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Title: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 30, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
What is with all the recent TCO2 positives coming up the last little while ? Are they using new testing or are trainers getting sloppy? McGuire, Nixon, Paulic, Jamieson, McCabe all got pinched recently. 
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: mwins on December 30, 2019, 10:55:35 AM
Copley as well.
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: pylon on December 30, 2019, 11:35:40 AM
the fines are higher....will it make a difference, not sure
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Parked on December 30, 2019, 12:09:03 PM
I don't think it's a matter of being sloppy but they could be pushing the envelope a little. What I would like to know and I suspect is that AGCO has a problem. This has happened before where months have gone by and no TC02 positives and then there's a rash of them. IMO AGCO is a total waste of taxpayers money where they have no money for testing and OOC testing yet they never miss a symposium on drug testing at a warmer climate hotel with all expenses paid.

they back on in the testing and the trainers get to pushing a little and then they test again... Positives.....
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Jazzman on December 30, 2019, 06:31:40 PM
all will get beard trainers and carry on as usual
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Stan durbread on December 30, 2019, 07:02:09 PM
Beards already in place Jamieson is now former employee Paul Cameron
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Fatboy on December 30, 2019, 08:48:42 PM
Beards already in place Jamieson is now former employee Paul Cameron

HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO PAUL?
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Stan durbread on December 30, 2019, 11:34:38 PM
For the next two months then back to Stephanie
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on December 31, 2019, 01:54:28 AM
yeah it's a joke why even have testing when nothing changes. Get a positive--beard. Wait out suspension while doing exact same drugging then back to original paper trainer. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Stan durbread on December 31, 2019, 07:41:48 AM
You will always see more TC02 positives in early winter!! Horses drink lees causing mild dehydration which slows the animals processing of certain things. Dehydration WILL NOT cause TC02 to rise it only slows down the lowering of it after bicarbonate administration!!!!
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Fatboy on December 31, 2019, 07:57:41 AM
You will always see more TC02 positives in early winter!! Horses drink lees causing mild dehydration which slows the animals processing of certain things. Dehydration WILL NOT cause TC02 to rise it only slows down the lowering of it after bicarbonate administration!!!!

YOU WOULD BE CORRECT tmbz1
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Stan durbread on December 31, 2019, 08:22:47 AM
Iceman add to that : appeal as long as you want to , but if you lose it drop appeal all horses raced from date of ruling to final appeal disqualified. Watch how much faster the appeal process goes
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Jazzman on December 31, 2019, 01:52:04 PM
i agree with revamping the appeal process how about being allowed to race but purse earnings held in trust if u win appeal u get paid if u loose money gets redistrubted
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: the master on January 01, 2020, 08:37:30 AM
The cheats and their attorneys would flip out but how great would that be?
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Backside bandit on January 01, 2020, 11:33:46 AM
From my experience as a son of a vet. Certain things get tested at certain times. I believe they test for certain things that are trending.
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Backside bandit on January 01, 2020, 11:36:42 AM
I think if a trainer gets a positive they should have strict consequences to prevent them or others from getting a positive. Ex. Get a positive and lose your license permanently, can't transfer a horse period. Thoughts?
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Calhoun on January 01, 2020, 03:20:02 PM
^^  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3  ^^
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Calhoun on January 01, 2020, 04:37:05 PM
Daycare must be out.
Go Fuck Yourself.

You ancient, lying cock sucker.
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: cr dawg on January 03, 2020, 09:11:13 AM
The majority of all those TCO2's were all from the B Track's. Mohawk is a joke!
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: Jazzman on January 03, 2020, 02:40:23 PM
conviction rate on B tracks much easier A trainers have enough backing to lawyer up and get off
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: cr dawg on January 04, 2020, 12:06:30 PM
When they let trainers have 2 horses entered per race, did they not know what would happen??? ngc3
Title: Re: TCO2 Positives
Post by: cr dawg on January 04, 2020, 12:07:12 PM
Lawyers....lol
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