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Title: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Larrylou32 on October 03, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Who is your favorite in this category?
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: shuffledagain on October 03, 2018, 07:57:51 PM
Not that he fell hard.  More like disappeared.  Blair Burgess
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: whiptherabbit on October 03, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
Nat Varty
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Calhoun on October 03, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Colin johnson
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 03, 2018, 08:23:10 PM
Mark Fransen.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Germy dDay on October 03, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
ERIC LEDFRAUD
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Joe Dirt on October 03, 2018, 08:26:51 PM
FRED ABOID
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 03, 2018, 08:31:47 PM
Joe Anderson
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Refusedtopace on October 03, 2018, 08:46:43 PM
PJ Farley
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 03, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
RICHARD CHANSKY
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: caddy on October 03, 2018, 09:42:14 PM
Trainers who where on top and fell hard

if you're too stupid to even double check your headlines posts --- do us all a favor and stay on the sidelines. 
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: PIGLAND on October 03, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Trainers who where on top and fell hard

if you're too stupid to even double check your headlines posts --- do us all a favor and stay on the sidelines.
you dumb democrate
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: McGIBBS on October 03, 2018, 09:50:40 PM
JEFF LEPOFF
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Post by: Bred 4 Speed on October 03, 2018, 11:36:50 PM
Daryl Bier
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 04, 2018, 08:14:43 AM
So far everyone mentioned were chemical trainers, so maybe withdrawal would be more like it.

even Burgess?, cmon
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Lance on October 04, 2018, 10:20:18 AM
I read the title wrong.  I though it said trainers who likes to be on top and get hard.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: bigwrench on October 04, 2018, 10:43:27 AM
Trainers who where on top and fell hard

if you're too stupid to even double check your headlines posts --- do us all a favor and stay on the sidelines.
fuckin micro mannagers
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Jctoronto on October 04, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
so many crooks..so little time.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 04, 2018, 01:29:36 PM
DAVVID TINGLEY
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 04, 2018, 01:33:56 PM
Brian Mcnamee ngc3  Red Sox could use him against the Yankee juggernaut
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: NJ The best on October 04, 2018, 01:43:15 PM
Blair with his sweet feed and oats program is why hes yesterdays news. Red -glo is not high test Blair.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 04, 2018, 01:59:14 PM
Greg Peck
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: toothman on October 04, 2018, 04:46:17 PM
Mike Caruselle
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Post by: pylon on October 04, 2018, 05:34:07 PM
if we can include beards, then Millici and Sholty
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Post by: comeonman on October 04, 2018, 07:51:58 PM
Mike Carasuel sadly passed away About 6 months ago. Good guy RIP mike
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Post by: HornbyDuke on October 04, 2018, 08:02:06 PM
What was pj fraleys relationship with kesmodel. Didn't he take over for kesmodel at one point?
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: hammer0419 on October 05, 2018, 12:26:15 AM
PJ WORKED FOR BAMOND,HAD SOME SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS. WHICH LEAD HIM TO SPEND MONEY THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO HIM.

BUT HE GOT CLEAN AND SOBER AND HAS BEEN WITH TOSCANO FOR AWHILE.
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Post by: hoosierboy on October 05, 2018, 12:49:26 AM
Jerry Silverman
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: hammer0419 on October 05, 2018, 01:37:30 AM
HB LOL JERRY'S BEEN RETIRED FOR LIKE 5 YEARS. LIVES YEAR ROUND IN FLA.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: oh canada on October 05, 2018, 06:28:08 AM
In my area Harold Stead had a big outfit and vanished almost overnight and our king of the claimers for a few years Fred Hoffman fell off the face of the earth in a few years
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: ToughTony on October 05, 2018, 10:14:52 AM
In my area Harold Stead had a big outfit and vanished almost overnight and our king of the claimers for a few years Fred Hoffman fell off the face of the earth in a few years

Freddie the Hog just retired one day.  He sure went though the claimers.  And yea Stead, I think he was even a good driver in his day??
  McMaster went from a huge operation to nothing pretty quick, Nat Varty, James McCall,  Bill Robinson went from the best in the business to just a few homebreds,
 Monte Gelrod.....
Joe Stutzman, before he retired wasn't near what he was......but still had the first dollar he ever made.
Kevin Davidson used to have a decent size operation, now just races a few.  Dave Tingley before he went off his rocker...Harry Poulton, after Matts Scooter and On the Road again never had a whole lots.
It's a tough game.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 05, 2018, 10:43:55 AM
Freddie the Hog just retired one day.  He sure went though the claimers.  And yea Stead, I think he was even a good driver in his day??
  McMaster went from a huge operation to nothing pretty quick, Nat Varty, James McCall,  Bill Robinson went from the best in the business to just a few homebreds,
 Monte Gelrod.....
Joe Stutzman, before he retired wasn't near what he was......but still had the first dollar he ever made.
Kevin Davidson used to have a decent size operation, now just races a few.  Dave Tingley before he went off his rocker...Harry Poulton, after Matts Scooter and On the Road again never had a whole lots.
It's a tough game.

