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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Nameaintbrian on February 20, 2019, 09:48:39 PM
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A veteran horseplayer from back in the day told me that Stanley Dancer used to sell drugs at Liberty Bell Park and was addicted to coke and heroine. He dies of a coke overdose. How sad.
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The veteran horseplayer is lying to you,Stanley was NOT a drug user,YES,he was he drugged his horses,in fact,he was way ahead of his time in that regard,but he did not take drugs himself
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The veteran horseplayer is lying to you,Stanley was NOT a drug user,YES,he was he drugged his horses,in fact,he was way ahead of his time in that regard,but he did not take drugs himself
So he had the go-go juice well ahead of everyone else huh?
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Stanley pena?
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Stanley pena?
KantSeeYourOwnDick?
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Stanley was a cheat and a prick
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Stanley was a cheat and a prick
YOU NAILED IT JOE
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Stanley was a prick, a drunk(as were Haughton and most of those guys on the grand circuit) cheated on his wife (had a girlfriend who traveled with him) was a tough and insightful businessman (bought Illinois bred trotter from harry sprunger and turned him into a world champion. su mac lad). revolutionized harness driving. speed, speed, spped. would say " the only hole I want is the big one on the front". he did have a personality when he was in the right mood. I was warming up mistletoe shallee for the lady maude at Roosevelt and "had" to sit with him between trips.(I usually avoided him as much as possible because of his attitude). he was showing me his driving helmet and telling me how expensive the paint job was. he said "if I ever go down in a wreck, don't worry about me just make sure you get this helmet out of the way".
Stanley was not a drug addict or associated with drugs on a personal level in any way. furthermore, the horses never got "go" juice. Stanley and his owners had some of the finest bred animals in the industry. many times they laid over their competition. that whole grand circuit was like a fraternity. a handful of trainer/drivers along with the breeding farms had it all locked up.every fall, the best bred yearlings went to the same trainers and the following spring and summer the champions emerged. it remained this way until the birth of the meadowlands which took much of the thunder out of the grand circuit. it was the grand circuit every night in east Rutherford. the best horses and trainers and drivers competed there night in and out.
by all accounts, the term " mr. harness racing" in regard to Stanley dancer is not misused. he was the man and the face of the industry thay exploded in popularity in the late 50's and early 60's. yonkers and Roosevelt drew crowds of 20,000 plus on Fridays and Saturdays . somehow, that's all slipped away and we'll never see it again.
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If you're interested in visiting a one stop shop for viewing a great collection of cheats and less than savory stars, there's a place in Goshen NY called The Harness Racing Museum & Hall Of Fame. Does anyone really believe what we see today just started in the last 20 years??? Those guys did everything we see today, except they were smarter. Everyone made money and worked together. Pools were huge so what they did was easier to hide, people weren't running their mouths. Just because they have a statuette doesn't make them an angel.
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KantSeeYourOwnDick?
thanks
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Stanley was a prick, a drunk(as were Haughton and most of those guys on the grand circuit) cheated on his wife (had a girlfriend who traveled with him) was a tough and insightful businessman (bought Illinois bred trotter from harry sprunger and turned him into a world champion. su mac lad). revolutionized harness driving. speed, speed, spped. would say " the only hole I want is the big one on the front". he did have a personality when he was in the right mood. I was warming up mistletoe shallee for the lady maude at Roosevelt and "had" to sit with him between trips.(I usually avoided him as much as possible because of his attitude). he was showing me his driving helmet and telling me how expensive the paint job was. he said "if I ever go down in a wreck, don't worry about me just make sure you get this helmet out of the way".
Stanley was not a drug addict or associated with drugs on a personal level in any way. furthermore, the horses never got "go" juice. Stanley and his owners had some of the finest bred animals in the industry. many times they laid over their competition. that whole grand circuit was like a fraternity. a handful of trainer/drivers along with the breeding farms had it all locked up.every fall, the best bred yearlings went to the same trainers and the following spring and summer the champions emerged. it remained this way until the birth of the meadowlands which took much of the thunder out of the grand circuit. it was the grand circuit every night in east Rutherford. the best horses and trainers and drivers competed there night in and out.
by all accounts, the term " mr. harness racing" in regard to Stanley dancer is not misused. he was the man and the face of the industry thay exploded in popularity in the late 50's and early 60's. yonkers and Roosevelt drew crowds of 20,000 plus on Fridays and Saturdays . somehow, that's all slipped away and we'll never see it again.
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Great synopsis, Zoot. tmbz1
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These were the guys who started Harness Racing on its spiral down the porcelain bowl to its state we now have today. Their stiffing and holding back to cash a bet chased many more gamblers away than the load and go guys of today.
Should all be in the hall of Shame, not fame
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Corruption and race fixing has been a staple in harness racing since the farmers raced after church for bragging rights. What made harness racing popular was it's legalized gambling. It was the only choice many had to place a wager.
Today , it is literally one of 100 way's to make a bet.
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Corruption and race fixing has been a staple in harness racing since the farmers raced after church for bragging rights. What made harness racing popular was it's legalized gambling. It was the only choice many had to place a wager.
Today , it is literally one of 100 way's to make a bet.
also for some guys years ago it was a way to get even for a loss at the daytime thorobred races
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Corruption and race fixing has been a staple in harness racing since the farmers raced after church for bragging rights. What made harness racing popular was it's legalized gambling. It was the only choice many had to place a wager.
