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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Casualfan1 on June 21, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
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What’s the story with all the Down Under horses he has accumulated and I understand he is a great guy and good horseman but never seen him have this many horses racing this well. Who owns these pieces?
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Big Red is a class act,,,and a very good horseman,,while getting up in years surprising he is looking to work that hard
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Definitely fromting for Australian operation
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You could be correct
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Actually it's New Zealand He has an arrangement with the leading bloodstock agent there John Curtin to bring over race and sell as much as he can. DRF had an article about it a few months ago. Weirdly Curtin was one of the few people in NZ to get Covid. He didn't have a bad time of it though.
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Kelvin is a class act. I've done business with him. They have a new business model that makes great sense. They bring over a wide variety of horses. They take away the unknown of how they fit here in the states. You see them race here. Then work our deal. They are looking to sell horses. They are not looking at a quick one time sell. The cost to ship them here is $16,000. Where the money is made is on the exchange rate. It's .65 as of this morning. So if you spend say $50,000 on a horse, that translates to $82,500 NZ dollars.
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Good guy...had beers with him years ago..no nonsense..I believe he played rugby when he was young..big eagles can.. daughter use to be smoking hot..him and Bobby Blum has some of the biggest hands I have ever seen.. wouldn't want to tangle with either one. Even at their age.
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Thanks for answering my question. I actually talked to someone today who has been in the harness business for years and he told me that Kelvin Harrison would be the most liked and respected trainer by other trainers and owners in the game. Said he is a great horseman and now that they have caught a few of the chemist and the others may be a lil nervous right now a guy like Harrison will do well.
He told me he was having beers with him one night and Red was drinking scotch but two guys were picking on a guy much smaller than them and they followed him outside, so to make it short Harrison picked up one guy and threw him in a dumpster and the other guy took off lol. Said in reality he’s a big teddy bear that’s honest and straight shooter. Told me his first job in the US was for Gurfein. Anyway thanks again.
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My pal [male] said he was with Harrison one night and Kelvin tried to pick him???
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This may get be the first topic where everyone agreed a trainer is a good guy and a horsemen.
Wow 😯
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All these posts prove just how uninformed you are.
DETAILS, OR HE'S JUST A GOOD GUY.
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Colin there’s a blast from the past
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THE OWNER OF SEVERAL HORSES WITH KELVIN HARRISON IS JOHN CURTIN. JOHN CURTIN IS A PROFESSIONAL---STRAIGHTFORWARD BUSINESS MAN FROM NEW ZEALAND. HE IS HIGHLY RESPECTED WORLD WIDE AS A BLOODSTOCK AGENT AS WELL AS OWNING HARNESSLINK. THESE HORSES ARE FOR SALE AND JOHN PLACED THEM WITH KELVIN TO CONDITION PROPERLY FOR SALE.
THESE HORSES HAVE RACED VERY WELL AS I HAVE WATCHED MANY. KELVIN HAS DOWN A GREAT JOB. JOHN IS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER AND I NOW MUST BELEIVE IN KELVIN AS I TRUST JOHN'S JUDGEMENT.
I HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH JOHNS COMPANY FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND HE HAS TRULY HAS COMPLETED EVERY TRANSACTION AS AN HONEST AND ETHICAL BUSINESSMAN. I WOULD RECOMMEND JOHN AND HIS FIRM.
WE HAVE COMPLETED IN EXCESS OF $100 MILLION DOLLARS IN TRANSACTIONS OVER THE 40+ YEARS . THEREFORE, I CAN AND WILL STATE THAT JOHN CURTIN IS A MAN OF CLASS AND VALUE WHO CAN IN FACT BE TRUSTED.
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Agents, MAJOR breeding farms as well as industry leaders are all in bed with trainers with scrupulous pasts. Didn't you learn anything when writing in capital letters for the past 3 months about the 29 indicted. Most were trainers for "reputable" owners/businessmen like Curtin.
"Like" Curtin....wtf is this?
Now he's a cheat too?
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Read it again shit for brains. I was responding to a post that stated that a trainer must be honest if he is training for a honest owner. Try and keep up douche bag.
"Reputable" in quotations is shakey. And so are your posts. I don't recall tossing around any names your way, but if thats how you wanna roll around here, stay tuned. tmbz1
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You're out of line going after Curtin. He's not just some owner He's brought hundreds of down unders to NA for years and years. He was the manager of Auckland Reactor in 2011 and brought him to the USA with KELVIN HARRISON.
This story is old too .. Here is the article I mentioned that was published months ago detailing this whole operation
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-harrison-offer-ready-race-down-under-imports
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you questioned his "repubility" therefore his reputation. He's not like the others of which there ARE many.
IMO Using his name with them in the same sentence is out of line.
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MY FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE WITH JOHN CURTIN IS ABSOLUTELY HONORABLE AND ETHICAL. AS I STATED, I HAVE COMPLETED IN EXCESS OF $100 MILLION DOLLARS OF BUSINESS WITH MR. CURTIN AND EACH AND EVERY TRANSACTION HAS BEEN AS INTENDED. HE IS A MAN OF HIS WORD. EACH OF THESE TRANSACTIONS WERE LEGAL BINDING CONTRACTS IN BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS WORLDWIDE.
THEREFORE, I CAN TRUTHFULLY STATE THAT HE IS A MAN OF HIGHEST ETHICS FROM MY FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE WITH HIM!
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I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. AN INTELIGENT MAN KNOWS AND RECANTS WHEN IT IS BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT HE MISSPOKE REGARDING AN ISSUE. YOU ARE 100% CORRECT IN THIS CASE AND I APOLOGIZE.
I AM NOT USED TO DEALING WITH THIS TYPE OF ISSUE AS MY INDUSTRY IS BUILT ON TRUST AND REPUTATION. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH A DIFFERENT ANIMAL HERE--LITERALLY.
I WILL ATTEMPT TO SPEAK PROPERLY MOVING FORWARD.
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I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. AN INTELIGENT MAN KNOWS AND RECANTS WHEN IT IS BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT HE MISSPOKE REGARDING AN ISSUE. YOU ARE 100% CORRECT IN THIS CASE AND I APOLOGIZE.
I AM NOT USED TO DEALING WITH THIS TYPE OF ISSUE AS MY INDUSTRY IS BUILT ON TRUST AND REPUTATION. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH A DIFFERENT ANIMAL HERE--LITERALLY.
I WILL ATTEMPT TO SPEAK PROPERLY MOVING FORWARD.
Inteligent?
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I reached out to John as I googled his company and he replied to me right away. My nephew is looking for a horse and he and his family live in Toronto and he gave me a name and contact to call in Ontario who is helping promote and sell his horses. I was sent a list of 22 horses and they are already racing here in the US and in Canada.
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Id stay away being in the biz get someone you can trust even friends can screw u over in the end plus id wait slittle longer!!!!
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Yeah everyone Red has are for sale and have a negotiable number assigned . Tough buying these horses there systems seem more fragile than US sired or born and bred here horses .
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Very true,,,, no running and gunning with these,,,,plus they are somewhat overpriced ,,,IMO