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Title: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Equus Caballus on September 24, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
Meadowlands Statement On Live Racing In 2020

With the major yearling sales coming up, we felt it necessary to have those with an interest in harness racing be made aware of a few recent developments involving The Meadowlands for 2020 listed below.

On Wednesday, September 18 at a meeting of the New Jersey Racing Commission, a request by The Meadowlands to eliminate Lasix for 2-year-old Standardbreds racing in New Jersey for 2020 and 2021 and for the 2021 Meadowlands Pace was rejected.

This request was opposed unanimously by the Board of Directors of the Standardbred Breeders & Owners Association of New Jersey and by some practicing veterinarians.
It is our intention to re-submit this request within the next six to eight months once we have a better understanding of how the public is going to react to the negative press that the thoroughbred industry has recently received.

In addition, we have been officially notified by the Monmouth Park Thoroughbreds that they intend to exercise their option to convert the surface of the racetrack and race on the Meadowlands main track from October 2 through December 5 next fall. 

While it is still possible that they will reconsider based on the costs, we must assume that there will be no live harness meet next fall at the Meadowlands. Should that occur, The Meadowlands would extend the 2020 live meet beyond Hambletonian Day, racing until mid-September.

 

Regarding a few of the important stakes that have historically been raced during the fall meet, our intention would be to race the Kindergarten Classic Finals and TVG Finals right after the Little Brown Jug and prior to the beginning of the Lexington meet. It is as of now unclear what will be done with the Fall Freshman Final Four stakes which have annually taken place at the end of November.

In any case, we thought it important that everyone be aware of these developments so you may plan accordingly.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 04:12:39 PM
This is great news

Meadowlands thoroughbred is a superior product .... handles much more than Gural ever could

it’s great to see Monmouth using their option
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Calhoun on September 24, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Night runners back at the Big M.

 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 04:28:45 PM
Night runners back at the Big M.

 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1

absolutely

the friday night cards from yesteryear were tremendous
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Fatboy on September 24, 2019, 04:34:47 PM
WORKS FOR GURAL
TB MONEY IN THE SPORTS BOOK LOUNGE?
OH YEAH.....
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 04:38:55 PM
WORKS FOR GURAL
TB MONEY IN THE SPORTS BOOK LOUNGE?
OH YEAH.....

good for everyone

Gural would struggle to handle $2 mil

Monmouth @ Meadowlands night signal easily doubles that if not tripling it
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: NJ The best on September 24, 2019, 04:40:56 PM
yes especially that time of the year , no other good products at night .  Easily will handle 6 mil a night.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Fatboy on September 24, 2019, 04:46:00 PM
good for everyone

Gural would struggle to handle $2 mil

Monmouth @ Meadowlands night signal easily doubles that if not tripling it

I LIKE THE IDEA...FOLKS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF RACING ANYWAYS...PLUS THE USUAL SUSPECTS GET GREAT ACTION ALL WINTER. 
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: augustaandy on September 24, 2019, 05:17:04 PM
a win for everyone, and it doesn't negatively affect yearling prices as no races will be eliminated
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 06:20:12 PM
Monmouth has some of that William Hill money to invest

spending whatever they are to convert dirt surface for tbred a is very wise

Gural will be happy to lease those dates ... he never really wanted harness racing any

NJ will undoubtedly approve of this

i would say fall harness more than in jeopardy

too bad they can’t take this years fall dates 
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Superfecta on September 24, 2019, 06:30:44 PM
This sounds great. I stopped watching and wagering there anyway.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Fatboy on September 24, 2019, 06:30:59 PM
Monmouth has some of that William Hill money to invest

spending whatever they are to convert dirt surface for tbred a is very wise

Gural will be happy to lease those dates ... he never really wanted harness racing any

NJ will undoubtedly approve of this

i would say fall harness more than in jeopardy

too bad they can’t take this years fall dates

I WORKED A TB MEET WITH A.J. FOYT III AND CO....SURFACE WAS CONCRETE.  LITTLE PREP WAS DONE.  AFTER THE MEET ALL STOCK HAD BAD FEET, AND THIS WAS WITH PADS TBS DONT USUALLY WEAR.  ASK AROUND ABOUT TRACK SURFACE BEFORE DECIDING ON ANYTHING WOULD BE MY ADVICE.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 06:38:17 PM
I WORKED A TB MEET WITH A.J. FOYT III AND CO....SURFACE WAS CONCRETE.  LITTLE PREP WAS DONE.  AFTER THE MEET ALL STOCK HAD BAD FEET, AND THIS WAS WITH PADS TBS DONT USUALLY WEAR.  ASK AROUND ABOUT TRACK SURFACE BEFORE DECIDING ON ANYTHING WOULD BE MY ADVICE.

