why?

He had 11 scheduled drives and is missing. That's $275 for doing nothing out the door. angbk
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 16, 2020, 11:11:49 PM
I see another hi 5 hit on Friday for a single ticket with chalk on top. The hi 5 at Hawthorne can never get going to a big pot as that thing gets hit frequently. What are the odds with 15 live days of the meet left it makes it to a carryover on the last day with at least some excitement?
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on August 16, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
Reds hit hard times maybe transporting  problems  well as for smolin probably sore after fall getting drug behind the horse on the track friday night legs usually dont bend that way but who knows maybe hes drinking  a beer a playin poker
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: racing123 on August 17, 2020, 12:59:11 PM
charts say all Red's horses scratched "Quarantine" - whatever that means?  Maybe one of the steeds in his barn is sick with a very transmittable virus..
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on August 17, 2020, 01:15:29 PM
your right Swooie, where is ROLLIN SMOLIN. You wanna see him get his act together but he just don't care unless his is under the weather.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: SportsmansP5/8 on August 17, 2020, 01:36:58 PM
Bobby 11 drives???? Well i wonder if this money does flow into the track in a few years whos gonna be left eating in this colony
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: swoodall on August 17, 2020, 02:22:31 PM
Reds hit hard times maybe transporting  problems  well as for smolin probably sore after fall getting drug behind the horse on the track friday night legs usually dont bend that way but who knows maybe hes drinking  a beer a playin poker


I was out of town moving my kid back to Iowa State.

Somebody told me after I started the thread that Smolin got dumped so he may need some healing.

And why would the state vet force Red to quarantine his horses if he didn't have an EHV-1 positive?

Would they do the same for annual tests like Coggins if there wasn't one up to date?
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: cigar on August 17, 2020, 06:34:02 PM

I was out of town moving my kid back to Iowa State.

Somebody told me after I started the thread that Smolin got dumped so he may need some healing.

And why would the state vet force Red to quarantine his horses if he didn't have an EHV-1 positive?

Would they do the same for annual tests like Coggins if there wasn't one up to date?
The milk man must be floating the kids college bill, because everyone knows you didn’t do it ngc3
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 17, 2020, 08:09:11 PM
15 days left of the meet then harness horsemen will be left wondering what will happen in 2021 with a spring summer meet. Does Arlington race, does Hawthorne pick up the Arlington dates to keep thoroughbreds from leaving down, does harness get a winter/fall but thoroughbreds are to have the winter meet to start. What happens with 2 and 3 yr old stake racing. Lots of questions and can guarantee IHHA leaders have no answer. Speaking of why did Marty Engel give up his IHHA president status. Did Tony get another yearly bonus?
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: cigar on August 17, 2020, 08:22:31 PM
Horses first, it’s the same schedule every other year. Ihha is what it is! Every year everybody says the same shit and the next year everybody comes back. I know you dislike Illinois racing, but some of us like it so if we race 1 day or 365 days it don’t matter if they race they will show up. If it gets better great, if it stays the same ok if it gets worse than some will have to make a choice just like anything else in life.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: swoodall on August 17, 2020, 09:07:40 PM
Horses first, it’s the same schedule every other year. Ihha is what it is! Every year everybody says the same shit and the next year everybody comes back. I know you dislike Illinois racing, but some of us like it so if we race 1 day or 365 days it don’t matter if they race they will show up. If it gets better great, if it stays the same ok if it gets worse than some will have to make a choice just like anything else in life.