Harold was a top 10 driver in the 70,s and 80,s....and when the claiming game dried up a little,  Fred got out of the business and I think he got into carpentry, believe it or not...........Joe runs a training centre here in Ontario, the Peaceful Way ownership turned Tingley into an emotional mess and yes went off his rocker
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: SoulAssassin on October 05, 2018, 02:45:06 PM
ken rucker .... ken seeber .... carl conte .... erv miller .... bruce nickells ....mark kesmodel ....
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 05, 2018, 03:47:21 PM
Doug Larsen.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Jctoronto on October 05, 2018, 06:46:14 PM
then obviously Brent was a bleeder.
Wonder if a heapin helpin of lasix wouldnt of gotten back in style
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 05, 2018, 06:48:25 PM
You mentioned the 70's and 80's and a driver who held his own was Brent Davies. Brent loved his strange pussy and then one drunken night and his wife who had enough of his fucking around went down on him and bit the end of his dick off and then after that Davies disappeared.
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Iceman, 2 guys who could get one off the wings, back in the70,&80,s were reg gassien and  brent
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Mazola on October 05, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Davies more like 60's, 70's
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: marge bandit on October 05, 2018, 11:33:13 PM
Daryl Bier

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Nubby on October 08, 2018, 10:16:51 AM
Mark Capone
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Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 08, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
Sterling Buch.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: cr dawg on October 08, 2018, 12:22:29 PM
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Iceman, 2 guys who could get one off the wings, back in the70,&80,s were reg gassien and  brent

Reg is at Mohawk tonight!
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Frank the Zipper on October 08, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Anyone know the story on Ron Feagan's demise?
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 08, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
HB LOL JERRY'S BEEN RETIRED FOR LIKE 5 YEARS. LIVES YEAR ROUND IN FLA.

Still owes me 20k,,, seen him twice in fla avoided me like the plague
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Fatboy on October 08, 2018, 02:10:25 PM
Still owes me 20k,,, seen him twice in fla avoided me like the plague

AND HE OWES ME 50
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 08, 2018, 03:00:54 PM
Money and the wrong people. Though he was too young at the time Anthony Montini knows from words passed down. Back in the late 60's and through the 70's his old man had a hold over many of the drivers and trainers on the OJC as it was known. He also had politics and the law in his back pocket.
with all due respect, this above is mumbo jumbo............ Feagan suffered from depression and ended up hanging himself
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 08, 2018, 05:03:18 PM
That's where the story changed, the autopsy claimed hanging but had no answers for the bruising on the other parts of Ron's body. Draw your own conclusions Feagan was a star and would have been for a long time, why would he be depressed other than he knew he owed the wrong people. And his brother Gary believed he was in big trouble.
I don't want to get into a protracted back and forth here, but depression can affect anyone , anytime...be they stars, rich, well known or anonymous nobodies.....and once again he hung himself....your conspiracy theories notwithstanding
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 08, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
Anyone know the story on Ron Feagan's demise?
 Gotta believe he's going to the top tonight again.
 
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Boxed In on October 08, 2018, 08:00:01 PM
mike carusel was an accused FUCKING CHILD MOLESTOR..GLAD HES DEAD

AND HE  WASNT A GOOD TRAINER..GLORIFIE D GROOM...OH WAIT ..HE NEVER JOGGED OR TRAINED ANY HORSES HIMSELF LMAOOO
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: pylon on October 08, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
As I've said before the name Pylon suits you numb nuts. I never said it wasn't hanging because sure enough they found him hanging. He was put there and the evidence they had suspected foul play but they couldn't make a rock solid case, end of story.
yes, resort to name calling when you are called out for posts that are pure speculation at best and out and out BS at worst............ .I offer an alternative to your views and you counter with insults....a winning move..lol...
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Mazola on October 08, 2018, 08:13:15 PM
That's where the story changed, the autopsy claimed hanging but had no answers for the bruising on the other parts of Ron's body. Draw your own conclusions Feagan was a star and would have been for a long time, why would he be depressed other than he knew he owed the wrong people. And his brother Gary believed he was in big trouble.

I heard he was an alcoholic and was having a hard time with trying to quit. That can cause depression.
Title: Re: Trainers who were on top and fell hard
Post by: Fatboy on October 08, 2018, 08:25:07 PM
TRAINER GETS ON TOP AND FALLS SHE MUST BE FAT
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