Today , it is literally one of 100 way's to make a bet.
Why harness racing is a best marginalized gambling today.....great simple synopsis
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Stanley had a biting personality and was really not a very nice fellow! Very selfish!
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Stanley tortured his son Ronnie. Ronnie didn't like the pressure of driving in races. im not sure if he was afraid or just didn't like the pressure of going for big money purses. in any event, he wasn't very good at it the owners didn't want him to drive their horses but Stanley insisted. it caused a lot of static and eventually Ronnie just quit the business and distance himself completely. he was a decent guy.
that whole operation was like a soap opera. Stanley was the king, Rachel the queen, with Ronnie the prince and shalee the princess. joe Weideman the loyal surf worked for Stanley for 25 years caring for the best in the barn including nevele pride and many more.(nevele pride was a rotten bastard and actually bit one of joe's fingers off) frankie Albertson and clint warrington ran around undermining each other in the eyes of the king trying to gain his favor. from the outside the farm in new Egypt looked like a kingdom.....but there was never a dull moment.
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NOT MANY SKILLETS IN THE SHED
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I remember sitting out the backstretch at Greenwood after one Grand Circuit night with Bill Wellwood, Glen Garnsey and a news paper reporter wanted to interview Stanley Dancer. Dancer was a real prick to the reporter and I remember saying to Wellwood and Garnsey that I thought he was being a prick to the reporter and Garnsey said that's just Stanley being Stanley. Though that was the only time I have to agree with those who say he was a prick he was one.
I gotta call Bullshit on this, Tim.
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I gotta call Bullshit on this, Tim.
NOT BULLSHIT WHEN YOU PEEKED IN DANCERS TRASHCAN OUTSIDE THE SHED AND 50 EMPTY BOXES OF EQUIPOISE WERE INSIDE....NEXT TO SHED FULL OF 2YR OLDS
TIM DONT EVEN KNOW THIS
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NOT BULLSHIT WHEN YOU PEEKED IN DANCERS TRASHCAN OUTSIDE THE SHED AND 50 EMPTY BOXES OF EQUIPOISE WERE INSIDE....NEXT TO SHED FULL OF 2YR OLDS
TIM DONT EVEN KNOW THIS
I'll ask Tim again as soon as he gets back from the Megan Markle baby shower.
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I'll ask Tim again as soon as he gets back from the Megan Markle baby shower.
ZOOT KNOWS
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ZOOT KNOWS
Much respect the Zoot. tmbz1
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Interesting read. http://www.mi-harness.net/publct/hb/lvnglgd.html
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Much respect the Zoot. tmbz1
He knows we all treated the 2yr olds with 'roids. They came from the farms jacked up. Thats how they sold "great looking" yearlings. And thats how we got them on the bit. Th guys I worked for did everything Dancer did. They were in fact, family.
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Stanley tortured his son Ronnie. Ronnie didn't like the pressure of driving in races. im not sure if he was afraid or just didn't like the pressure of going for big money purses. in any event, he wasn't very good at it the owners didn't want him to drive their horses but Stanley insisted. it caused a lot of static and eventually Ronnie just quit the business and distance himself completely. he was a decent guy.
that whole operation was like a soap opera. Stanley was the king, Rachel the queen, with Ronnie the prince and shalee the princess. joe Weideman the loyal surf worked for Stanley for 25 years caring for the best in the barn including nevele pride and many more.(nevele pride was a rotten bastard and actually bit one of joe's fingers off) frankie Albertson and clint warrington ran around undermining each other in the eyes of the king trying to gain his favor. from the outside the farm in new Egypt looked like a kingdom.....but there was never a dull moment.
way back when, when I thought I could be a little something in the business, I got the chance to be at the big M with a couple of cheap skins. one night in the paddock I was checking equipment on the horse I was paddocking and one of Dancers steeds was in the stall next to me. the groom actually had a bottle of wax and was waxing the wheel disks on dancers bike. I looked over at him and made some kind of comment like , boy that's taking it to the extreme, he said yeah that's what this asshole has us doing between races. now our equipment always looked clean when we went to the races, but for christ sake . don't know what he paid his grooms for paddocking, but the kid said that stan was a no good prick.......just sayin
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way back when, when I thought I could be a little something in the business, I got the chance to be at the big M with a couple of cheap skins. one night in the paddock I was checking equipment on the horse I was paddocking and one of Dancers steeds was in the stall next to me. the groom actually had a bottle of wax and was waxing the wheel disks on dancers bike. I looked over at him and made some kind of comment like , boy that's taking it to the extreme, he said yeah that's what this asshole has us doing between races. now our equipment always looked clean when we went to the races, but for christ sake . don't know what he paid his grooms for paddocking, but the kid said that stan was a no good prick.......just sayin
R FARRINGTON SHED ANOTHER SPIT AND POLISH OUTFIT...TOTAL JOKE
WAXED TRUNKS, BRASSO POLISHED HALTERS, PAINTED RAKES/BROOMS/FORKS
AWNING...PLANTS EVERYWHERE...PLAQ UES WITH BREEDING AND NAMES ALL OVER THE PLACE
HAD A BARN FULL OF WARM BREEZE NICKLE PRICKS WHEN I SAW THIS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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DANCER is a ADDICT.