Agree

have heard same

look at Hawthorne perfect example

not too many tracks remain that do the  switch

Cal Expo does allow Sacramento fair to run a few fall dates

don’t think there any others left

Cal Expo
Hawthorne
Big M
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on September 24, 2019, 06:53:40 PM
T breds at The Meadowlands are a much much better gambling product,I pray it happens
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 06:59:45 PM
T breds at The Meadowlands are a much much better gambling product,I pray it happens

It’s a done deal
 
it would cost Gural to run

he can not run and collect lease payment
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Fatboy on September 24, 2019, 07:10:53 PM
It’s a done deal
 
it would cost Gural to run

he can not run and collect lease payment

richest sports book in america can afford it tmbz1
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: hoosierboy on September 24, 2019, 07:18:38 PM
Gural probably knows that Tbreds are gonna take in more money than standard Breds so he is all for tbreds more money for him. 
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 24, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
look for this trend to continue

don’t be shocked if Monmouth eventually asks for winter dates
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: spaheaven on September 24, 2019, 07:58:55 PM
Night runners back at the Big M.

 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1

Isnt that what they call they call the coons running from the police at 3 am?  Night runners?
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Calhoun on September 24, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
Isnt that what they call they call the coons running from the police at 3 am?  Night runners?
My Bitch.

Welcome back.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Jctoronto on September 24, 2019, 11:43:53 PM
Monmouth at meadowlands fall 2020

Just confirming:
night racing the entire fall meet right?

Turf and now
dirt too (deep slop too..prices, just like to bet it)

Im in.
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: NJ The best on September 25, 2019, 06:17:15 AM
Good news for the track itself as well more hours to work for the part timers money for Christmas shopping
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 25, 2019, 07:48:50 AM
Gural probably knows that Tbreds are gonna take in more money than standard Breds so he is all for tbreds more money for him.

he has absolutely nothing to do with what Monmouth @M1 handles

he collects a lease payment only

he does not get any piece of Monmouth handle
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: oh canada on September 25, 2019, 03:22:55 PM
Jeff always comes out smelling like a rose !!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: MR BRIONI on September 25, 2019, 08:09:13 PM
Meadowlands Statement On Live Racing In 2020

With the major yearling sales coming up, we felt it necessary to have those with an interest in harness racing be made aware of a few recent developments involving The Meadowlands for 2020 listed below.

On Wednesday, September 18 at a meeting of the New Jersey Racing Commission, a request by The Meadowlands to eliminate Lasix for 2-year-old Standardbreds racing in New Jersey for 2020 and 2021 and for the 2021 Meadowlands Pace was rejected.

This request was opposed unanimously by the Board of Directors of the Standardbred Breeders & Owners Association of New Jersey and by some practicing veterinarians.
It is our intention to re-submit this request within the next six to eight months once we have a better understanding of how the public is going to react to the negative press that the thoroughbred industry has recently received.

In addition, we have been officially notified by the Monmouth Park Thoroughbreds that they intend to exercise their option to convert the surface of the racetrack and race on the Meadowlands main track from October 2 through December 5 next fall. 

While it is still possible that they will reconsider based on the costs, we must assume that there will be no live harness meet next fall at the Meadowlands. Should that occur, The Meadowlands would extend the 2020 live meet beyond Hambletonian Day, racing until mid-September.

 

Regarding a few of the important stakes that have historically been raced during the fall meet, our intention would be to race the Kindergarten Classic Finals and TVG Finals right after the Little Brown Jug and prior to the beginning of the Lexington meet. It is as of now unclear what will be done with the Fall Freshman Final Four stakes which have annually taken place at the end of November.

In any case, we thought it important that everyone be aware of these developments so you may plan accordingly.
THEY INTEND TO EXERCISE THEIR OPTION TO RACE NEXT FALL, GOV CHRISTIE
DECIDED THE STATE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE HORSE BUSINESS AND MONMOUTH
AND MEADOWLANDS BECAME PRIVATIZED, WHO GAVE THEM THE OPTION TO
RACE AT MEADOWLANDS AND WHY??
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: Papillon on September 25, 2019, 09:11:17 PM
THEY INTEND TO EXERCISE THEIR OPTION TO RACE NEXT FALL, GOV CHRISTIE
DECIDED THE STATE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE HORSE BUSINESS AND MONMOUTH
AND MEADOWLANDS BECAME PRIVATIZED, WHO GAVE THEM THE OPTION TO
RACE AT MEADOWLANDS AND WHY??

Good questions

The Monmouth horsemen and Gural have some type of contract ... obviously the lease has a clause

they have been running turf only afternoon cards every October for years so there has always been some type of agreement
Title: Re: Meadowlands 2020 Fall Meet In Jeapordy
Post by: harnessplop on September 26, 2019, 02:39:10 AM
6 million at night...no fkin way
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