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Title: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: whiptherabbit on March 02, 2019, 06:50:42 AM
I wonder who will get the blame for this one????  tmbz1
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Barnet Garnsdale on March 02, 2019, 07:21:59 AM
 HOPEFULLY ALL HORSES AND OWNERS THAT USE MENARY AS A TRAINER ARE NOW BANDED FROM RACING AT MOHAWK IN STEAKS RACES
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: In front on March 02, 2019, 07:47:46 AM
You got it Barnet, I hope he gets banded for life
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 02, 2019, 11:27:35 AM
I’ve heard nothing yet
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Brown jug on March 02, 2019, 01:41:33 PM
please note
 it is stake( not steaks) races
and you hope he gets banned( not banded)

anyway let's wait for official word
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: swoodall on March 02, 2019, 02:45:29 PM
Menary is already on a generous 3 year probation deal for a Cobalt positive 5x the limit!

Is this Cobalt positive a new addition to his other one?

Would explain why he has been on fire the last 2 months. 77z.chf 91.jzail 
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 02, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Which horse was it?????
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: pylon on March 02, 2019, 05:41:39 PM
Which horse was it?????
Deetzy, from a race on Feb16, the horse is on the judges list, ineligible for 45 days...………..Menary probably has a call in for his go to beard, Gaetan Herbert
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: 791Gordy on March 02, 2019, 08:07:49 PM
You got it Barnet, I hope he gets banded for life

We will see how much integrity is in their new integrity rule.  This lump of cum really needs a lifetime ban.
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Pacers69 on March 02, 2019, 09:00:36 PM
Special Cobalt is being found in blood now uh oh
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: wiggles44 on March 02, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
groom pissed cobalt in the stall
too lazy to use a fucking washroom
 :1
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Pacers69 on March 02, 2019, 10:12:35 PM
groom pissed cobalt in the stall
too lazy to use a fucking washroom
 :1

😂😂 David will try that one too
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: swoodall on March 03, 2019, 12:58:22 AM
We will see how much integrity is in their new integrity rule.  This lump of cum really needs a lifetime ban.


Menary has to get a 10 year ban now!

Otherwise no one will ever fear being on probation.

Of course  11.bz  probation was bullshit to begin with.  11.dt
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: slimshady on March 03, 2019, 08:44:56 AM
I'm betting 6 months to a year.
Will be interesting to see where Sintra ends up.
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: dukeman on March 03, 2019, 09:50:45 AM
POOR DEETZY , AN EQUINE JUNKIE MOST OF HIS LIFE THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: wiggles44 on March 03, 2019, 10:56:02 AM
Chody was on probation when he did this

http://streamable.com/7wlui

walked out of that with a $500 fine and more probation added

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Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Fair is fair on March 03, 2019, 11:59:09 AM
Does bill holland still own deetzy? If so what happens to atlanta and holland?
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: mwins on March 03, 2019, 12:03:57 PM
Holland is no longer a part of the ownership group.
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Fair is fair on March 03, 2019, 01:12:35 PM
Holland is no longer a part of the ownership group.

So the published info listing holland as 25% owner of atlanta is wrong? Or he sell out due to the positive on deetzy?
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: whiptherabbit on March 03, 2019, 01:45:49 PM
If they think Sintra has any ffa potential this year, he will end up in Burkes barn (Burke has had some with Menary in years past) If they deem him as just an upper echelon type horse, he'll be bearded out.

If he had sritctly claimers etc they might throw the book at him. But he has yearlings, so the buyers want him in the biz
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: pvcancamp on March 03, 2019, 03:25:44 PM
If you are 'probation' for a cobalt positive, why on earth would you continue to use ?  Or belief in a new masking agent?   i just don't get it
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Parked on March 03, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
They keep pushing the envelope and eventually there is a missed calculation, the horse gets a little dehydrated or such and pop, a positive.. So lets see what supplement company made a mistake ?....  Hope for a long suspension but know it is a long shot.. 
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Brown jug on March 03, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
a perfect reason as why i will never buy a hes' watching yearling
i know some other sires are not 100% clean but that one was too much
and on top of this are the alcohol related charges
believe it or not the industry will survive without him
any horse he had a ownership position in gets minimum 4 months out
any horse he trained gets 2 months to clean their system out
menary gets a 12 month suspension minimum
menary not allowed to buy or train any yearlings from the 2019 sales

send a message
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Brown jug on March 03, 2019, 05:04:27 PM
as for jamieson that was a disgrace
he should have been taken off the horse immediately , taken off all remaining drives that night
fined $10k minimum and suspended for at least 14 race cards
this is a guy who has been involved all his life, owns and trains with his wife
if he does this to a horse at the track imagine what goes on at the farm
i know shit happens at all training centers but at the very least keep it there
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: pylon on March 03, 2019, 05:17:48 PM
I am going to have my lawyer dissect the AGCO Standardbred Rules of Racing the whole book 328 pages and I told him to get the outcome on the Menary, Ron Adams suspensions and find out how they were able to skirt around the penalties and were able to re-offend. He believes that more than likely the wording of the rules is as much as they insinuate penalties but when challenged are easily disposed of because they do not conform to constitutional rights because whoever wrote these laws do not understand them and how to word them so they uphold the rights of the guilty and the penalty sticks.
do you pay your lawyer a hourly rate or is he on retainer?
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Calhoun on March 03, 2019, 06:23:05 PM
I am going to have my lawyer dissect the AGCO Standardbred Rules of Racing the whole book 328 pages and I told him to get the outcome on the Menary, Ron Adams suspensions and find out how they were able to skirt around the penalties and were able to re-offend. He believes that more than likely the wording of the rules is as much as they insinuate penalties but when challenged are easily disposed of because they do not conform to constitutional rights because whoever wrote these laws do not understand them and how to word them so they uphold the rights of the guilty and the penalty sticks.
please keep us informed.

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Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: Calhoun on March 09, 2019, 08:17:15 AM
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Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: 791Gordy on March 09, 2019, 08:40:49 AM
Good to know he will probably get off.  I feel bad for all his owners who had no idea hes a drunk, cheating,  fuckhead.
The same ones who transferred to JJ's wife and then back to DM once he served his severe suspension. 
Title: Re: Dave Menary Cobalt Positive
Post by: 791Gordy on March 09, 2019, 09:06:29 AM
You're very right.  It's just a sad situation
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