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Title: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Exit 16W on December 23, 2018, 05:05:35 AM

Total Handle: $2,542,397   10 RACES


TOTAL HANDLE  $2,339,334  14 RACES


GOOD JOB TO OUR FRIENDS UP NORTH  tmbz1
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Bacchus on December 23, 2018, 07:45:22 AM
If that’s in Canadian dollars  it’s only equal to 1.9 million (roughly) American dollars so ...
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: trottingstud on December 23, 2018, 08:54:34 AM
mohawk also had a mandatory hi 5 payout last night which always boosts their handle.
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: MR.DALRAE on December 23, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
No one on here likes facts,,,
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Calhoun on December 23, 2018, 09:15:39 AM
And earlier today $350 Million was bet on one race in Japan.

if you don't bet, the pools don't matter.

If you bet and never win, they matter less.
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Atthetrack7 on December 23, 2018, 10:04:20 AM
mohawk also had a mandatory hi 5 payout last night which always boosts their handle.

And the Meadowlands had 4, yes 4 more races than that track up North.
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: trottingstud on December 23, 2018, 02:37:57 PM
wonder why fridays night comparison wasn't posted here. oh yeah it did not look as good in canada. meadowlands handles 2.5 million and mohawk handles 1.4 million and it is christmas week. meadowlands might not have the big name pacers and trotters but still the best place to bet cartel or no cartel.
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2018, 03:32:45 PM
So, with the 5% increase i the purses Jeffery has promised from the profits of sports betting, who will this affect the handle?
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: In front on December 23, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
The cartel has been disbanned, go ask Settlemoir
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: buffalo believer on December 23, 2018, 03:35:13 PM
Total Handle: $2,542,397   10 RACES


TOTAL HANDLE  $2,339,334  14 RACES


GOOD JOB TO OUR FRIENDS UP NORTH  tmbz1
Pointless comparison because of high 5 carryover. .  There is so much jealousy on her for Mr Gural.  He’s loaded and successful, just deal with it!
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 23, 2018, 03:45:24 PM
Pointless comparison because of high 5 carryover. .  There is so much jealousy on her for Mr Gural.  He’s loaded and successful, just deal with it!

Since it fits your narrative, go ahead and remove the 600k from the jackpot bet. If you do the math, mohawk still has a higher per race handle last night. They deserve credit.
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on December 24, 2018, 07:27:31 AM
And in all honesty they handle more American dollars than Canadian at most business including the track  so I'd tend to believe they show totals weather in Canadian money or us still day in day out higher totals with fewer races than medowlands and lots of sub quality horses because of all his rules on entries
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on December 24, 2018, 07:30:40 AM
The other night 10favors win the fields and competition was crap even with a few looking lame they still won with three legs
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: In front on December 24, 2018, 07:39:04 AM
No narrative...… Just facts.....

Your correct they do deserve credit & nightly they have very good Pick 5 & Pick 4 pools.

But the Canaidan dollar vs the US dollar is not the same, so Saturday night with the 600k taken out the average per race in US dollars is 143,737 or (188,137 including H5) per race for Mohawk & 167,095 per race for the Meadowlands, so on Saturday night Mohawk definitely out handled the Meadowlands per race average.


Friday night in US dollars per race Mohawk about 104k vs Meadowlands about 178k.

Today the Canadian dollar is worth about .74 cents vs the US dollar.

The Looney should be worth .50 on the dollar
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Jctoronto on December 24, 2018, 01:27:41 PM
Clearly hi5 carryover the difference..
apples oranges always transparent
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Bobbo on December 24, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
If that’s in Canadian dollars  it’s only equal to 1.9 million (roughly) American dollars so ...

US and Canadian money is co-mingled in the pools of both Med and Moh.   ie you bet Yankee $ at Mohawk you get back Yankee $ if you win.   You be Cdn $ at Med you get back Cdn $.   So unless you know the actual breakdown of Cdn $ vs Yankees $ bet at each track,  the argument is irrelevant
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: buffalo believer on December 25, 2018, 12:21:44 AM
Since it fits your narrative, go ahead and remove the 600k from the jackpot bet. If you do the math, mohawk still has a higher per race handle last night. They deserve credit.
They deserve credit for putting in a good card yes, but why the comparison to the Big M handle?  Who cares who handled more?  They both had great handles that night, end of story.  There is not a harness track in North America that comes even close to the big m handle on a nightly basis but jealous people on this forum feel the need to rip their handle every flipping day.  They quadruple the handle of almost every harness track out there. 
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: spaheaven on December 25, 2018, 05:59:54 AM
Over $1 million for that carryover...Why is everyone so retarded on here, seriously?
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: cr dawg on December 25, 2018, 10:39:14 AM
The other night 10favors win the fields and competition was crap even with a few looking lame they still won with three legs

The inside money is very strong right now and whatever they are getting thru the tests is powerful! Someone has been wagering on horses with no chance early, and then cancelling their bets with 0 minutes to post to throw punters off. Always check the pic 3 payoffs, someone seems to know who the winner is in advance!

Cheers!
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on December 25, 2018, 06:13:30 PM
That's true lots of moving in odds the shifts back to one last minutes see  that can be said for both tracks.i wish I had ear in the barn to know which to use a not to use for a no effort nite it would save me lots of money
Title: Re: MOHACK OUTHANDLES MEDS
Post by: Bacchus on December 25, 2018, 08:43:40 PM

US and Canadian money is co-mingled in the pools of both Med and Moh.   ie you bet Yankee $ at Mohawk you get back Yankee $ if you win.   You be Cdn $ at Med you get back Cdn $.   So unless you know the actual breakdown of Cdn $ vs Yankees $ bet at each track,  the argument is irrelevant
Generally I agree that the money is comingled - however I believe the displayed handle total reflects a conversion from the US dollar figures to Canadian dollar For Canadian tracks and vice versa for US tracks and that being said the above analysis would remain to be correct.
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