How bad is Illinois racing? 91zxa.1

It's so fucking bad that Cigar can beard his way to a UDRS over .300! 77z.chf 91.jzail

It took Cigar a very long time to prove that he is willing to take the fall and stay silent if his "silent partners" get caught. 91.jzail 62za.clp
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: harnessplop on August 17, 2020, 09:12:04 PM
Love hawthorne
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: cigar on August 17, 2020, 10:07:52 PM

How bad is Illinois racing? 91zxa.1

It's so fucking bad that Cigar can beard his way to a UDRS over .300! 77z.chf 91.jzail

It took Cigar a very long time to prove that he is willing to take the fall and stay silent if his "silent partners" get caught. 91.jzail 62za.clp
Yea all 128 starts long time  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Nothing silent Steve the bitch! Don’t be jealous but it’s just me there.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 17, 2020, 10:31:00 PM
Cigar the ones that could leave...left. What u have are the ones that were the little fish scraping and actually may like it that way? No issue there. Slots come attracts more people more horses means the possibility of no checks for the ones who gutted it out. My point is knowing the schedule and dates to come Arlington leaves Careys only have one option save the thoroughbreds from leaving. If your a owner of a 2 and 3 yr old IL bred you know have a problem. Right?
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: cigar on August 17, 2020, 10:34:25 PM
Cigar the ones that could leave...left. What u have are the ones that were the little fish scraping and actually may like it that way? No issue there. Slots come attracts more people more horses means the possibility of no checks for the ones who gutted it out. My point is knowing the schedule and dates to come Arlington leaves Careys only have one option save the thoroughbreds from leaving. If your a owner of a 2 and 3 yr old IL bred you know have a problem. Right?
Not really, no one knows what’s gonna happen just guessing on everything. You May or may not have a problem it’s a gamble.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 17, 2020, 10:37:31 PM
I dislike the ones on top of the IHHA boards. I like the Careys better then the Johnston's. Take your pick on Doc or Robin
 sounds like she plays favoritism as much as he did. Hawthorne only track I've hit two hi-5 so have a fond time betting when I take a shot. Still friends that race there so I root for them but the dislike comes from years of trusting the ones who control horsemen fate.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: cigar on August 17, 2020, 10:46:23 PM
I dislike the ones on top of the IHHA boards. I like the Careys better then the Johnston's. Take your pick on Doc or Robin
 sounds like she plays favoritism as much as he did. Hawthorne only track I've hit two hi-5 so have a fond time betting when I take a shot. Still friends that race there so I root for them but the dislike comes from years of trusting the ones who control horsemen fate.
Hawthorne is probably one of the better tracks to bet aside from the big m.
Robin is ok she does what she can with what she has can’t blame her for much it is what it is. Those Hawthorne horses are some of the toughest horses in racing they might not show racing for much but they do really well at other places at higher tags.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on August 18, 2020, 09:57:05 AM
LAST MAN STANDING, Fucking CIGAR.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: swoodall on August 18, 2020, 04:18:40 PM
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch is that all you can do. Hawthorne has something that at least resembles racing while Churchill is waiting to sell the Arlington land for a box store. Try thinking your glass is half full and see if things get better. And while your at it give Smolin a one way bus ticket out of Chitown.


You have no fucking clue what you are talking about! angbk

This butt fucking started in 1995 and has screwed the horsemen out of over $100 million dollars! :1

So take your half full glass and drown yourself in it! 11.dt
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 18, 2020, 05:31:04 PM
But the horsemen were weak the first couple years Edgar gave permission to the AG dept to pay recapture out of the general fund and they did. However when the IHHA backed Ryan opponent for Gov a dem forget the name and Ryan won word got back who the horsemen backed and that was the final time recapture went through the general fund. If the horse industry had any clout they could have fought for the 10mln a year the tracks were getting from the purse accounts. The major flaw of recapture was keeping the 1994 TOTAL handle a permanent fixture on that handle as simulcast entered the picture. Horsemen have never had a bargaining chip for one reason all the infighting between thoroughbred and harness.
Title: Re: Hawthorne: If You Care?
Post by: horses first on August 18, 2020, 06:23:38 PM
So Reds are the horses with strangles. Hoosier said No to horses from Hoosier has Hawthorne said anything yet? If that breaks out at Hawthorne that cancels the balance of the meet?
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