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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: perrymason on July 18, 2019, 07:42:58 PM
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Coming out of NJ will see in the next week
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Of more interest is what owners stuck. Still no entries for Dowse..
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Rob and Don Harmon were crooks when they were young here in Michigan.They fixed thousands,yes thousands of races with the Buter's,Seabright,and Al Mugsy
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ken jacobs said thank you bought him a new truck.
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Nice 👍
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Bluechip should be boycotted for supporting marks.
Marks will still get his pockets lined from Gillis an Bongiorno. He lined them up
With owners an sauces them up for a percentage.
100%. They are supposed to be pioneers for integrity and they endorse biggest crook in the game. Same goes for Crawford farms with bongiorno... Bunch of hypocrites!!!!
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Chris Height is coming up
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100%. They are supposed to be pioneers for integrity and they endorse biggest crook in the game. Same goes for Crawford farms with bongiorno... Bunch of hypocrites!!!!
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They will always find one, they don't have to look far. It will be interesting to see where Dowse's (Marks) horses wind up this week and how well they do being watched by eveyrone.
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please why dont everyone death root good ole boy Ray this weekend. hope his shit gets parked at the adios all day long.
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They will always find one, they don't have to look far. It will be interesting to see where Dowse's (Marks) horses wind up this week and how well they do being watched by eveyrone.
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100%. They are supposed to be pioneers for integrity and they endorse biggest crook in the game. Same goes for Crawford farms with bongiorno... Bunch of hypocrites!!!!
Yes Crawford's also use Oakes whose horses always look like champions at tracks with no real detention barn.
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njbest, ya lets want bad things to happen to the guy who stands up says enough. How can you try to exonerate Josh, he got caught by security on the backside, that was technically trespassing. Josh knows what he's doing is wrong, all he had to do was keep his mouth shut. He is a moron, might be a great guy to some, but he is just plain stupid, and you can't fix stupid. I am sure he will get a new beard and the next one will end up like the last ones have. This is the problem with our business, stick up for the cheats and trash the people who call them out.
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Mike Napoli is the new beard
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why cant we get rid of the owners who support these scums instead of chasing after ghost trainers
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why cant we get rid of the owners who support these scums instead of chasing after ghost trainers
Now you've hit the nail on the head. If an owner knowingly uses a banned trainer, through deceptive channels, for the purpose of making an illegitimate profit - that is Fraud.
It may take something like a joint class action lawsuit for fraud, seeking monetary compensation for lost income, brought by some coalition of bettors and or trainers/owners, against these owners that profit from said fraud, to really shock this broken system.
As with most things harness, the current policing infrastructure is inadequate to handle the problem, and the solution may lie in the state courts.
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Bluechip should be boycotted for supporting marks.
Marks will still get his pockets lined from Gillis an Bongiorno. He lined them up
With owners an sauces them up for a percentage.
I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT HORSEMAN WILL BOYCOTT BOTH BLUECHIP
AND CRAWFORD AT THE YEARLING SALES THIS FALL.
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That is not as far fetched as it sounds. All you would need is a few big time buyers to announce in unison that they were boycotting the consignment of breeders using beards. I would bet others would follow which could put a dent in their sales.
burke doestn care
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I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT HORSEMAN WILL BOYCOTT BOTH BLUECHIP
AND CRAWFORD AT THE YEARLING SALES THIS FALL.
They both push all their horses and bid in most of them..
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i dont think burke is any good for our sport
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The real problem is: harness racing is so irrelevant to most if not all state governments, they will not invest much if anything into policing it. In NY, the so so not commited the owner must pay $19.00 to enter a horse. This is to offset the cost of testing and policing that the mutual tax once paid.
So, since it produces no revenue for the state, it has no political power. In short, nobody cares. The game is wide open.
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The real problem is: harness racing is so irrelevant to most if not all state governments, they will not invest much if anything into policing it. In NY, the so so not commited the owner must pay $19.00 to enter a horse. This is to offset the cost of testing and policing that the mutual tax once paid.
So, since it produces no revenue for the state, it has no political power. In short, nobody cares. The game is wide open.
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The cost is $19.90 and I'm convienced they only test for bute. If that.
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I think some commissions dump a lot of it down the drain. I agree, owners need to be held accountable for using banned trainers. It's not like they don't know what's going on.
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Your polly right, Parked. I remember about 10 years ago when they initially added a $10.00 stater fee. It was in reaction to Cornell University refusing to do any testing because the state was behind in their bill. After it was all settled, the Lab admitted they had not done one test for many months.
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burke doestn care
bad owners ruined the sport
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5th race at meadows j king trainer jeff mounds lyon owner was this a former dowse horse
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Even the dudes from jolly ol' England hire the outlaws.
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Even the dudes from jolly ol' England hire the outlaws.
And his other trainer is Chris Oakes ,,,must be a square shooter
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However small Marks's speed dial list, you can bet Taylor is on it.
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Jim King was only suspended for 15 years for race fixing so he’s undoubtedly a good character, perfect fit
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ERV BEEN KINDA QUIET SINCE HIS "OVERAGE" IN THE KY FUTURITY
RISE FROM THE DEAD LIKE DRACULA
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King and Scotty D getting lots of new horses !! See the connection?
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And his other trainer is Chris Oakes ,,,must be a square shooter
What?
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100% Fact. Josh has recruited Erv to be the next Beard!
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Who's next on Josh's list? Ray Schnittker? tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
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Well said
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Tetrick
Hope this ain’t true
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Tetrick seems to be the common thread, wonder what Ray will think. He drove for Ray a lot in the past.
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Jim King was only suspended for 15 years for race fixing so he’s undoubtedly a good character, perfect fit
please provide link
he was caught holding a horse named Nancy’s Best Bet at freehold in1984 but he fought it and got off after much legal work
he also was known to cash tickets on races Lauxmont Checkers competed in way back .... but i don’t recall 15 years
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I don't know if he was suspended but he did not drive from 86 to 96. You can look it up on USTA Pathway.
double secret bandedment
NJ Best knows all these stories
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I don't know if he was suspended but he did not drive from 86 to 96. You can look it up on USTA Pathway.
He had no license ,,,did you think he was on vacation,,,,he actually was selling knives at swap meets no joke
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He had no license ,,,did you think he was on vacation,,,,he actually was selling knives at swap meets no joke
How times change
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Actually jims both brothers mark and Wayne were better drivers
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Lol lol no offense to wayne but jim was oone of the top drivers with top barn in the 80s . Had a big time stable at big m and one of the top drivers at freehold when freehold wzs big time. He was a top top top tier driver. Stop the madness . Wayne was a second tier driver and thats fine. Jim was a star in his time as a driver
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Thanks for the update ................. .... Jim
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Lol lol no offense to wayne but jim was oone of the top drivers with top barn in the 80s . Had a big time stable at big m and one of the top drivers at freehold when freehold wzs big time. He was a top top top tier driver. Stop the madness . Wayne was a second tier driver and thats fine. Jim was a star in his time as a driver
Jim was a bust out b4 he married Elmer looneys daughter Joann ,,',that's a fact
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Abosouletly not true. Were together way before they were married. But anyway what does that have to do with wayne and mark being better drivers? Not a damm thing.
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Mark had the best hands by far,,,god rest his soul
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I dont have stats but i would say jim had at least 10 times more wins r
Than mark and wayne combined. So i dont know what ur saying. He used more lotion on them. Jimmy was top driver on broadway. Mark played high school plays
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bottom line thrown out for 15 years went to sell hunting knives with joann.